Topic: #pull ups = Climb up?

[AN D]

Hey guys i was would about how many pull ups do you need to be able to do to do a climb up? I know there is no magic number but just an estimate would be appreciated :-)
-Andy

[Stav Bendor]

my guess is that it varies from person to person, but personally i can only do about 10 pull ups and i recently began doing climb ups relatively correctly. I think what you need to do is get out and start trying climb ups on some low wall along with doing pull ups

[Andy Animus Tran]

I find that there's not really a ratio between the two.  I would argue that the dip is the more important part of the climb-up, as it is relatively easy to pull up into the dip position when you're in the climb-up...  But I do notice that that's also where most people have a lot of trouble, so I don't know.

[Slanti]

Climb-up as in Muscle-up?

In can do around 16-20 pull-ups but I still can't do a muscle-up.I think I'm able to do one but I just don't have the proper technique for it.

[Stav Bendor]

climb ups as in on a wall (easier than muscle up due to use of feet on wall)

Demon's Drill
http://www.americanparkour.com/content/view/883/324/

[Steven Low]

If you have good technique more or less 1. I wouldn't look at anything this way though. Basically look at it like the stronger you are the easier it is.

[Ryan Ford]

Climb ups are about 50% strength and 50% technique. I think you could have someone do a climb up with perfect technique and can only do 5-10 pull ups. You could also have someone with 25 pull ups who can't do a climb up because they don't have the technique.

Animus, I disagree on the dip part. The hardest part of a muscle up or a climb up for most people is the transition from pull up to dip. This mainly comes from your lats and triceps whereas dips are mainly chest.

[AN D]

ok thanks guys! 

[Andy Animus Tran]

Climb ups are about 50% strength and 50% technique. I think you could have someone do a climb up with perfect technique and can only do 5-10 pull ups. You could also have someone with 25 pull ups who can't do a climb up because they don't have the technique.

Animus, I disagree on the dip part. The hardest part of a muscle up or a climb up for most people is the transition from pull up to dip. This mainly comes from your lats and triceps whereas dips are mainly chest.

Yeah, I figured as much.  I speak from my own experience, though, with my dips being a bit sloppier than my pull-ups.  The transition for me is the easiest part of the climb-up...  The dip can be simple or a bit of a struggle depending on outside and internal influences, but I've never had a problem with the transition.  However, fully realized that I'm a bit of an anomaly and the people that I have taught and trained with definitely have more trouble with the transition.

[Steven Low]

Animus, I disagree on the dip part. The hardest part of a muscle up or a climb up for most people is the transition from pull up to dip. [/b]This mainly comes from your lats and triceps whereas dips are mainly chest.[/b]

lol Demon.

Let's revise that to the climb up transition is mainly a rowing movement (shoulder extension) at the edge of the range of motion whereas the dip is mainly triceps and chest.

Still right that the transition is the hardest part methinks.

[AN D]

o sweet so rowing would help a lot? because there is a rowing machine at this community center I go to exercise and I've been using the rowing machines a lot lately.

also ive noticed that the inside side of my elbow had started to hurt a lot when I am doing cats and pull ups. Is there any exercise I could do that would strengthen this are or is taking a rest the only thing I can do?

Thanks a lot guys for all the help :-)

-Andy

[Steven Low]

o sweet so rowing would help a lot? because there is a rowing machine at this community center I go to exercise and I've been using the rowing machines a lot lately.

It's only the very last edge of the row from where your elbows are next to your body shoving them out behind you to bring your hands next to the body. This is best done with heavy weight.. not a rowing machine although I guess you could if you wanted to but with a rowing machine you need to focus on moving it as fast as you can rather than just rowing regularly.

also ive noticed that the inside side of my elbow had started to hurt a lot when I am doing cats and pull ups. Is there any exercise I could do that would strengthen this are or is taking a rest the only thing I can do?

Thanks a lot guys for all the help :-)

-Andy

Seems like medial epicondylitis... aka tendonitis of the elbow, golfers elbow, tennis elbow, etc. Rest and ice after you do anything. Best to rest now.. aggravate it and you may be out for weeks or even months.