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Title: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Luke Tate on February 06, 2012, 09:36:01 AM
My recent pair of 5Ten D├Žscent's have lived a very long life of a year and 1/2. I haven't really researched many other brands of shoes that can match the quality of the 5Ten stealth rubber. I would appericiate any advice on a pair of runners that wouldn't be over 70$ and could still hold the quality of...
-grip              1-5
-durability      1-5
-suppression 1-5
-flexibility       1-5
-overal look   1-5
Also sharing your experience with your favorite runners would really be appreciated :D
           All advice is helpful! ^^ 
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Ryan Sannar on February 07, 2012, 07:58:47 AM
You want a shoe that is over $70?
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Luke Tate on February 07, 2012, 10:19:23 AM
 :o oh crap, I meant to put less than 70$, lemme correct that real quick xD Thanks
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Anthony Hadouken on February 07, 2012, 12:14:10 PM
this is gonna sound weird, but, when you work in fast food they give you a catalog to get non slip shoes, its required, its called shoes for crews, they are designed to be on your feet for hours and hours so they are comfy, they are light and the grip in unmatched by any other shoe ive found, just my opinion though, google it, shoes for crews
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Jordan Strybos on February 07, 2012, 01:06:59 PM
From what I've been told by endless amounts of others, Feiyues are the best. Personally I've never used them though.

I really enjoy Onitsuka Tigers, from Asics. They were about $60 I believe, so they just slip in under your budget, and I've been very satisfied with them.
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Gabe Arnold on February 07, 2012, 03:35:25 PM
I haven't had a chance to pressure test them yet but the Saucony Bullets (http://www.sneakerhead.com/saucony-bullet-running-shoes-294338.html) are feeling amazing.

(http://www.sportsbasement.com/istarimages/p/p-1943-33-S10!SAUCO.jpg)
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Luke Tate on February 08, 2012, 09:53:03 AM
Sounds good, I'll look up some more reviews on these and do some debating ^^
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Post by: Anthony Hadouken on February 08, 2012, 12:15:48 PM
I haven't had a chance to pressure test them yet but the Saucony Bullets (http://www.sneakerhead.com/saucony-bullet-running-shoes-294338.html) are feeling amazing.

(http://www.sportsbasement.com/istarimages/p/p-1943-33-S10!SAUCO.jpg)
see the grip pattern on these ^ thats how my shoes are and they only cost like 30 bucks
http://www.shoesforcrews.com/sfc3/index.cfm?changeWebsite=US_en&route=c_store.viewDetailsOfProduct&partnumber=6010
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Gabe Arnold on February 09, 2012, 08:15:30 AM
see the grip pattern on these ^ thats how my shoes are and they only cost like 30 bucks
http://www.shoesforcrews.com/sfc3/index.cfm?changeWebsite=US_en&route=c_store.viewDetailsOfProduct&partnumber=6010

They also have super thick soles. High heels and soles can cause poor running and movement mechanics, upping the chances of injury. I don't doubt they're cheaper and good for training but purely on a longevity standpoint, I prefer something closer to the ground. The Bullets aren't ideal sole-wise but they're better than most. And IMO they look cooler :P
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Post by: Anthony Hadouken on February 09, 2012, 09:53:11 AM
yeah i like mine cuz they are flat soled, lol they do look cool but functionality over looks hahaha
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Jordan Strybos on February 09, 2012, 05:03:29 PM
They also have super thick soles. High heels and soles can cause poor running and movement mechanics, upping the chances of injury. I don't doubt they're cheaper and good for training but purely on a longevity standpoint, I prefer something closer to the ground. The Bullets aren't ideal sole-wise but they're better than most. And IMO they look cooler :P

QFT
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Alec Furtado on February 10, 2012, 12:20:02 AM
Bought some Feiyues to get free shipping out of my Amazon purchase. GREATEST IDEA. I love these things now. Not only are they super comfortable, grippy, and inexpensive, but they make you feel like a ninja.

BTW, how do you pronounce Feiyue... FEE-yu?
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Gabe Arnold on February 10, 2012, 10:02:46 PM
Bought some Feiyues to get free shipping out of my Amazon purchase. GREATEST IDEA. I love these things now. Not only are they super comfortable, grippy, and inexpensive, but they make you feel like a ninja.

BTW, how do you pronounce Feiyue... FEE-yu?

I believe it's pronounced Fay-you.
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Post by: Alec Furtado on February 10, 2012, 10:40:02 PM
I believe it's pronounced Fay-you.
:(

Some searching concluded that's pronounced something like fay-YWEH??? Haha. Kinda like the last name Yue.
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Adam McC on February 11, 2012, 07:38:36 AM
yeah i like mine cuz they are flat soled, lol they do look cool but functionality over looks hahaha

I personally suggest you look into new shoes. Flexibility is a very important aspect for parkour shoes, as well as was mentioned before, a sole that isn't too thick. Not to rain on your parade, but your work shoes look absolutely awful for Parkour. Very unhealthy for your ankles and knees. Grip is really not a big deal. Don't buy them just because they say "no slip". All the shoes that are being discussed on this board are "no slip".

As for the actual topic, I train in both Feiyues and Tigers, and I can say they both rock. Tigers look a touch sexier and give a little more support, and the Feiyues are fabulously cheap and are really, really comfortable. Your call!
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Post by: Jordan Strybos on February 11, 2012, 11:06:19 AM
Some searching concluded that's pronounced something like fay-YWEH??? Haha. Kinda like the last name Yue.

Most of my friends who own them call them Fay-you's like Gabe said, but I have a few friends who swear to their death that it is Fay-you-ee...

Seems kind of similar to the Vibram/Veebram issue.
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Post by: Intern on February 11, 2012, 12:47:22 PM
My vote is for Feiyues. In chna town in dc they call them Fay-ways/fee-ways the pronunciation is half ways in between the two options for e first syllable with fee-way being slightly closer
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Adam McC on February 11, 2012, 07:26:31 PM
My vote is for Feiyues. In chna town in dc they call them Fay-ways/fee-ways the pronunciation is half ways in between the two options for e first syllable with fee-way being slightly closer

That's probably correct, but in America, we generally say "Fay-yous". So it only seems right, following the traditional American values of completely mutilating all aspects of language, to continue calling them Fay-yous.

:-P
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Anthony Hadouken on February 11, 2012, 10:59:35 PM
actually they are amazing Ive tried every kind of shoe i could find like 80$ asics all the way to skate shoes and, for me, they work the best but its your call, everybody is different, thus why i love PK
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Adam McC on February 12, 2012, 07:05:12 AM
actually they are amazing Ive tried every kind of shoe i could find like 80$ asics all the way to skate shoes and, for me, they work the best but its your call, everybody is different, thus why i love PK

Work the best in terms of what? Because speaking from the perspective of body mechanics and physics, they'd stop your foot from doing everything it's supposed to.
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Travis S on February 12, 2012, 09:56:13 AM
Work the best in terms of what? Because speaking from the perspective of body mechanics and physics, they'd stop your foot from doing everything it's supposed to.

QFT. Buy feiyues, then save up some cash and buy barefoot shoes.
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Anthony Hadouken on February 12, 2012, 11:07:56 AM
they are light, give my arches great support they take impact well, the sole is oil and slip resistant and a lot of other things, im just sayin they work for me, plus they are only like 25$ and they last long
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Travis S on February 12, 2012, 11:20:53 AM
give my arches great support they take impact well

These two reasons are why they've been advised against.
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Anthony Hadouken on February 12, 2012, 05:40:12 PM
whatever dude it doesnt matter your not gonna talk me out of it, just making a suggestion  ::)
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Conrad Moser on February 12, 2012, 10:21:26 PM
We're just saying, is all...supporting your arches and absorbing impact is weakening your feet.
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Anthony Hadouken on February 12, 2012, 11:15:31 PM
that makes no sense to me
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Post by: Stephen on February 13, 2012, 06:04:07 AM
We're just saying, is all...supporting your arches and absorbing impact is weakening your feet.

that makes no sense to me

Your shoes are doing too much of the work when you should be conditioning your feet and executing proper landing/impact distribution.
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Gabe Arnold on February 13, 2012, 02:37:34 PM
that makes no sense to me

http://www.americaspodiatrist.com/2009/10/the-top-3-ways-wearing-shoes-harms-our-feet-%E2%80%93-and-what-we-can-do-about-it/

1. Shoes Weaken Bones in Our Feet
2. Shoes Limit and Alter the Normal Motion of Our Feet
3. Shoes Deform Our Feet

http://naturalrunning.com/research-science/450-evidence-based-science

"The body of studies into the concept of shoe absorption has failed to confirm it as a reducer of skeletal stress."
"Constant protection of the foot through shock-absorbing structures of PECH (Pronation Control, Elevated Cushioned Heel) shoes causes less resistance to the stress of localized pressure. Weakening of foot tissue and barefoot sensitivity have been observed in patients."
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Post by: Nick Fernandez on February 13, 2012, 02:58:52 PM
So.....Feiyues all the way? I gotta get some
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Post by: Anthony Hadouken on February 13, 2012, 04:44:20 PM
yeah well have fun with that....
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: gravity on February 14, 2012, 04:34:55 PM
actually they are amazing Ive tried every kind of shoe i could find like 80$ asics all the way to skate shoes and, for me, they work the best but its your call, everybody is different, thus why i love PK
do me a favor and look up the benefits of barefoot running
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Anthony Hadouken on February 14, 2012, 07:53:27 PM
nah dude ill keep my shoes on thank you, just cuz thats how you guys train doesnt mean thats the only way to do it....everybody is different
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: gravity on February 15, 2012, 12:16:57 AM
nah dude ill keep my shoes on thank you, just cuz thats how you guys train doesnt mean thats the only way to do it....everybody is different

im not saying you have to change at all just please check it out it can't hurt to be well informed and feiyues are only 15$
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Jade on February 15, 2012, 06:17:13 AM
Okay, I'm officially confused. I thought shock absorbing qualities were good for your feet and joints, but now they're not?  ???
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Post by: Ryan Sannar on February 15, 2012, 09:15:42 AM
Common misconception. Think of the added shock absorbing stuff in shoes like machine weights in the gym.

IE: With the bench press. If you work bench pressing on a machine you specifically isolate and use only your triceps and your chest. The problem with this is that when you are doing an actually bench press you use your back, your neck, your abs, etc... including all of the stabilization muscles. With a locked in machine press there is nothing to stabilize so those muscles go stagnant. Same thing is true of added shock absorbtion and padding in shoes. Then allow you to take bigger drops than your stabilizing tendons can handle.
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Post by: Alec Furtado on February 15, 2012, 02:54:43 PM
nah dude ill keep my shoes on thank you, just cuz thats how you guys train doesn't mean thats the only way to do it....everybody is different
Anthony, no. The science is not wrong. You are wrong. It is actually possible to be wrong in this world, despite what so many PC people like to think.

You can do whatever you like, but them's the facts. You can also smoke and/or eat tons of sugar. I personally won't judge you for it, though I'd advise against it. I'd still train with you, I'd still invite you over to my house, we'd still be friends. But that doesn't make high arch, high heel-rise shoes not destructive to your foot mechanics and, by extension, your body mechanics. (You don't have to respond to this... you're still a traceur, we still love you, etc., but just understand what the situation is :P )

Okay, I'm officially confused. I thought shock absorbing qualities were good for your feet and joints, but now they're not?  ???
Jade, read the articles Gabe Arnold linked to in his post above.


As far as I know, however, there is still an argument to be made about running on pavement and concrete. I've made an effort to only do barefoot training on soft terrain and love it, but too much time on hard surfaces can make my feet hurt. Still, zero-rise shoes are the way to go (there is no different in thickness in the forefoot of the sole vs the heel of the sole).
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Post by: Anthony Hadouken on February 15, 2012, 03:58:09 PM
Anthony, no. The science is not wrong. You are wrong. It is actually possible to be wrong in this world, despite what so many PC people like to think.

You can do whatever you like, but them's the facts. You can also smoke and/or eat tons of sugar. I personally won't judge you for it, though I'd advise against it. I'd still train with you, I'd still invite you over to my house, we'd still be friends. But that doesn't make high arch, high heel-rise shoes not destructive to your foot mechanics and, by extension, your body mechanics. (You don't have to respond to this... you're still a traceur, we still love you, etc., but just understand what the situation is :P )
Jade, read the articles Gabe Arnold linked to in his post above.

well that may be, but i live in a town that is over run with junkies who leave needles everywhere, and im not trying to get hep c so i'll keep my shoes on, ive looked into it, and i just dont think it would make that big of a difference for me personally. (oh and im not sure why but you saying i dont have to reply made it impossible for me not to hahahaha)
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Post by: gravity on February 15, 2012, 04:42:32 PM
you don't need to be completely barefoot there are shoes that let your feet do what there naturally supposed to such as (http://www.sportzform.co.uk/cw2/assets/product_full/neo-yellow-lge.jpg) and there is always feiyues (https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR3MhGieZIWuMXo3wTh07lXC4uIbNyINUQXxgs1-4RTGjLsVzFm)
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Post by: Nick Fernandez on February 15, 2012, 05:45:59 PM
Anthony, no. The science is not wrong. You are wrong. It is actually possible to be wrong in this world, despite what so many PC people like to think.

You can do whatever you like, but them's the facts. You can also smoke and/or eat tons of sugar. I personally won't judge you for it, though I'd advise against it. I'd still train with you, I'd still invite you over to my house, we'd still be friends. But that doesn't make high arch, high heel-rise shoes not destructive to your foot mechanics and, by extension, your body mechanics. (You don't have to respond to this... you're still a traceur, we still love you, etc., but just understand what the situation is :P )

Don't think you could've said it any better :).

Anthony, you're right about how everyone is different and different things work for different people, but that doesn't really apply here when people know for a fact that what they're saying about your shoes is true. Sure, I agree with you one hundred percent that not everyone does everything the same way, but what they're trying to say is that there's a better way which you neither have to follow or agree with, although your shoes will not be beneficial in the long run.

And about the needles......keep your shoes on. But how thick your shoes are probably won't make a difference. If they're actual needles they'll probably be long enough to penetrate any shoes. This thread is also about efficient, non-costly parkour shoes and you have your answer ^ right there.
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Post by: Anthony Hadouken on February 15, 2012, 05:50:24 PM
understood
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Post by: Nick Fernandez on February 24, 2012, 10:16:49 PM
One thing that I do not like about Feiyue's is the way people look & comments, and the way some other traceurs talk. One guy mocked me making "Ninja" & Asian jokes about them/me. Needless to say I will not be training with him if he is going to talk and act like that, /rant.


Whaaaat?

People will find ANYTHING to make fun of. I'm surprised they can find a way to tease Feiyues. They look like Converse ffs. But don't just walk away from one of your friends just because he makes Asian jokes. Make sure you've at least told him you don't appreciate the jokes. I noticed with pretty much everyone I know can be stereotypical like that, including me, without noticing sometimes. After all, it's a joke. But if he understands that it's bugging you and continues to do it, make an even better joke and poke his eye out with a chopstick  :-Sarcasm or better yet, 540 kick him with your Feiyues on.

My first Feiyues are due to arrive next week, and if they work out that will probably be the only type of shoes I will wear for the rest of my life.
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Post by: Anthony Hadouken on February 24, 2012, 10:27:31 PM
i resend my entire argument, since i built my own obstacles in my back yard, ive been training barefoot cuz its grass and there isnt much to hurt my feet, but in the urban setting i still like my shoes
soooo.....
I WAS WRONG!!

LOL
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Post by: Hunter Grant on February 29, 2012, 04:11:51 AM
I haven't had a chance to pressure test them yet but the Saucony Bullets (http://www.sneakerhead.com/saucony-bullet-running-shoes-294338.html) are feeling amazing.

(http://www.sportsbasement.com/istarimages/p/p-1943-33-S10!SAUCO.jpg)

Dont they feel like they slide around alot? They work...But how long will the traction last and I felt kinda out of control while sprinting in them.
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Post by: UWin on March 09, 2012, 08:51:18 PM
i resend my entire argument, since i built my own obstacles in my back yard, ive been training barefoot cuz its grass and there isnt much to hurt my feet, but in the urban setting i still like my shoes
soooo.....
I WAS WRONG!!

LOL
So yeah...now I get to do this...

I WAS WRONG!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW7hZlxlTlo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkq1X9IuXps
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Nick Fernandez on March 09, 2012, 09:11:34 PM
Undeclared Winner, I got a totally different reaction from my Feiyues than you did :P.

A lot of people thought they were really cool-looking shoes (although any white shoes pop out anyway) and one guy who claims he does parkour actually immediately asked if they were my "parkour shoes". He ended up ordering some the same night lol.

I haven't even used them for parkour yet but I still suggest that anyone who has ~$25 to spare should try a pair. They're really comfortable with an extra 2-3mm in the heel/ankle area so it makes them easy to slip on and off. They have never fallen off by accident though, so it makes for a pair of shoes that you forget you have on. /review
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Post by: Justin on March 10, 2012, 09:12:36 AM
Ive trained in tigers for about a year and my insoles started falling apart under the balls of my feet, resulting in some serious leg pain that I had to take about 3 weeks off to remedy, I ripped the insoles out of them to extend their life but its just not the same

just ordered some aqualites so ill post up a review of those once I use them for a while, for sure they arent in the low price demographic though

also, those bullets look just like tigers with different tread
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Luke Tate on March 14, 2012, 08:45:34 AM
Glad my post helped clear some things out for people ^^
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Alec Reduker on March 20, 2012, 12:04:20 PM
Ok, those Saucony's back there looked absolutely BOSS, I wish I didn't just get new shoes, they look craaaazy good.
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Nazar h on March 21, 2012, 05:29:29 PM
i had the saucony's for a while, but i hated them because i thought that the grip was terrible on rails and below average on walls
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Post by: Crosion_5 on March 24, 2012, 01:19:04 AM
I love sauconys  :)  They wear out quickly though ...
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Post by: Nazar h on March 26, 2012, 02:44:29 PM
I love sauconys  :)  They wear out quickly though ...

i had the exact opposite experience as you i hated mine but they wouldnt die out on me
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Post by: Crosion_5 on March 27, 2012, 03:21:47 AM
i had the exact opposite experience as you i hated mine but they wouldnt die out on me

Haha!  They do have lots of different shoes.
Title: Re: -Efficient Non-Costly Freerunning/Parkour Shoes-
Post by: Gabe Arnold on March 31, 2012, 08:45:42 PM
Dont they feel like they slide around alot? They work...But how long will the traction last and I felt kinda out of control while sprinting in them.

They slide around a little more than other, more structured shoes but not enough to make me use something else. The feel I get from the ground and the light weight make up for the looser feel. And I haven't had a problem with grip yet, I actually just ran the American Ninja Warrior course in these and they performed great.