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Consumer Whores / Re: (passive) cooling vests - retaining flexibility?
« on: August 04, 2007, 02:20:58 PM »
im just not keen of adding an extra 2 pounds on my back

About 2/3rds of the gel is distributed along the front. The other third is on the upper half of your back (to avoid the kidneys).

It's been in the freezer for about half an hour now. I'll take it out soon and see how long it lasts, how effective it is in what's left of the day, and so on :)

Parkour And Freerunning / Re: Being chased
« on: August 03, 2007, 08:46:35 PM »
That makes no sense if you are chased you dont want to get cought and what part of walking fast keeps someone who is intent on catching you away.

Not them, but other people sometimes have the thought that if you're running you must have done something bad, so they stop you . . . :(

Anyways, there's no way this would fly well, not to mention if tourists were to come in town they wouldn't know much about this rule and would be walking around taping and taking pictures. Is a cop going to just sit in the airport handing out tickets or something?

Actually, the police wouldn't have to - Homeland Security would take care of everything.

Think about it - foreigners? In an airport? Taking pictures? :o

(Yeah, maybe just from out of town, not out of country - but still. I don't think anyone in America would be able to plead ignorance to such a law for long - once New York set the precedent, other states would be more likely to follow.)

Parkour And Freerunning / Re: Being chased
« on: August 03, 2007, 02:26:25 PM »
I analyze movement patterns and measure the probability of each potential follower. If someone's following me, it's probably because they want to get as close as they can before revealing their intent by running toward me. I alter course and speed to keep myself at a safe distance, in a good position for future movement, and in another direction from the dwindling list of alternative destinations/purposes the people around me might have. A circle is really the best way to determine this: noone with legitimate purposes is going to move around in a big circle that ultimately takes them nowhere, with the exact timing that allows them to keep close to you. (Of course, if they look like they're trying to meet up with you, their intent is probably benign. But if they're practicing stealth, pretending not to notice you or pay attention, it becomes very revealing when they nonetheless close in on you.) I'm not very good at guessing why the people around me are going to their anonymous destinations, though. So I tend to think I'm being followed/chased a lot ;D

Consumer Whores / Re: (passive) cooling vests - retaining flexibility?
« on: August 03, 2007, 01:40:07 PM »
A knocking at the door, just a few minutes ago. Oh look! It's a cooling vest!

I was in the middle of lunch. Testing, and further reports, will have to wait until after I finish lunch :P

umm, google "define:" command gives sources for every definition..

I know, and even looking at the website for some of the sources Google consults, I've been unable to figure out whether it's serious, parody, or just plain weird ;)

Anyways, there's no way this would fly well, not to mention if tourists were to come in town they wouldn't know much about this rule and would be walking around taping and taking pictures. Is a cop going to just sit in the airport handing out tickets or something?

Some of the news reports speculate that the authorities will simply harass whoever they feel prejudiced against, selectively enforcing the law. Not in those exact words (I'm paraphrasing), but does parkour have a good enough public image yet that we can afford to just glance away and think "Yeah, whatever, someone else will keep this from actually happening."?

Pics & Vids / Re: Team Nynja's First Video - Playground Parkour
« on: August 02, 2007, 10:10:45 PM »
Maybe it's just me, but I don't really care for making videos with songs used in other videos.

I've disliked the "songs" from the majority of PK videos I've seen. Only one stood out as bearable:

Sway 8)

(these definitions are from google, | just type define: and then the term to find them on your own).

I've seen/used the Google definition search before . . . it just searches dictionaries, parody dictionaries, nonsense dictionaries, and sources I haven't even been able to identify the nature of, to provide possible answers. A legal definition would be helpful, but what do you want to bet that the rulings go our way once that law is on the books for other groups to exploit?

They say at least 100 news outlets, but I only count 35 links.

The basic story is that you - and everyone else - will need to obtain a permit and $1 million insurance before filming for more than 30 minutes at any one location (assuming you're not filming yourself). Make that 10 minutes if there are more than 4 of you trying to train there.

The basic idea is that you'll be funded by the major media moguls. (If you aren't, well, then that's just too bad for you, isn't it?)

As for "spontaneous" events, well, the logistical impossibilities of obtaining permits for those will put a quick end to illusions of such freedom. You can have them (for now . . . ), just don't expect to be able to (legally) demonstrate to anyone else that they really happened ::)

Parkour And Freerunning / Re: building an obstacle course
« on: August 02, 2007, 08:34:13 PM »
And child, are you sure murder IS lllegal in Canada?

I even contacted a lawyer there to check.

Parkour And Freerunning / Re: A rant on Parkour "philosophy."
« on: August 01, 2007, 06:47:34 PM »
We reimagine the concrete and architecture as we see fit... and are no longer bound by the rules of "stairs" and "barriers" and "fences."

It just sounds silly to me when people describe things like "rules of stairs....." I would seriously like some one to elaborate on this a bit.

Raise foot. Slide foot forward until it is over next step. Lower foot. Shift weight and proceed.

A commonly accepted variation is taking more than one step at a time, but the basic pattern of movement is still unchanged.

Parkour And Freerunning / Re: building an obstacle course
« on: August 01, 2007, 06:42:46 PM »
Hey, Ruskiman, do you know how somebody would go about checking up on local tresspassing laws? I tried searching for "columbus tresspassing laws" on yahoo and google, and even on some ohio legislation website, but I couldn't get anything.

Haha . . . if you think that's bad, try looking in Canadian law sites for anything saying that murder is illegal!

(Hint: I couldn't.)

What is CN?

Abbreviation for Crowd Navigation, probably ;)

Parkour And Freerunning / Re: Spreading
« on: July 27, 2007, 03:27:49 PM »
And Im pretty sure it make a alot of cops rather uneasy knowing their are a bunch of kids who can out run them, who by the way hang out on rooftops.

But thankfully, Doug Groshong (SFPD, legal division) is not among them.

Parkour And Freerunning / Re: Spreading
« on: July 27, 2007, 12:32:25 PM »
If you see a sign saying "no climbing on wall" or "no parkour", it's probably there for a reason. This is known as explicit authority. The authority we're questioning in parkour is known as implicit authority: there's no sign, but we don't just assume that there's no climbing, jumping, etcetera, merely because the wall is there.

Parkour And Freerunning / Re: Spreading
« on: July 27, 2007, 12:27:14 PM »
Im an individual who doesnt really care what a sign says.
Who is making up all these rules,

The guy with a loaded rifle who keeps it with him at all times just in case one of those darn kids with no respect for the law come waltzing in across his carefully-tended lawn with blatant disrespect for the sign that says "Private Property! Keep out! No trespassing! Violators will be SHOT!"

Parkour And Freerunning / Re: Spreading
« on: July 26, 2007, 09:31:24 PM »
I came to the forums tonight to suggest a contrast between skateboarding and parkour, but luckily I read a few interesting-looking threads first, this looks like a better place for it:

With parkour however, the idea is not going against the flow, but going with it.

I have to disagree Isnt parkour about defeating man made obstacles?

Man-made obstacles define the flow of traffic (not to be confused with the "flow" of our own movement). Parkour, in that context, is about emphasizing the latter over the former. We use "escape" a lot, but when people hear that we want to "escape" the implicit authority of an obstacle, the obvious question is why. Why are we running away? (Obviously we must be doing something bad, then, since we recognize that we don't want to be caught.) We shouldn't distinguish between parkour and skateboarding by saying that skateboarders (and graffiti anti-artists) want to attack authority, whereas we only want to escape authority.

More useable terminology might be that skateboarders act to challenge authority, whereas we constantly seek to question authority. We treat the walls, etcetera, as mere "suggestions" that we not go that way, that instead we go around (use the gate). It should be stressed that we employ consideration, so we don't merely cross a barrier or defile an area because it's there (to explicitly reject implied authority), but think about whether the barrier represents an important authority (such as private property, Keep Out), or is merely an opportunity for confusion by taking the same form but not intended to actually prevent travel.

Have you seen the "Pub - Rush Hour" video? Why does David Belle accept a delay in movement to correct that TV antenna? Why bother showing a boy watching TV, and suddenly getting interference on his reception? Respect for the environment. We don't go around destroying (or "defeating") obstacles, we learn to move around and with them so they no longer disrupt our own (movement's) flow.

FAQ / Re: What shoes should I wear for Parkour?
« on: July 26, 2007, 08:59:44 PM »
Heh. I just bought these: You can't beat $19 shoes with climbing rubber, especially since I'm just starting out. Evolv is a really good climbing shoe manufacturer, too, quite reputable.

arrrgh they just called me and told me that they're out.  :-[ poopy.

They called you? I just got an E-mail . . . 9 days after they sent me my receipt . . . with another receipt, this time for my refund :(

One danger of crowd navigation is that someone else who wants to get through may latch onto you as the person to follow - and try to "hug" your back, which can be extremely unnerving since they are, for all intents and purposes, chasing you, and you often won't know why.

Socialize / Re: Graffiti + Parkour = Bad
« on: July 22, 2007, 10:26:44 AM »
We also studied the "leaving of cultural artifacts" such as Starbucks cups intentionally left in odd spaces.  Some may just be litter, but when you see one sitting on top of a clock 40 feet up in a lecture hall, you know someone did it on purpose.  Or one hidden behind several boxes on a shelf in a grocery store.  We were analyzing why people do this, because on some level, it's for recognition... but at the same time, no one is ever going to know that it is you who has done it.

Might have nothing to do with recognition. Could be solely for the psychological effect on people who see it - much like graffiti is art in unexpected places.

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