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Parkour "The New Fitness Craze"
« on: November 09, 2007, 08:43:21 PM »
So I had the TV on in the background and I hear something that catches my attention. "Parkour, the new fitness craze?" I hope that was just a bad dream.  I'm going back to sleep.

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Re: Parkour "The New Fitness Craze"
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2007, 10:30:41 PM »
whats so bad about that?

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Re: Parkour "The New Fitness Craze"
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2007, 03:17:24 AM »
That's what happened in the UK for sure, and I think it's a good thing.
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Re: Parkour "The New Fitness Craze"
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2007, 08:39:34 AM »
It can be a good thing or it can be a bad thing. It all depends how its represented and how people take it.

Although generally when a mass amount of people start doing the same thing it is changed forever. And i think parkour should stay the same.
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Re: Parkour "The New Fitness Craze"
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2007, 10:34:04 AM »
You're right perception is key. I have to say it just caught me off guard. Maybe just being a little over protective. Just out of curiosity, if anyone has seen something similar with a positive perspective, please post. - Thx

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Re: Parkour "The New Fitness Craze"
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2007, 09:45:54 PM »
well, i looked up "parkour"  on google news a while ago and unfortunately all the articles on parkour are negative.  it's usually the being on the roof part that gets ppl angry.  personally i really don't see what's wrong with someone being on a roof, i mean if their up their for fun most ppl will be careful.

i think we should start talking to ppl who own businesses and ask them roof access and stuff like that so we don't have  to deal with getting in trouble...

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Re: Parkour "The New Fitness Craze"
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2007, 09:51:11 PM »
or we could just stay off rooftops in general. no reason to go up there anyway.

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Re: Parkour "The New Fitness Craze"
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2007, 03:44:18 PM »
u know, although there's stuff to do on the ground rooves make doing the same things a lot more fun...

also, jumping off a relatively low roof can make your feet strong which is really helpful for other stuff...

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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2007, 04:57:42 PM »
Yeah Demon's right... even if you ARE landing with correct form AND a roll, it's still causing harm to yourself, even if it is very minute... and there's not much you can do on a roof except jump off it, unless you're just using the objects on top of it (vents etc.), but there are always better things on the ground...

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Re: Parkour "The New Fitness Craze"
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2007, 05:59:53 PM »
do u know about a certain group of monks in china that can punch through walls, hang themselves, and take incredible impact without getting hurt...  and it's all because they punch walls repeatedly and hang themselves a little at a time and eventually their bones get so strong that they won't hurt themselves at all. 

it's cool and so that's why i jump off of high stuff, so that the bones in my feet are strong enough for a good sized impact...

but true of course there's tons of stuff to do at ground lvl and that's where we all stay most of the time.  just saying that rooves and buildings are fun as well...

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Re: Parkour "The New Fitness Craze"
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2007, 07:15:35 PM »
The key term here to remember is G R A D U A L  progression. You should spend at least a year doing ground level training before you start training jumps from height. You body needs time to adjust, and ground level has plenty of impact to condition your bones, muscles and tendons. Maybe after a good solid six months of regular training, you can start training intermediate heights between chest and head height, remaining there for the next six months to finish off your fist year. That is the route I am following personally. I know I can jump from a 12 foot drop, but I refrain from doing so because I don't want to cause long term damage to my body. I am just beginning to train shoulder height jumps on a regular basis, and plan to go no higher than head height for the rest of my first year of training. This is from following the advice given by first generation European traceurs, and they know best because of their many years of experience.

I am positive your Chinese monks follow a similar course of gradual progression. I know that because I have read many books about the stages of training they go through to develop things like the Iron Fist technique. They start out punching sand, and then small gravel, and then larger gravel, and then small iron balls, so on and so forth until they can punch through bricks. They work long and hard. They didn't start training by punching bricks, they started with sand. That is actually what makes parkour similar to martial arts.. that particular methodology of training is what makes it a discipline.
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Re: Parkour "The New Fitness Craze"
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2007, 10:11:52 PM »
The key term here to remember is G R A D U A L  progression. You should spend at least a year doing ground level training before you start training jumps from height. You body needs time to adjust, and ground level has plenty of impact to condition your bones, muscles and tendons. Maybe after a good solid six months of regular training, you can start training intermediate heights between chest and head height, remaining there for the next six months to finish off your fist year. That is the route I am following personally. I know I can jump from a 12 foot drop, but I refrain from doing so because I don't want to cause long term damage to my body. I am just beginning to train shoulder height jumps on a regular basis, and plan to go no higher than head height for the rest of my first year of training. This is from following the advice given by first generation European traceurs, and they know best because of their many years of experience.

I am positive your Chinese monks follow a similar course of gradual progression. I know that because I have read many books about the stages of training they go through to develop things like the Iron Fist technique. They start out punching sand, and then small gravel, and then larger gravel, and then small iron balls, so on and so forth until they can punch through bricks. They work long and hard. They didn't start training by punching bricks, they started with sand. That is actually what makes parkour similar to martial arts.. that particular methodology of training is what makes it a discipline.

Great information, and exactly the point I was making on the original topic of this thread. When you want to learn a new move, where do you go? Who do you ask? You depend on a reliable source. You do so because this is a tight knit community of people that are passionate about PK? If someone asks me a PK related question, I direct them to this site because I know the information they get will be reliable and straight from the source. Also because the motivation stems from a community that cares about how PK is represented. I'm not going to rely on a source that's soul purpose is to report on the latest happenings of Brangelina, TomKat or whoever. I don't believe a source like that truly cares about how PK is represented. 

Now go hit that sand ;D

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Re: Parkour "The New Fitness Craze"
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2007, 03:59:33 PM »
do u know about a certain group of monks in china that can punch through walls, hang themselves, and take incredible impact without getting hurt...  and it's all because they punch walls repeatedly and hang themselves a little at a time and eventually their bones get so strong that they won't hurt themselves at all. 

it's cool and so that's why i jump off of high stuff, so that the bones in my feet are strong enough for a good sized impact...

but true of course there's tons of stuff to do at ground lvl and that's where we all stay most of the time.  just saying that rooves and buildings are fun as well...

i now petition that man who cannot spell roofs must stay off them.
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Re: Parkour "The New Fitness Craze"
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2007, 04:41:48 PM »
This is a very good thing, now all of society will see how much more training we do for Parkour, more than most kids in high school sports that's fo sho! I mean thanks to this I am in the best shape of my life, because Parkour motivates me to keep in shape and improve.
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Re: Parkour "The New Fitness Craze"
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2007, 11:25:14 PM »
While the physical training is often the spotlight of parkour stories, whether it be negative or positive, it seems that the mental side has almost been completely neglected. To me the physical fitness part is an accompaniment to the training of the mind but it seems that if this "fitness craze" is portrayed as such people may forget that sure parkour can be fun, and yes its very physical, but parkour is inherently a physical philosophy, was developed as such for developing of the body yes, but the mind moreso than anything. but maybe thats just my thoughts.

and whoever said that rooftops are fun and gave the reason for helping strengthen his feet or whatever is just trying to make excuses for behavior it seems, sure they help overcome big mental blocks but there is WAY more not on rooftops to say that is a reason, the only thing that they may be good for is overcoming mental blocks and an adrenaline rush.  when done it should never be called parkour since more often than not you aren't trained enough, are trespassing, and just generally don't even have the right idea in my eyes.

apologies if I sound harsh, its not meant that way, just expressing my opinion, I feel we are neglecting a lot of the ideals in parkour or at least not making them known publicly. maybe they are just my ideals, who knows.

 
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Re: Parkour "The New Fitness Craze"
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2007, 04:11:47 AM »
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« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2007, 07:06:17 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2008, 08:07:38 PM »
While the physical training is often the spotlight of parkour stories, whether it be negative or positive, it seems that the mental side has almost been completely neglected. To me the physical fitness part is an accompaniment to the training of the mind but it seems that if this "fitness craze" is portrayed as such people may forget that sure parkour can be fun, and yes its very physical, but parkour is inherently a physical philosophy, was developed as such for developing of the body yes, but the mind moreso than anything. but maybe thats just my thoughts.

and whoever said that rooftops are fun and gave the reason for helping strengthen his feet or whatever is just trying to make excuses for behavior it seems, sure they help overcome big mental blocks but there is WAY more not on rooftops to say that is a reason, the only thing that they may be good for is overcoming mental blocks and an adrenaline rush.  when done it should never be called parkour since more often than not you aren't trained enough, are trespassing, and just generally don't even have the right idea in my eyes.

apologies if I sound harsh, its not meant that way, just expressing my opinion, I feel we are neglecting a lot of the ideals in parkour or at least not making them known publicly. maybe they are just my ideals, who knows.

 


I agree with you one hundred percent. I remember, before i even knew there was a thing such as parkour, there was one night where the college life was really getting to me. nothing was working out and i was totally stressed. I started by taking a walk and listening to music. Eventually, I started to sprint [even though it was 1 or 2 in the morning im sure i got some strange looks by the other nocturnal students but hey, I had a hood on so i wouldn't have even noticed if they were there], I got to the point where I didn't want to let anything hold me back so I started climbing all the walls, vaulting rails, whatever because it made me feel free, soon after, I saw some parkour videos and thought this is it. But I've only been training for a week now but the philisophical aspect seems important to me. Also, I don't really believe in jumping off buildings since I don't believe it trains you for real situations anyway. How many times are you gonna be on a rooftop?

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Re: Parkour "The New Fitness Craze"
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2008, 08:06:03 PM »
that depends, if u're a workman, u'll be a rooves a lot...  also, jumping off roofs doesn't just have to do with roofs, it trains u for any long fall...  and in fact, i'm very glad that i've practiced falling a long way, because i was on a woodland trail and the platform (made of wood) broke and i fell quite a bit.  if i hadn't practiced falling i could have broken something... =)  so no offense but jumping from rooves does have bit of usefulness...

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« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2008, 09:38:28 PM »
True, I guess I was a bit rash to discredit roof training completely. But I would say, and I think you'd agree with me, that it should definitely be something built up to, and even then treated carefully, as a screw up could be disastrous.