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Diet / Meta-study on relationship of carbohydrates to obesity or ill-health
« on: September 29, 2007, 10:12:05 PM »
News here, abstract here. Can't gain access to the full article without membership. I'll stop there since I couldn't do much with the information if I did see it ;D

They say at least 100 news outlets, but I only count 35 links.

The basic story is that you - and everyone else - will need to obtain a permit and $1 million insurance before filming for more than 30 minutes at any one location (assuming you're not filming yourself). Make that 10 minutes if there are more than 4 of you trying to train there.

The basic idea is that you'll be funded by the major media moguls. (If you aren't, well, then that's just too bad for you, isn't it?)

As for "spontaneous" events, well, the logistical impossibilities of obtaining permits for those will put a quick end to illusions of such freedom. You can have them (for now . . . ), just don't expect to be able to (legally) demonstrate to anyone else that they really happened ::)

This came up in another thread . . . to quickly sum up the reasoning, cities have many obstacles, and not all of them are inanimate. One of the characteristics of a city is the high(er) population density, which may result in crowds. Setting aside for a moment the reaction of "People are obstacles? That's cold. People aren't objects.", how would you make your way through a group of other people as an extension of parkour? What ways can you think of to train yourself and other traceurs to move together? Which qualities do you see as being especially helpful for this? (Coordination, etc.)

Parkour And Freerunning / Why jams are bad for parkour
« on: July 15, 2007, 10:34:23 PM »
Scenario: 12-20 traceurs gathered together, practicing/training/drilling/whatever. As they're moving through some terrain, a crisis strikes. Each of them must evacuate the area at speed to survive.

Were there just one of them (or even a handful), this would be feasible. As their numbers are, multiple collisions occur at the points of greatest potential for efficient escape.

Since parkour focuses on "outside of the box" facilitators of bodily movement, most traceurs avoid a straight "running for it" path (along the ground), even intending to avoid the route intersection that may result from picking the same direction someone else did. Most of these collisions result in injury (and delay) of significantly higher intensity than incurred by those who run into each other on flat pavement.

Jams are good for training, but invite catastrophic outcomes in cases where actual parkour is suddenly needed during the event.

Parkour And Freerunning / Parkour and safety gear
« on: May 23, 2007, 01:55:29 PM »
Excuse me, but wouldn't competitions require safety gear? And wouldn't safety gear completely undermine the whole definition of parkour?

Open questions, to the community at large - what do you consider "safety gear"? Shoes? (They protect your feet.) At what point, if any, would safety gear lead you to questioning whether what you were doing was still parkour? Would it matter whether you wore that gear practically all the time?

Parkour And Freerunning / Anti-competition movie idea
« on: May 20, 2007, 11:22:54 PM »
"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike – as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price."
-Vir Cotto, Babylon 5

The saying is not entirely appropriate, but that's what gave me this idea - we've got traceurs in the community who also do filming (or, at least, videography), so why not ask a few of them to help make a movie about the dark future of Competitive Parkour?

Portray a world like our own (close enough to be uneasily near in time, and to cut down on special-effects costs), where lone traceurs are confronted by league enforcers with the skills to chase them down and the legal authority to say "You may not practice parkour unless you are part of a team, and follow our rules."

We can tell people why competition would be bad for parkour, until we're blue in the face, and they will still go ahead to prove us right, because their ego needs to prove us wrong; but if we can show them (and, more importantly, the viewing public) how competition would be bad for parkour, they will seek to avoid even the slightest step down that path, because - if not - the common person will be there to notice similarities between real competitions and the movies, and raise a fuss over it.

It's easy to say "Oh, those are just doomsayers." when there's nothing but talk. So let's give them something to look at.

The first problem I can see with this idea is that whoever plays the villains will be real traceurs, and anyone familiar with parkour through the movie will recognize and identify them accordingly. An introduction to the movie (or short interview after it) to establish that these people are just doing it to prove a point, and actually side with the real traceurs in the movie, should help mitigate this.

Further problems, solutions, and plot ideas are welcome. Let's leave a warning for future generations 8)

Consumer Whores / (passive) cooling vests - retaining flexibility?
« on: May 12, 2007, 10:44:29 PM »
I'm seriously looking at buying one from Arctic Heat, but I don't want to rip/tear it with casual (or extravagant) movements. Does anyone have any experience with this vest?

edit: I'm in AZ, by the way. I mention this because I just noticed that my Location is listed as Boston, Massachusetts. What the?!?

2nd edit: That is, presumably it's supposed to be Location - I don't know what else it would be for.

Movement / Vertical precision leaping
« on: May 12, 2007, 10:05:57 PM »
To be efficient (not waste energy by leaping higher than I need to), and to be flexible (limited maneuverability in midair; the less time I spend off the ground, the sooner I can be prepared to leap again - and, if necessary, change direction), it's occurred to me that I really should try to practice leaping only exactly as high as I need to.

Does anyone know any good drills for this? I know where to find a few concrete blocks of varying heights, the problem is that if I fall (or don't quite leap high enough), the fall is also to concrete. This makes me somewhat uneasy ;)

Consumer Whores / Buildings.
« on: April 13, 2007, 05:39:42 PM »

They sell to North America.

Now we can not only move like children, but play in (and on) what looks like a life-size city made of Legos.

Colorado / visiting Brush
« on: November 16, 2006, 10:59:00 PM »
I will be spending a few days in Brush, with family, for Thanksgiving. During this time I may be able to talk someone who knows the area into taking me somewhere, but are there any parkour hotspots specifically in Brush?

Diet / Working out but not eating enough?
« on: November 04, 2006, 11:03:59 PM »
I'm just wondering, is there a level of exercise where the body actually needs more food, and Bad Things will begin to happen if your diet is not adjusted to support it? I have read that, when the body is not getting an optimum level of food, it begins to "strip out" the unneeded parts, and you become lean and stringy . . . but I was wondering where the breakpoint is that our metabolic efficiency can't keep up past, and what sort of Bad Things start to happen. Any warning signs that we aren't getting enough to eat?

Okay, aside from the obvious of getting hungry ;)

I'm good at taking my body to its limits, but part of that is suppressing the side effects and, more importantly, disregarding the lesser ones. I know when I'll fall over, but I don't know the intermediate stages very well; I don't know how serious any of them are. What sort of things would you be experiencing to get worried about the signals?

Consumer Whores / mini-flashlights for night training
« on: November 01, 2006, 11:02:00 PM »
Miniaturization has contrived to give us flashlights powerful enough to illuminate the ground ahead, but lightweight enough that we can attach it to our bodies and hardly notice anything's there.

Review here, but I got a couple of plain black models for $1.95 apiece at J&L.

With any long-sleeved upperwear, peel back the cuffs and clip the light on (if you clip it to the cuffs normally, the flashlight will be to one side of your wrists, and interfere with the movement there). Between choosing where (and at what angle) it clips to the cuff, and adjusting the tilt (360 degree swivel mount), I was able to direct the light anywhere I could think of putting it, for any position (or closely related groups of positions) that my arm might be in while walking or running.

Next time, I'll open up the second package and put one on each forearm. I like the idea of being able to keep the ground ahead of me illuminated, while pointing at the area I'm thinking of going to for automatic lighting there.

Movement / The physics of rolling
« on: October 16, 2006, 01:52:49 PM »
I've read a lot of excellent How-To's on rolling, and seen videos (the Zanshin looped one was particularly helpful to see what should happen), but one thing still confuses me:

Using the roll for (safe) landings.

I don't understand how the roll can help with those; every time I see a land-roll, it looks like they are taking the full impact and then doing a separate move in the next moment. But part of this is logic; my mind tells me that you have to be on the ground, having struck it with your full weight, before you can propel your body into the next movement (or any movement, really, except falling).

It would help if I could see an explanation of how the physics of this works out. Has anyone seen one of those they could point me to?

Parkour And Freerunning / Terrified of jump height?
« on: October 05, 2006, 08:59:05 PM »
Commitment to a leap, vault, or other movement that involves jumping requires a commitment to the jump. If your body is only half into it, failure is almost assured.

That said, I have problems with committing my weight to all-forward momentum for jumping. I've tracked it down to the fear that my legs will hit the bar (or whatever I am practicing on), and stop, but my upper body will keep going, and I will end up doing something awkward (and quite probably painful) as I try to land through a solid object.

Short of finding someone to watch me as I try to leap over progressively higher obstacles, and let me know how much I made it by each time, I've been stuck on how to work my way up to "maximum height" without feeling uncomfortable/afraid. Until tonight.

I realized that I could take tissue paper, maybe even wet tissue paper, and (because of how its stored on rolls, going out to extreme lengths) drape it between two poles, at some height; then, try to jump over it. If the (wet) tissue paper doesn't tear, I know that I didn't hit it (and I can leap several times to know that it's a measure of my general ability, not just how I did that one time), and I can raise it a bit before continuing to experiment. If, as will happen eventually, my feet or any other part of my body intersect the (wet) tissue paper, my motion will not be impeded.

I also thought of using normal paper, since the tissue paper could be a bit too expensive (even after cutting each roll to make several strips), but normal paper doesn't stretch quite as far. That's when I thought of using ribbon ;D

Find two poles. Take one end of the ribbon; if you tie it tightly, it might resist your fall, but if you tie it loosely, it might slip down along the pole as time passes. You don't need to worry about either of those, since you won't even be tying it. Don't even loop it around the pole. Just tape it to the side, and make sure the tape isn't so good that it'll stick like glue.

The material itself doesn't need to give way, so long as it doesn't hold on to the anchors. Same effect: the ribbon comes down with you, you don't get hurt, and you know that you can't (always) jump that high. It's the best of all possible worlds.

I suppose you could also use string, which has a better chance than ribbon of breaking, but I wouldn't rely on it (for fear that it wouldn't break), and if you're already taping each end to a pole you may as well go with ribbon instead (more durability).

I only had this idea tonight, and I haven't had a chance to try it out yet, so: apply common sense and the usual caution. If you've tried something like this, or it seems like such a neat idea that you couldn't wait to see how it worked for anyone else, please reply to share your experiences.

Parkour And Freerunning / Spin-offs of Parkour
« on: September 18, 2006, 07:30:23 PM »
Not just freerunning here but all the others:

I was trying to explain parkour to someone yesterday, and they said "Oh you mean like the city jumpers?"

I had no idea what this was, so I asked and learned that they were "people who run around the city jumping on/off/between anything they can find". Trying to point out that this could just be from other people watching traceurs, but having no idea what they were doing, and making up a name for it rather than going and asking what those people were doing, I asked and he said "no, they call themselves this".

At first I was wondering how to handle something like this, where the person you are speaking to knows about something that's apparently related, but isn't exactly parkour, and may lead them to misinterpret your explanations in light of what they think you're talking about. But after reading a few threads here about similar questions, I have a different and much shorter question.

With a respectful note of what Argon said about Stage 2 (Divergence), which I think is what's beginning to go on here, is anyone keeping track of all the different terms flying around, is there a list maintained somewhere that I can regularly memorize so I know when I hear a new word how those people differ from traceurs?

I have no webspace, but if folks could chime in with the terms they've encountered before and, if you've spoken with anyone who uses it to refer to themselves, exactly what it stands for; we could maybe use this thread to start combining our notes on what crazy words people have come up with to describe us.

Training Journals / like_a_child's observations
« on: September 17, 2006, 05:55:59 PM »
This will not be updated regularly, though hopefully I will be able to update it frequently. It is more for what I notice, and figure out, mentally, while training, than for what I am doing and/or have done physically. For instance, if I am doing a move wrong, I will document how I knew it to be a bad method, and if possible I will identify the exact mistakes I was making; but if I get a technique right, this may or not receive a mention, many of us can do the basic techniques right so I won't find it all that impressive if, say, I can finally do a roll well :)

First report (for yesterday afternoon) coming tonight, I'll break for dinner though and come back to this.

[Modified: oh yes, I'm having Stouffer's vegetable lasagna for dinner :)]

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