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Parkour And Freerunning / Re: Getting injured too often, help
« on: April 01, 2014, 02:06:08 AM »
All my friends mock parkour (except the one i train with), and my parents aren't very supportive either, and I also don't enjoy training in public very much. Anyway, it seems that anybody who sees me doing parkour looks at me like i'm some sort of an idiot and says "Stop doing that monkey business!" or something like that.

That is indeed a huge obstacle to overcome, but it isn't impossible.  You need to look at it as an opportunity to educate and inspire.  Obstacles are really just opportunities in disguise.  If you think of it that way, you have already partly overcome it.  Also, always remain mature, respectful, and serious in your training so that people do not associate it with "monkey business".

One time a few years ago I took my brother to train at a local spot.  It was a government building, but fairly remote, and it had amazing things to train with.  After awhile I noticed a guard watching us, and I could tell he was just about ready to come over and kick us off the property.  I immediately stopped, grabbed my brother, and took him over to a spot and instructed him in a very serious manner about how to properly perform precisions, and demonstrated.  I also watched as he tried, made proper corrections, and continued with this for a time (we were just practicing with lines on the ground next to the building).  The guard stopped and looked at us curiously, then you could tell he immediately began to think of us differently.  When I turned to instruct, and showed the seriousness and dedication behind our actions, what we were doing morphed from simple child's play to something a little more important.  The guard saw maturity in us, and a calm demeanor and dedication to training, not a bunch of kids jumping around the building.

It won't always go down like that, but you need to always do YOUR part to represent what you believe in well, especially when those around you are very knew to the idea of parkour.

The thing I want to talk about are injuries. I know that injuries are a part of parkour, but I seem to get injured too often.

Injuries are NOT a part of parkour.  Any time an injury happens (except for the extremely rare freak accident), it is usually a result of failing to follow the principles behind parkour.  Most of the stories you mentioned show your inability to responsibly deal with the signs around you which bespoke of danger.  Sometimes the signs are within us, and sometimes they are around us.  The rare times that I have become injured during a parkour training session have been a direct result of my stupidity, irresponsibility, and/or my failure to listen to my body.  I get injured a lot, but usually it is not while I am training because that is when my senses are heightened and my body and mind are one (I am not cool enough to achieve that all the time ;) )

Don't give up!  Get out there and train, but train safely.  There are always safe ways to practice any movement before going all in on some crazy wall, or bar, or whatever.  As you suggested yourself, I do think you need to take things a little slower, not in training your body, but in preparing your body and mind for bigger things.  Don't skip the baby steps, embrace them!

Parkour And Freerunning / Re: parkour when you fat. advice wanted
« on: April 01, 2014, 01:38:46 AM »
How goes the training?  Have you tried parkour aspects of training yet?

I have a friend who is in the same boat as you.  He wants to try parkour but is afraid that his weight will damage his joints.  I have told him that as long as he starts off slowly and works his way up (just like everyone), and really pays attention to what his body is telling him, it should be fine.  If you have found certain things that work for you, I'll pass it on to him for inspiration!

Movement / Re: vaulting issue
« on: March 31, 2014, 06:20:06 PM »
I really think I am planting too hard, and by changing the angle do you mean to the side? And when is it too far?

Without actually seeing you do it, It's hard to say.  Just play around with a few things.  It should not be a significant angle change.  Just a few degrees here or there can change a lot.

Movement / Re: Roll pain on concrete - tried all tips.
« on: March 31, 2014, 06:18:34 PM »
Interesting video about the more sideways roll:

It's apparently especially useful for people with a low center of mass (most females) but there is the concern of rolling too sideways and hitting your ribs.

That's a great video.  Everyone needs to understand the principle of keeping your downward momentum moving downwards and slowly transitioning it forwards, even if they are not doing a "girl roll".

Parkour / Re: Fear Of Kong on Rails
« on: March 31, 2014, 06:05:02 PM »
Hi, i have this fear i cant seem to get over. I can do kongs easily on wide surfaces where i can plant my hands down and push myself over when i dive, but when it comes to a rail it feels totally different and when i have tried a few times my feet wind up not getting over the rail so i have to re-adjust and move them to the side to get over. can anyone tell me what im doing wrong.

I think you may be grabbing the bar instead of planting them momentarily, causing you to grasp it in fear and hold on a little too long, which would mess with your momentum and form.

You also may be jumping too close to the bar, as previously stated by other commenters.  Start with some monkey vaults and slowly move back to kongs until it is natural.

Movement / Re: Roll Pain
« on: March 31, 2014, 05:59:24 PM »
I will agree that rolls performed correctly will significantly reduce pain and discomfort.  I disagree that for everyone, it will completely eradicate pain.  You have to take a couple things into perspective:

1) Some people have abnormal anatomy.  This can be from birth or from injury.  I personally broke a bone in my lower back (on the left side) and now that it is healed it protrudes far more than normal.  Because of this, I keep my rolls to the opposite side, because rolling on the same side as the protrusion makes it impractical on hard surfaces.  This can also go for those who are insanely skinny or have other common body problems.

2) People define pain in very different ways.  I have a high pain tolerance and for others it is practically non-existent.  Instead of "pain" we should mention "damage".  A roll should never "damage" any part of your body, including bruising, cuts, scrapes, etc ...  If you are experiencing a little pain, but absolutely no damage to your body, I would say it is fine.

Parkour / Re: Name that technique
« on: March 31, 2014, 05:49:38 PM »
sounds like kong to dive roll to me
2 moves fluently tied together to look like all one movement is called 'flow' lol

I completely agree.  Not everything needs a name.  We shouldn't confine our movements and training to a "list" of named moves.

Parkour / Re: Goal of Horizontal Wallrunning
« on: March 31, 2014, 05:45:22 PM »
No, a horizontal wall run is only effective in fiction such as video games. In reality, the force of gravity would be too strong for you to overcome and your momentum will go completely downward. You are better off doing a single foot tic tac than a horizontal wall run.

I agree, but there may be rare circumstances where a horizontal wall run (with 2+ steps) may be useful to get past certain obstacles.  It would be rare, as I said.  The most important thing is tailoring your movements to the obstacle, not trying to force your movements into every situation.

Movement / Re: Roll pain on concrete - tried all tips.
« on: March 31, 2014, 05:39:11 PM »
I have had the same problem with my hip bone in the past.  You need to start trying different angles with your roll until you find one that avoids your hip bone.  For some people, they come out of a roll almost completely sideways, which is okay as long as you are protecting your body (though you are really sacrificing momentum at that point.)

As a side note, work on your left foot placement as well.  You should try flexing it and coming up on the ball of your foot instead of allowing it to slap onto the floor.  This may help with pain and a number of problems you may come across in the future.

Movement / Re: Need help- anyone have the same problem (READ)
« on: March 31, 2014, 05:32:57 PM »
Bodies are very adaptable and that can be a bad or good thing.  When you consistently train the same things, your body will slowly adapt over time and your soreness will dramatically decrease.

Unfortunately this goes for taking time off as well.  The minute your body takes a prolonged break, it is adapting to that as well.  Luckily, your muscles have memory and once you achieve something, it is usually easier and easier to obtain the next time.

Movement / Re: vaulting issue
« on: March 31, 2014, 05:29:28 PM »
It's almost certainly just a nerve getting pinched or hit when you plant your hand.  You can try planting in different angles, and like the previous poster suggested, don't slam your hand too hard.  Your hand is there to guide you over and help stabalize yourself, and should be doing little to propel you over the object.

A video captures it better than they can explain it

Don't underestimate the power of language!  Seeing things can actually confuse you more, depending on the situation.  That's why there are so many optical illusions out there, because people can make you see whatever they want.

That's really the nature of parkour in the first place, to make very complicated things look effortless and simple.  It is often not simple, and comes from hours and hours of training, tweaking, and analyzing.

Parkour And Freerunning / Re: Time to get back into parkour
« on: March 31, 2014, 05:19:30 PM »
I try to stick to indoor locations during the winter, but that isn't a luxury for a lot of people.  When you find one, keep it in mind and train there during the winter!

Welcome! / Re: Welcome Thread - New Members please announce here!
« on: March 31, 2014, 03:17:29 PM »
Wow, it has been awhile since I have gotten on here, but I am back!

Parkour And Freerunning / Re: Men's To Woman's Running Shoe
« on: April 16, 2012, 08:15:31 AM »
Parkour is a great way of exercise for me. Its one form of maintaining your body in an alternative way. I'm new in doing parkour or barely a beginner in this and hoping to master it day by day.

That was random  :-Sarcasm

I wish my feet were small enough to fit into women's shoes.  Some of their shoes look awesome, but wearing a size 13 in men's makes it hard to even find the right size without crossing the gender line.

Winter is my PK season, summer I have no choice but to be a-lurkin' in the gyms. Grab onto a rail or ledge during the summer season and this happens:

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Haha  :D  Hot surfaces do suck sometimes, but it is just another obstacle, right?

Parkour And Freerunning / Re: Effects of rain
« on: April 16, 2012, 08:02:39 AM »
Training in the rain can be very aesthetically pleasing as well.  It can be a fun, beautiful, experience.

Parkour And Freerunning / Re: Nature Parkour
« on: April 16, 2012, 07:53:57 AM »
Honestly, I don't plan on littering, starting fires, hunting or doing anything outside of my basic human instincts so I am just fitting into nature. If some one gives me static for it I laugh and continue my day or walk away

Good point.  We are all part of nature, after all.

I think there is no greater experience in Parkour than in training alone.  When you train alone, you know you are committed, and motivated, and there is a sense of solitary might that cannot be stifled.

But training with others is usually preferable.  Learning from others and having that support group is useful.

Not enough people know about parkour/freerunning yet, and these shows don't advertise well enough to get large audiences, so until parkour is bigger, or they are willing to fork out tons of money for advertising, these shows will die away.

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