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Socialize / Re: Those Online Awkward Moments...
« on: July 18, 2012, 05:32:05 AM »
Accidently typing facebook messages as status updates is pretty awkward haha

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Yeah, narrow it down.

Although you can try 3 if you want, if you've been previously conditioned well & have been active even though you took time off

Yeah that sounds good, I'll try three and if it's too much volume then I'll narrow it down.

You've obviously got a good starting level, maybe you should stop over anylising and go train.

Haha that's brilliant. That said, go say that to the wrong person and they may start training 15ft drops :P

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You'd probably be better off just combine the extra exercises from B into A and doing it 3x a week

I may be mistaken, but wouldn't that be 3 diffeent push and 3 different pull exercises? I just thought that 2 push/pull would be optimum. I could also narrow down my goals if that's more beneficial?

Also, forgot to add pistol squat work in there

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For the most part, this looks good.  It's at least a jumping off point.

Is this really a problem for you guys on a regular basis?  If so, would someone be so kind as to explain to me how you "accidentally" gain too much muscle?  This is a problem that I'd love to have as I've been training for years for maximal strength, and hypertrophy work takes a ton of my time with very little return on gains.

5'8" and #165 would be fine.

Ok thanks, I'll start it as of tomorrow with a training log :)

The reason I asked was because there's a guy I know from where I live (Norwich), Hadyn Wiseman, who was training strength a lot, and had to purposely lose muscle to remain flexible enough for what he does (If you haven't heard of the name already, he does tricking) So in my view it is possible to gain too much muscle, but I guess it depends on the type of training.

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Hi everyone, I've been off training for a year and have decided to start seriously again, so was wondering if anyone could help me out with a good training program.

My Goals Are;

Pulling – One arm pullup, front lever (Can currently do around 15 pullups, as well as several variations involving much decreased leverage. For the front lever, I can currently hold an advanced tuck for about 10 seconds)
Pushing – Straddle planche pushup (Can currently just about do a strict form one arm pushup (If that’s relevant), and can hold the tuck planche for only about 5 seconds with good form)
Legs – No access to heavy weights, so general goal of increasing strength through pistol squats holding as much weight as possible.
Other – 5 Slow muscle ups in one set (Can currently do 1 repetition)
Weight – Gain 15 lbs in weight whilst remaining at around 10% bodyfat (Currently at 150ish pounds)

Other than that, my goal is to make a sampler video that will come out hopefully during Winter.

An idea I had could be

Workout A
•   Warm-up
•   60s Front lever
•   60s Planche
•   One arm pushup (Building up repetitions)
•   Uneven pull-ups with a towel
•   Cool-down

Workout B
•   Warm-up
•   60s Front Lever
•   60s Planche
•   Slow muscle ups (Building up repetitions)
•   Cool-down

Would this be a good way to begin? Keep in mind that I’ve been off training for about a year (In other words, should I start off with something less intense to get my body used to hard training again?) Also, I’m a drummer and practice regularly, so if I were to begin training planche, front lever etc, would my tendons be prone to overuse?

Finally, I would like to ask if 165 lbs for 5 foot 8 inches is a healthy weight to aim for? Ideally I’d like to have a good amount of muscle, but not so much as to prevent me from practicing parkour. Any advice, or if a lower/higher weight would be more beneficial, would be very much appreciated  :)

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In my opinion, the blame goes to ignorance, not just from the people who hate parkour, but from the traceurs that don't give parkour a good name. In Norwich (UK) we've got a really good reputation. If people ask us to leave, they'll do it nicely, and we'll move on straight away. But in other places I've trained at, for example Cambridge, people are much less accepting of it.

Now, is this because the general public in Cambrige is more ignorant, or because parkour is practiced in a more negative manner? I think the latter.

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Diet / GOMAD and Testosterone; Negative Effects?
« on: February 18, 2012, 05:04:12 AM »
I'm thinking about homeostasis here. Cow's milk has a lot of testosterone in it right? Which is all well and good for building muscle, but I'm worried that my body is trying to adapt by producing less of it in turn. Which means my testosterone count and thus libido will be much lower.

I've already got quite a low libido naturally, I'm concerned that by continuing GOMAD it's just going to screw it up entirely. Any thoughts on if this is true or not?

Thanks for your time :)

http://veganbodybuilding.userboard.net/t652-cows-milk-decreases-testosterone is what I was looking at.

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I haven't read through much of the thread, but what I'd like to say is that competition can be relevant, of course it can be. I just feel that people are using definitions too much, surely parkour is your own way of training? Isn't that the point?

I think competition is good because it pushes you to improve. That said, it can lead to comparing your path with that of others which isn't ideal, and also can be done in dangerous situations which can cause serious injury. It's up to you whether you agree with competition or not.

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General Fitness / Re: Motivation for Exercise
« on: February 15, 2012, 02:17:57 AM »
I'd disagree with this. I'd say that enjoyment is a more motivating factor than goals to start out with. If you have a goal but hate working towards it, are you really going to be that motivated for it?

That said, goals are extremely useful and provide motivation to an extent.

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General Fitness / Re: Critique on Muscle Up Form
« on: February 11, 2012, 09:30:27 AM »
Also, this guy seems to have pretty much nailed it http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=odi9R0xcFzo

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General Fitness / Re: Critique on Muscle Up Form
« on: February 11, 2012, 09:27:53 AM »
I think he's asking if you could do it while keeping your legs almost perpendicular to the ground the entire time. I've seen it done on rings but I don't recall seeing it on a bar.

Yeah, this basically. I think it's possible on a bar. I mean I can do it nice and slow in a swimming pool whilst grabbing onto the side with my whole body straight, I'm assuming it's possible if the physics can work in that sense. Would a long time to build up to I can imagine though.

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General Fitness / Re: Critique on Muscle Up Form
« on: February 07, 2012, 09:28:57 AM »
Yeah I probably could have. I'm happy with what I've been doing though. Sure I could be much stronger, but I've enjoyed the past three years and wouldn't change them if I'm honest.

Glad the form is good. Just wondering, how feasible is a slow muscle up without the movement to L-sit in the transition phase? Is it even possible aha?

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General Fitness / Critique on Muscle Up Form
« on: February 01, 2012, 07:38:54 AM »
Hey guys, haven't posted in a while. Have been working on muscle ups after taking a few months out, have now surpassed my previous RM, and got what I believe to be a slow bar muscle up as well.

I'm just looking for some advice on how to improve my form. Keep in mind that the only bar I know of that I can use is too low to stop at the bottom for a complete dead hang.

Thanks for any help :) here's a link to the video. Slow one is at the end. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hqx98s60PY

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Parkour And Freerunning / Re: The Parkour training method
« on: August 23, 2011, 03:47:15 PM »
Ok thanks for the response Dave. I'm going to write back to you in a constructive way, I'm quite enjoying this discussion :)

I can see where you're coming from in terms of the judging distance part. But I see the process as "Jump x metres" followed by "find a harder precision; jump x+1 metres" in that case, you need to first start with small jumps and gradually build up. To a certain point, parkour on it's own does this perfectly. But once you have reached a plateau and cannot jump any further, despite being ready mentally, what do you do? This is where I believe strength training plays it's part.

Ah, I see what you mean by "needing" to be able to do something. We supposedly train to overcome obstacles we think we need to overcome. Because of personal belief and philosophy, I don't believe anything is truly "needed" so I use "want" instead ;) in that sense I do think it's constructive to train things you don't need, because to me improving in any areais constructive :)

I believe that it doesn't help you develop all the mental skills you need. That's why I train parkour alongside it. I don't believe there is an imbalance though, at least I don't feel there is. In fact most of the time it is my mind that holds me back.

Also, I don't believe that weightlifting actively hinders the mental skills developed in parkour. If that was the case, wouldn't anything that isn't parkour actively hinder my progress? The way I see it, I train parkour whilst developing these skills, "recover" if that makes sense, and then continue to devlop them when I am rested :) I've tried actively developing mental parkour skills all the time whilst training, but have found that it doesn't become constructive when I do it too much. Also, in the gym new challenges are presented all the time, I can name examples if you wish.

I don't see it as wasted effort, simply because it's not a decrease in mental ability, but an increase in physical ability. Mental skills will be weaker than physical skills when strength training, but this way the body does not limit the mind when it wants to improve.

In terms of lifting wiehgts; we see the process of improvement itself differently to one another. You see it as "Do something, find something harder, repeat" whereas I see it as "Do something, set a goal for something higher, work towards achieving that goal, repeat". Unless I'm mistaken of course, that's just how I view your reasoning ;) Because of that, I see the gym as the real environment because it allows me to work towards my goal, whereas you don't because it doesn't involve finding that obstacle that is harder.

Thanks for clearing up what a practical task is. That's why I didn't understand it, because I don't see the true need for anything in life. It's just my personal view on things, I can expand if you want ;)

Would like to keep this discussion constructive, I'm willing to learn from you as I'm sure you are from me ;)

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Parkour And Freerunning / Re: The Parkour training method
« on: August 23, 2011, 06:25:58 AM »
BryanGThe point at which Parkour-like practical training methods stop developing strength is the point at which developing strength stops being practical. Practical training methods give you what you need, nothing more, nothing less. You don't need any more than what you need for practical purposes.

Your argument makes the same fundamental mistake that I've pointed out numerous times in this thread alone, namely that it considers only physical strength. Yes, specialized strength training develops physical strength faster, but we need other skills besides physical strength and specialized training makes developing those other skills harder. The harm specialized training does to the development of those other skills outweighs the benefit to physical development, because each of those other skills are just as important as physical strength, if not more so. The most efficient way to develop all the skills you need is to practice them all at the same time and develop them together.

When does developing strength stop becoming practical? And I don't "need" to train parkour, that doesn't stop me from doing it though.

The reason we are all making this same mistake is that we automatically assume that "training" means physically. So yeah, I agree with you on that part, training needs to be mental and physical at the same time. But strength training develops mental skills, as I've pointed out before.

This has also been covered earlier. Impact is not compulsory in Parkour. There are many obstacles and many ways of moving past them which do not require impact, and if you're new to Parkour then obviously you should start with what you can handle rather than what you can't. Wriggling, walking, crawling, balancing, climbing. Parkour can be scaled to suit anyone's starting condition.

It is not compulsory, but neither is any obstacle. What if the obstacle you wish to overcome requires impact? This is the case with pretty much every traceur that practices, and these obstacles are only safe to overcome in the long run with some strength built up. If no-one trained strength, most of us would have problems by now. There are genetic exceptions though, but for the most part it is the solution. Strength training allows you to handle higher impact obstacles.

And no you won't have an imbalance in favour of physical ability because of this. My mind is ready to take that 6 foot drop, but my body is not. Simple.

Yes, you can train for every situation. You can't become perfect at dealing with every situation, but you can improve your ability to deal with every situation. You do so by developing your most fundamental abilities, that are the building blocks of all complex tasks. Positive attitudes, relaxation, concentration, strength, speed, balance, self-control, self-determination, to name just a few of the abilities that practical training methods like Parkour help you develop. Adaptation, perception of surroundings and learning to make mistakes safely, three that specialized strength training hinders your development of.

The only goals that specialized strength training is more effective at achieving are those goals that are purely physical in nature, such as doing a big jump that you've seen in a video. If you want to find your own things, discover and take your own path (which is the stated goal of Parkour) then you need far more than just physical development. It is up to the individual to decide whether they want to progress along their own path or to just copy others, but all I'm doing here is explaining the purpose of Parkour and why Parkour's method is the best method of working towards that purpose. If you don't share that purpose then of course, there is no reason to practice Parkour.

It is impossible because there are an infinite number of different situations. Why would you train to be able to overcome a problem that does not exist in the real, day to day world? Positive attitudes, relaxation, concentration, strength, speed, balance, self-control, self-determination, and many more are also developed by strength training. I don't just strength train, I practice parkour as well, and so I still develop those three skills alongside it. My approach trains everything you mentioned, why is it wrong?

It causes an imbalance because it develops some skills more than is necessary (physical strength), develops some other skills not at all (the ability to judge the real environment), and actively makes it harder to develop some skills (the ability to adapt). Imbalances are bad because practical tasks, i.e. the only time you need these skills, require a balance of strengths in many skills.

The gym is the real environment, why wouldn't it be? Because I am stronger, and have developed the mental stength the gym brings, I am better at adapting to new challenges, because I have gained experience in doing it before.

Dave, in terms of parkour, what is a practical task?

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100K Threads / Re: 100,000 Push Ups part 2
« on: August 23, 2011, 12:28:01 AM »
How about the first person does 1 pushup (Me :P), then the post after that has to be 2 pushups, and then 3, and so on? could get interesting later on!

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Socialize / Re: What Are You Listening To?
« on: August 22, 2011, 03:00:55 PM »
Recently gotten into drum and bass (Neurofunk);

Maztek - Tantrax
Xilent - Outer Inside
Computerartist - Orbit
Ovey - Crushed

They are four of my favourite tracks at the moment :)

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Parkour And Freerunning / Re: The Parkour training method
« on: August 22, 2011, 07:41:21 AM »
Why do you think that you wouldn't have been able to use Parkour to strengthen your back, or your knee? Parkour's methods have been making backs and knees stronger for many millions of years, why wouldn't it work for you?

Parkour will help you to strengthen your back and knees, but only to a point. Strength training does it much better. Adding to this, pylometric movements are often damaging to the joint if the body isn't prepared, ie strong enough. Yes, you can in theory start really, really small in parkour and really, really slowly build up, but what happened to efficiency?

Adding to this, we didn't encounter back and knee problems millions of years ago, because we were all moving about from a very young age. What if the guy that posted was sedentary for most of his life? His leg and back muscles wouldn't be strong enough to cope with the impact parkour brings if he did it straight away, and so strength training is the ideal way for him to push past this obstacle.

Not just an imbalance in Parkour, but an imbalance in your ability to deal with all the challenges life presents. The proof comes when you become aware of an obstacle in your life where you realize that you need skills you haven't developed.

That could be a single situation, like in an emergency, or it could be a long-term trend where after a period of time you realize you've been lacking the one key element that would have made everything you've just done far easier. It is possible to live with a modern comfort lifestyle without ever noticing this kind of obstacle that proves the need for balanced development, but I think it is almost impossible not to notice these kids of challenges if you are actively trying to expend your possibilities in all directions. If you are doing this, then I think sooner or later you'll encounter proof of the ideas I'm sharing here.

For now, if you're not convinced by Parkour's method, it doesn't matter. It only becomes important if you encounter a problem with your existing way.

If it causes an imbalance, that's not a bad thing. You can't train for absolutely every situation, because you don't have the capacity to do so. You have to choose the obstacles you wish to overcome, and then set about on achieving this. For most, strength training leads them to their goals a lot quicker than simply practicing parkour. Even if I was wrong, even if you could prepare for every single obstacle out there, you'd still need to do it efficiently because otherwise you simply wouldn't have the time, and thus strength training is again the best option.

Why does it cause an imbalance is the main quesion I want to ask? You improve physical capabilities with a rounded strength training program, and thus can apply yourself to obstacles better. Mentally, you gain focus, concentration and the drive to always go for the next level, again allowing yourself better application.

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Parkour And Freerunning / Re: The Parkour training method
« on: August 16, 2011, 04:14:44 PM »
I don't see what the difference between parkour and and other forms of physical activity if they are both done with the same mindset.

The aim of parkour is to move past obstacles, right? Well, why can't the obstacle I want to "move past" be that 2x bodyweight squat? Why does it have to be something found outside? From what I've read, people are forgetting that "overcoming an obstacle" can be applied to much more than simply moving about.

Just to clarify, DaveS mentioned a good point in another thread a while back. Physical strength and performance can never be a long term goal, because the body will eventually deteriorate regardless of its condition. So if you;re aiming for long term involvement in this discipline, mental development should take priority over physical development. Both are important, but the former is more so than the latter.

"The parkour training method" refers to an overall approach to training, I assume? In which case, I would recommend a training routine geared towards both mental and physical development. Physically, we do not wish to damage our bodies, and wish to improve our capabilities. The most efficient way of doing this is strength training, and so if you ignore the other aspects of parkour, it is the best method.

Mentally, we follow the same goals. We do no wish to damage our minds (ie preconditioned thought, easy lifestyes etc.) and wish to improve our capabilities. In order to do this, we must go out of our way to find challenges that are hard simply for the sake of being hard, and also ones that require much though before being carried out. Anything you get put off doing is a good method of training in this case.

Because of what I mentioned before, we should include both in our training, but because mental development is more important than physical development, we would choose the latter form of training over the former.

I guess combining the two would be better, however. In other words, strength training in chalenging situations. In my case, I did training outside in the pitch black in Winter, where I had to choose between my hands going numb, and taking my jumper off to put on the snow covered ground to stop them from doing so. For the lower body, I have yet to find a solution, due to the need of added resistance to see effective strength gains.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this, or any suggestions on training the lower body in both ways at the same time?

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Parkour And Freerunning / Re: beginner conditioning
« on: August 08, 2011, 01:40:20 PM »
I realized after spending some time catching up on this thread, we're missing out on a great opportunistic venture to benefit everyone.  I mean, doing a 5' precision is cool and all, but it would be so much better with a #150 sandbag on your shoulders.

That's why I present the option of PKB, or "Parkour for Barbarians."

It's essentially a mixture of strongman competitions, and parkour.  It's more useful in daily life than regular parkour, as in any emergency/rescue situation, running through the ghetto while carrying a stolen subwoofer box, escaping kids on scooters while carrying your golf bag, etc.  Training could include "clean and pressing a middle-aged lady in front of Kroger's," or "speed vaulting with a bum over your shoulder."  I don't think that the farmer's walk should change at all, except that it shall be known as the "farmer's sprint." 

Plus, we wouldn't have to to exclude acrobatics.  I mean, I give credit to anyone who's able to front flip while holding a cheerleader under each arm.

PKB...practice at your won risk. :-Sarcasm

That's an amazing idea,, in fact I'm going to try it now. Gonna do some 15 foot drop repeats, but with a friend on my back just to make it more interesting. It'll strengthen my legs much better than squatting.  :-Sarcasm

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