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Ruston, LA. co founder of a group that trains in Ruston on LA TECH campus.

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Louisiana / Re: Why is this board so dead?
« on: November 09, 2014, 04:24:30 PM »
Same question I asked around the summer. Louisiana is just plain awkward on communicating with each other about events. We still have Active members in Ruston, LA. Just gotta spread the word more about apk.

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Louisiana / Re: Just moved to Bossier
« on: August 28, 2014, 02:48:30 PM »
Hey Mr. Mutt, We are friends on Facebook. We have a group that trains regularly in Ruston if anyone is interested. Email me for information about meet ups and such.

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Parkour And Freerunning / Re: Let me rephrase the question.
« on: August 28, 2014, 02:40:50 PM »
Nah. Its more of an activity.

Actually it's not an activity. It's a full fledged community with sport minded people in mind. It's like saying "Crossfit is just people working out." Oh really [don't mean to be condescending], then explain to me why Reebok is sponsoring the Crossfit games that happen every year? Parkour may not be mainstream because of the naysayers that think we jump off rooftops every time we train; however, it's far evolved from just an activity. Explain all the parkour gyms and classes worldwide if our community is just an activity. Activity are temporary and are one time deals. Some of us use parkour an an active hobby while others have made careers out of this "activity." Parkour is a lifestyle hobby with potential to become the next big thing like skateboarding and/or surfing.

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Parkour And Freerunning / Re: PK BODY ARMOR!?!
« on: August 22, 2014, 03:17:29 PM »
While it may be cool, however, civilian traceurs develop their own body armor through their training.

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Pics & Vids / Re: My students!!
« on: August 12, 2014, 02:37:40 PM »
Man, I got to say, I enjoyed watching this. This is what a parkour class should be like. More focus on obstacles than focusing on Tricking and learning flips. I loved the progression of the levels. Great video overall and so much potential.

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Louisiana / Re: New to pk & looking for training partners!
« on: August 10, 2014, 03:04:59 PM »
Hey, Spence!

Thanks for replying to my post!  Sorry it's taken *me* so long to write back, though.  I got on & seen your post like the day after you wrote it, but got into reading all sorts of other stuff on the forum, & never replied.  Then, as fate would have it, I met with a whole slew of "obstacles" in my life, heh, so training, at least physically, got put off again.  =/.  I wish I would've stayed with it, though; I think of I could have, it might've helped me deal with everything else.  Nevertheless, I am trying to focus again, & have been doing a little training again.  My biggest obstacle so far, as far as the pk goes, has actualy been my shoes, of all things.  I have such hard to fit feet; I'm like a ladies 5-6.  Most shoes geared to pk or really even any good for pk, seem to be all mens, & my feet are too small to cross over & wear a men's shoe.  I did initially look for just a good running shoe, but almost everything was too narrow for my feet!  Finally foumd some Brooks tnat seem to fit, but those are reallly expensive for doing amy real pk in...lol...I would so tear them up right away.  I have actually just been working & walking in them right noe, with some light running, just to see if they are even right for my body.  I hesitated with them b/c the heel is sobig.  Im used to a little flatter shoe.  This one has lots of cushion, & a 12mm drop.  I have looked at Feyues, & it looks like they do come small enough, according to size chart, but I've read a lot of contradictory opinions, unfortunately, over whether or not these are good / safe for beginners.  Blah!  What do you think??

Anyway, I'm hoping to come down & train with you guys sometime soon, regardless of the shoe situation.  I want to use the gym, & excited to come meet everyone.  :).  I know school is starting now, though & there will probably be a lot going on down there.  Are you guys still planning on making time for pk training through the next few weeks?  When I come down,  it will either be on a Tuesday or over the weekend.  Let me know what yall's schedules are looking like!

-Steph

Hey, that's one thing about the parkour lifestyle we all have to deal with: molding our ordinary lifestyles with this new one we are all part off. As far as shoes good. 12mm drop shoes actually can cause negative responses especially for high impact sports like parkour due to the pounding of muscles and bones we do with our bodies. minimalist shoes, such as feiyues, help with the natural strengthening of the foot due to them being zero drop and having no arch support. I've heard of some women ordering small sizes in men's clothing, training gear, and shoes due to it feeling better towards them. Shoes can make or break a parkour career or hobby fast. I'll recommend going to birthdayshoes.com to do some research about minimalist shoes and invest in a good pair of running shoes like nike frees, vivobarefoot, or even puma. Hope some of these tips can help.

As far as our training schedule goes, since about four to five of us are training to be on the next American Ninja Warrior, we have a member training everyday Mondays and Thursdays from 7:45-9:00 PM and on Tuesdays, Wednesday, and Fridays from 5:30-7:30. I have work on nights, so My actual parkour training is limited until school starts for us, but I can set up training dates on the weekends and on my off days. There is actually an open gym session at Powerhouse Ruston every Tuesday from 6:30-7:30. First time is free and after is ten dollars a session. We all have great coaches and motivator, myself included. Feel free to email me if you're ever in the area.

Spence

P.S. Also search Parkour drills and workouts on Youtube to help out where needed. Plus doing yoga is a extremely useful resource for parkour.

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Louisiana / Re: Gonzales/Baton Rouge Area
« on: August 05, 2014, 11:48:40 PM »
You know, we just hosted the first ever collective Louisiana Parkour Jam in Baton Rouge this past May?

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Parkour as a whole has made me get over a lot of my fears and become a more humble individual. The strengths and gains are nice, but to me, it's about the sport's nakama or "Family" we have. At jams and events, we would train with people that seems like we known them for years and we just met that same day.

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Parkour And Freerunning / Re: Help?!! How to get better at parkour?
« on: July 27, 2014, 09:30:47 PM »
I've been doing parkour for almost a year and I suck :c. The only stuff I got down was vaults,handstand,cartwheel and one handed cartwheel and a front handspring. I did a backflip on a Mat but I'm afraid to try one on ground with fear that il land on my head. How do I get better? Or overcome my fears. I got injured doing mma so I can't practice for 2 months but when I get back I'm gonna go for a wall spin. But how do I improve overall? Cause it kills me how when people start parkour they learned what I learned in a day. Help?!

Don't sweat it man about your learning pace. I'm about where you are sans injury and I've been training for 3 years now. I've still learning the back tuck, but I can do arieals, butterfly kicks, websters, valuts and wall climbs. I still suck at precisions. Just keep training and don't try to be so judgemental, but be happy for them. Just train everyday or so.

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In the Media / Re: A Call To Arms
« on: July 15, 2014, 04:16:12 PM »
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure you're talking about me here and if so you're bastardizing what I said and taking it out of context to set up a weak straw man argument.

As far as when flips should be taught you're once again incorrect about what I said. I'm not gonna bother to find the link, but I argue that people can learn whatever they want whenever they want. The fact that it took you 9 months to learn a flip lends absolutely no credence to the idea that beginners can't learn them early. Your experience with parkour and free running is your own and you can't use it to impose regulations on others. People learn flips all the time just for fun, without any knowledge of what parkour is. You have no right to tell those people they should actually be training vaults and precisions because it's the "correct" way to do it. Not everybody wants to train as a purist and that's completely ok as long as they don't go around calling it parkour. If all somebody wants to do is flip and twist and impress their friends who are you to judge? Correct them if they call it by the wrong name but aside from that you have no business telling other people what to learn when. Everybody has their own journey and it doesn't have to be the same as yours.

Yea, I'm talking about the disagreements we have man, and it's not a weak straw argument. Just a short, concise to the point opinion instead of a wall of text.

By no means, I am a purist or an elitist, training with me is actually quite helpful and a humble experience. I respect the flips as much as the beautiful basics. I'm an hybrid of the sport of Parkour. However, I felt like you're bashing me for not learning flips earlier and to be honest, I didn't know about an open gym until almost my first full year of solely training parkour . May I ask this, whenever you flip or perform a vault, are your landings quiet or loud? I'm not the bossy type to go around advocating anything you think I do. I'm quite the opposite. I'm still a student of movement and learn from others and improve my own way. I've seen where the flips can be useful, especially in gaining distances, but I'm saying acrobatics should not be the end goal or main reason for training parkour.

The point of this question is exactly what the article is referring about. The new generation of parkour athletes coming up. Yes, I agree with flips are useful in their own way but it's not the way to advocate beginners to our sport. I've seen what this article is referencing from personal experience. Parkour is viable in all situations; however, if you're just doing it to learn flips just in the confines of a padded room, then why learn them and call it "parkour?" We have some guys that come to open gym with us and last week, our gym class was moved to outside and a few of the guys actually did some things they learned in the gym in the areas we trained at. The others just hesitated themselves and did little to no training. The opinion I'm saying is that flips are good, but how good are they truly if people do not use them other than in a gymnastics gym?

It's not about regulating or forcing people to follow my way; I think you missed the overall point of the article. The article is referring to the lack of structure and elements of physical training as a group traceurs should be doing to get better at baisc parkour skills like precisions and traversing. The article refers to the fact that most parkour athletes today lack understanding and form in thier movements that make them look more sloppy and untrained.  Not doubting your opinions, but to call flips the root of parkour is not entirely accurate. The roots of parkour come from George Herbert's Method Naturalle which does not inculde tumbling in the ten sports he chose. I'm just saying that training sessions and parkour classes need to have a traditional mindset in teaching the sport instead of going from landings > Rolls > Basic Vaults > Flips.

Well it's not an argument since everyone will eventually learn a trick or two, depending on style, but to start off a beginner on flips still bothers me. I, for one, haven't mastered anything I've done, I'm just improving on what I can do and learn. Anyone can improve on flips, rolls, etc. no matter the skill level. If you read any parkour books, they usually don't include flips at all or if they do, the most basic flips are listed in the end as extra moves or acrobatics. I believe that if you practiced something in the gym but can't apply it outside, then why are you claiming you know a skill when you bail each time outside or only got it once and say you mastered it? Point is, Arcobatics should not be the main focus of parkour training.

To be fair, I'm not saying the sport is dying, but weakened core habits outside a certification test or coaching scene. The average parkour athlete wants to learn a gainer rather than perfect a kong to work on a double kong. Everyone has their own learning curve, but understanding the basics will help out a lot more than setting the bar high with flips that scare away potential newcomers. I agree with you on the point of people are getting defensive about values, but what about the everyman that didn't come from a gymnastics or martial artist background like me? To me, both sides are elitist in their own way by shunning the other side for opinions. I see the sport gaining more and more people everyday; however, I wish everyone would just get a long and train.

Didn't mean to call you out; it just seems like you love attacking my opinions often XD. To be honest, I'll would love to train with you someday and discuss some of our opinions face to face since text skews attitudes.

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In the Media / Re: A Call To Arms
« on: July 15, 2014, 02:46:58 AM »
WOW! That was very well written.  I fully agree with Chis on this.   I really had no clue about any of this stuff  before this year,  I went to APK and did their coaching cert and learned way more than I ever thought.   When looking at videos now, I notice what they are doing wrong to their bodies, their training environment, and the sport.  I feel guilty for not knowing this stuff sooner and trying to teach these values.  The values are now apart of my lesson plans for my classes and will always be a big factor on how I teach!  We do need more coaches and leaders teaching these values across the world!




This right here. Back in 2011, I got into parkour from a tricker, but I was fascinated by the purist methodology than flair with what the sport has become today. Not calling out any names, but a forum user that disagrees with me often on here says that flips are part of parkour and should be taught at the novice levels in their 3+ months of training? I say no to this for the simple fact of I was there learning a flip for nine months before I could get the concept. I try to stress conditioning as much as I can without being to overbearing with it; however, people feel the need to go with the play and train mentality than the get in a 20-30 minute wod and then do parkour or drill a movement for 20-30 minutes at a time. From what I've seen is people would get something once, and not train that movement again in the moment. Flips kinda destroyed the sport into my opinion.

Yes, the increased athleticism and skill can mean something; however, how effectively can you go on with flow. Problem I always see is the short bursts of flow in videos and they just either stop after the flip or cut the video to another scene. Just like the people who edit out bad wall climbs and the struggle it takes to get over the wall, that takes away from your progression if you request help. These short burst of flow are just doing tricks off objects if you break it down. Some of the landings are just loud and sketchy.

Overall the article really hit me hard, reminding me the way how I used to train all the time before graduate school started and the hours I would spend trying out a move to get the technique. I consider myself an novice intermediate because I am still learning, but I understand the meaning of training sessions instead of getting bored with an area because it's not much potential because of the lack of using the environment like a traceur. Just my two cents.

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Parkour And Freerunning / Re: Beginner injury - need help
« on: July 14, 2014, 02:53:04 PM »
Yea. This injury is very common. I've hit my knees at full force twice and no doctor is necessarily needed if you're not bleeding or feel it's broken.

Common treatment is ice pack the knee twice a day. Find some stretching routines for your knees from yoga. It's going to be 3-5 weeks of healing. As it gets better,  train on it lightly.

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Louisiana / Re: New to pk & looking for training partners!
« on: July 14, 2014, 01:33:33 AM »
What up LA traceurs!  I am new to Parkour, & looking for some locals to train with.  I am just starting out, & as such, my primary focus right now is pretty basic-- strength, endurance, conditioning & basic foundational moves & techniques.  I don't even have any background in running, so that is all fairly new to me too.  I do have a background in gymnastics, though, & that has come in handy, but I've pretty much picked up what little pk I know from you tube videos, lol.  I'm not a real big fan of sitting around online, though, so I could really use a partner!

I've seen quite a few posts from the Lafayette area, & it looks like there are also posts from the Ruston & Monroe areas.  Anybody from Shreveport/Bossier area, or NWLA?  (I also travel down to around Natchitoches once in a while, so if you're
near there, or somewhere btwn here & there, give me a shout!  Maybe we can meet up when I come that way.)


-Steph

Hey Steph, Spencer here from Ruston. Glad to know that someone from our state is interested in our sport. We try to train at least twice a day in Ruston on Tech Campus. We have a small community of people, but due to the summer, not everyone is around but a few. Just hit us or me up through email or facebook if you want to train.

Now for conditioning, since I'm one of our coaches. All I can give you is the basic parkour fit test I always give noobies, but since you're experienced in gymnastics, I'll bump up the reps. For now focus on getting the push up and pull up form down by doing 4 sets of each at 12 reps every other day. Also do squats and an ab move variation with the same sets and reps. For running, start off at 1 to 1.5 miles every day or so.

I'll be looking foreward in training with you soon.

--Spencer

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Parkour And Freerunning / Re: Parkour suppression
« on: June 11, 2014, 05:27:42 PM »
I agree with the other guy that posted about this situation but here's my two cents. (Experience with Parkour- 3 years training)

Not to get personal but how old are you? The reason being is age has a major factor into it, especially if you're alone. I understand the cops are just doing thier job; but were you like doing movements that kept getting you hurt or you failed a lot. You say 3 months in, eh? Well I'll start with ground stuff like rolls and QM. They can't complain about a person "doing gymnastics" now can't they? The point is to respect the environment you choose as a training ground and its inhabitants, I'm sure the people were just worried that you may bump into thier children or vice versa. I remember I nearly axe kicked a child during a webster but luckily the child stopped a few feet before I landed. But sometimes folks are weird and too noisy at times.

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Parkour And Freerunning / Re: Training others
« on: June 07, 2014, 05:45:43 PM »
He probably meant literally strides, but honestly both. Most beginners and most people in general can't even run properly and it's hugely overlooked. Pay at. ntion to posture and running technique next time you watch a parkour video, especially of a beginner. You might cringe a little.

Also, he never said teach "the three basic vaults" he said teach three different vaults. Huge difference there. Not to mention I'd argue that speed is just an extension of safety and kong and monkey are pretty much the same vault just adapted to a slightly different situation. The three most basic vaults are probably safety, kong, and lazy.

You're right to a certain extent; however,  Kong and monkey vaults are two separate entities. While the finish is the same,  the start is very different. In short, monkeys are hands first,  then you jump to the obstacle. Kongs are more of a dive first then place hands. There's a thousand of threads about this debate. It's key to know the difference.

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Pics & Vids / Re: Connecticut PK - JAM!
« on: June 07, 2014, 02:09:33 PM »
Really loved this style of a jam. Not too much focus on a "Gym" setting and more of parkour. I loved the whole video. Nice work guys.

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Parkour And Freerunning / Re: Training others
« on: June 07, 2014, 02:04:47 PM »
Body awareness, proper stride, and confident approach. Don't focus on teaching them techniques as much as teaching them how to get in touch with and improve the capabilities of their bodies. That is something that is glossed over far too often. I feel like if there was a greater focus put on that, there would be far less injuries and stupid accidents.

With all of these things expect for the don't teach them techniques. Techniques add building blocks and should always be broken down to help beginners, especially if you're teaching them flips and/or advanced vaults. Safety should the primary focus because we can't train parkour everywhere and any where we want (certain situational areas). Set good foundation for them by having them do drop rolls to get accumstomed to falling and light impacts. Most young traceurs today focus too much on the freerunning side of things with flips and such early on without becoming comfortable in thier own skin when taking a bail or a fall.

"Proper stride?" what does this even mean? as in running stride or a stride where it's the precision stride?

The 3 basic vaults are actually six. Speed, Safety, Lazy, Dash, Kong, and Monkey vaults. Make sure to know the difference between the monkey and the kong vault. sometimes people mix them up all the time.

For my own suggestions, rolls, dive rolls, balance, proper workout routines and diet, and wall runs.

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Pics & Vids / Re: Louisiana PK Jam on May 30 (Teaser)
« on: June 02, 2014, 09:52:28 AM »
Cool video Spencer! Looks like a really fun jam. Tell whoever filmed it that the lens on that camera needs cleaning though.

Okay. I'll clean my lens and case of my gopro.  :)

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Pics & Vids / Louisiana PK Jam on May 30 (Teaser)
« on: June 01, 2014, 01:41:33 PM »
Here's a teaser of this Friday's meet up in Louisiana in Baton Rouge that I hosted and was proud to be a part of. Enjoy and comments are welcomed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDpFDk-DT7k

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