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Socialize / Re: Those Online Awkward Moments...
« on: July 18, 2012, 05:32:05 AM »
Accidently typing facebook messages as status updates is pretty awkward haha
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Yeah, narrow it down.
Although you can try 3 if you want, if you've been previously conditioned well & have been active even though you took time off
You've obviously got a good starting level, maybe you should stop over anylising and go train.
You'd probably be better off just combine the extra exercises from B into A and doing it 3x a week
For the most part, this looks good. It's at least a jumping off point.
Is this really a problem for you guys on a regular basis? If so, would someone be so kind as to explain to me how you "accidentally" gain too much muscle? This is a problem that I'd love to have as I've been training for years for maximal strength, and hypertrophy work takes a ton of my time with very little return on gains.
5'8" and #165 would be fine.


I think he's asking if you could do it while keeping your legs almost perpendicular to the ground the entire time. I've seen it done on rings but I don't recall seeing it on a bar.
here's a link to the video. Slow one is at the end. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hqx98s60PY

in that sense I do think it's constructive to train things you don't need, because to me improving in any areais constructive 
I've tried actively developing mental parkour skills all the time whilst training, but have found that it doesn't become constructive when I do it too much. Also, in the gym new challenges are presented all the time, I can name examples if you wish.
Because of that, I see the gym as the real environment because it allows me to work towards my goal, whereas you don't because it doesn't involve finding that obstacle that is harder.
BryanGThe point at which Parkour-like practical training methods stop developing strength is the point at which developing strength stops being practical. Practical training methods give you what you need, nothing more, nothing less. You don't need any more than what you need for practical purposes.
Your argument makes the same fundamental mistake that I've pointed out numerous times in this thread alone, namely that it considers only physical strength. Yes, specialized strength training develops physical strength faster, but we need other skills besides physical strength and specialized training makes developing those other skills harder. The harm specialized training does to the development of those other skills outweighs the benefit to physical development, because each of those other skills are just as important as physical strength, if not more so. The most efficient way to develop all the skills you need is to practice them all at the same time and develop them together.
This has also been covered earlier. Impact is not compulsory in Parkour. There are many obstacles and many ways of moving past them which do not require impact, and if you're new to Parkour then obviously you should start with what you can handle rather than what you can't. Wriggling, walking, crawling, balancing, climbing. Parkour can be scaled to suit anyone's starting condition.
Yes, you can train for every situation. You can't become perfect at dealing with every situation, but you can improve your ability to deal with every situation. You do so by developing your most fundamental abilities, that are the building blocks of all complex tasks. Positive attitudes, relaxation, concentration, strength, speed, balance, self-control, self-determination, to name just a few of the abilities that practical training methods like Parkour help you develop. Adaptation, perception of surroundings and learning to make mistakes safely, three that specialized strength training hinders your development of.
The only goals that specialized strength training is more effective at achieving are those goals that are purely physical in nature, such as doing a big jump that you've seen in a video. If you want to find your own things, discover and take your own path (which is the stated goal of Parkour) then you need far more than just physical development. It is up to the individual to decide whether they want to progress along their own path or to just copy others, but all I'm doing here is explaining the purpose of Parkour and why Parkour's method is the best method of working towards that purpose. If you don't share that purpose then of course, there is no reason to practice Parkour.
It causes an imbalance because it develops some skills more than is necessary (physical strength), develops some other skills not at all (the ability to judge the real environment), and actively makes it harder to develop some skills (the ability to adapt). Imbalances are bad because practical tasks, i.e. the only time you need these skills, require a balance of strengths in many skills.
), then the post after that has to be 2 pushups, and then 3, and so on? could get interesting later on!
Why do you think that you wouldn't have been able to use Parkour to strengthen your back, or your knee? Parkour's methods have been making backs and knees stronger for many millions of years, why wouldn't it work for you?
Not just an imbalance in Parkour, but an imbalance in your ability to deal with all the challenges life presents. The proof comes when you become aware of an obstacle in your life where you realize that you need skills you haven't developed.
That could be a single situation, like in an emergency, or it could be a long-term trend where after a period of time you realize you've been lacking the one key element that would have made everything you've just done far easier. It is possible to live with a modern comfort lifestyle without ever noticing this kind of obstacle that proves the need for balanced development, but I think it is almost impossible not to notice these kids of challenges if you are actively trying to expend your possibilities in all directions. If you are doing this, then I think sooner or later you'll encounter proof of the ideas I'm sharing here.
For now, if you're not convinced by Parkour's method, it doesn't matter. It only becomes important if you encounter a problem with your existing way.
I realized after spending some time catching up on this thread, we're missing out on a great opportunistic venture to benefit everyone. I mean, doing a 5' precision is cool and all, but it would be so much better with a #150 sandbag on your shoulders.
That's why I present the option of PKB, or "Parkour for Barbarians."
It's essentially a mixture of strongman competitions, and parkour. It's more useful in daily life than regular parkour, as in any emergency/rescue situation, running through the ghetto while carrying a stolen subwoofer box, escaping kids on scooters while carrying your golf bag, etc. Training could include "clean and pressing a middle-aged lady in front of Kroger's," or "speed vaulting with a bum over your shoulder." I don't think that the farmer's walk should change at all, except that it shall be known as the "farmer's sprint."
Plus, we wouldn't have to to exclude acrobatics. I mean, I give credit to anyone who's able to front flip while holding a cheerleader under each arm.
PKB...practice at your won risk.