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Parkour as a culture
« on: October 15, 2007, 10:28:13 PM »
Hi guys ;D
First-timer is here. I knew parkour just recently, when I stumped upon a youtube video. It's pretty amazing, so I googled about it for a while and jumped to this forum.
Anyway, it's not the main topic. I'm a student, and in my English class, we were assigned to write about a sub-culture. And the first thing came to my mind is "parkour." I already did a little research online. But I think a list of questions would provide more useful information.
So here it is:

1) How old is parkour? ;D OK, maybe just parkour in America. Is there any event or is it a smooth transition of American pakour group? anyone knows?

2) I assume it's pretty obvious, but is there any girl here? ;D I'm just kidding (I saw the "Women" sub-forum), if any of this "special group" ;D wants to share some thoughts about parkour, I would be much appreciated ;)

3) Where do you often go to practice? Is there any commonplace that the groups meet?

4) From my noobie perspective, parkour culture is quite similar to skateboard's one: it develops on streets, mostly young men... Is that right?

5) About you guys, what is your occupation? (students, martial art, body training, related fields, I guess?) Because parkour is not easy. So maybe only people of some specific fields are able to do this?
What's you guys' age range?

6) What do you like about parkour?

7)The last one, if anyone has a special moment, a moment that made you choose parkour, or a moment that changed the way you think about it? It would be very beneficial to my research.

I don't have a chance to really meet a parkour group, so I have to ask a lot of questions. Hope you don't mind ::)
And sorry for my English. It's not my mother tongue :P

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Re: Parkour as a culture
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2007, 05:17:46 AM »
You're english is fine. :)

1) I don't know about the exact date, if there really is one, but I'd say early to mid 80s.

2) Yes, and there are more and more every day. It's a very under-represented group, and we're constantly trying to attract new women to Parkour. There are quite a few who are REALLY good, too. Offhand, I can think of a Girls-Only Toronto jam video, and a video of few girls from Mexico who are incredible.

3) I find schools work well. Colleges, community college. But truly, you can train anywhere. If it isn't a completely flat parking lot, there's something you can find there.

4) It's somewhat similar to early skateboarding culture. The comparison has been made before. We're definitely trying to NOT head towards current skateboarding culture, which is seems to be based entirely around big moves, sponsorships, and commercialism. (Some would say we're already there, others, including myself, disagree.) It is, like I said in #2, primarily young men. But we also have older men, young and older women, and everyone in between, and we're a very open, accepting, inclusive community.

5) A lot of us are students, just because of the age demographic Parkour tends to lend itself to. I, myself, go to college (was a Computer Science major, now Criminal Justice/CS minor). I have also been a martial artist for about 8 years, I've been running for a while, I rock climb, and I've just started doing gymnastics as well.

6) Everything. The feeling of freedom you get when you walk down the street, glance at something and say to youself "I could get over/through/under that." I love how the skin on my hands has toughened and how it doesn't really get cut up as much anymore. I love the fact that my body is not pretty and well preserved, but hard and rugged, with minor cuts and scraps everywhere. I love the inability to move the next day after a long and hard training session. Most of all, I love the people. At a single jam, I've trained with people coming from all income brackets, all types of families, a wide range of ages, with different nationalities and professions and interests. But Parkour makes us blind to all of that. People I would never meet or hang out with, just because we didn't have anything in common or we had no reason to meet, I have met and become instant friends with. We are not black or white, we are not American or Canadian, we are not rich or poor, students or employees. We are Traceurs.

7) I was talking about this with my roommate, and I told him "I've had a major revelation, been inspired to redouble how hard I train, everytime I meet up with the NYC Traceurs." That entire area is full of people who are so talented and dedicated, everytime I meet with them I see how they train, how they think, and it really inspires me to train (and keep training) harder than before.

Other than that, I'd say a few other defining moments were when I first heard certain quotes. First, when I watched Blane's "Power is Nothing Without Control." That quote has become my personal motto. I have been weaving it into my life, as well as into my parkour training. When I teach Taekwondo, I teach this. When I train Parkour, I teach and practice this philosophy. The other quote is "A bad traceur drills a technique until he gets it right. A good traceur drills a technique until he cannot get it wrong." I don't know who said it, but they are so right.

So... I hope that was good. Any further questions, just let me know.

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Re: Parkour as a culture
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2007, 05:27:43 AM »
7) I was talking about this with my roommate, and I told him "I've had a major revelation, been inspired to redouble how hard I train, everytime I meet up with the NYC Traceurs." That entire area is full of people who are so talented and dedicated, everytime I meet with them I see how they train, how they think, and it really inspires me to train (and keep training) harder than before.

I am right there with you on that one. After training with those guys in NY/NJ, we doubled out training times at OSUPK to six days per week.
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Re: Parkour as a culture
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2007, 07:00:19 AM »
i'd say 10 is lowest age.

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Re: Parkour as a culture
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2007, 07:03:18 AM »
My son Anwar trains with me during every single session I attend. He is 5 years old. His training is more like playing, but none the less, he tries to imitate everything we do, and when he does something new, he asks me if it is parkour or not.
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Re: Parkour as a culture
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2007, 08:06:54 AM »
That's adorable. :D

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Re: Parkour as a culture
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2007, 03:31:55 PM »
I could probably go on for awhile about Parkour as a culture (cultural studies major), buuut... I'm not gonna.  Let's just say we have a good culture.  :)
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Re: Parkour as a culture
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2007, 04:06:50 PM »
Thanks, happydud, it's very helpful ;D
I could probably go on for awhile about Parkour as a culture (cultural studies major), buuut... I'm not gonna.  Let's just say we have a good culture.  :)
Oh man ;D

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Re: Parkour as a culture
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2007, 05:15:33 PM »
I could probably go on for awhile about Parkour as a culture (cultural studies major), buuut... I'm not gonna.  Let's just say we have a good culture.  :)

Please go on, Animus! I enjoy your perspectives on culture a great deal!

To answer the questions in the first post:

1. Check out the Wikipedia article on parkour for a good starting point.

2. I am a traceuse and I am working very hard to bring more women into this discipline. I think there is a lot more to it that women can benefit from that they may not always see right away because the youtube videos and such make it look like such a "guy" thing. I do think it intimidates a lot of women and that's sad. I do feel a sense of pride being a traceuse, as it's not something most women do. I also feel a sense of pride because I believe my parkour group is one of the few groups started by a woman (I don't know enough about this to be sure though). I think parkour is amazing for building confidence and self-assurance. It has helped me immensely on a mental level as well as a physical. I am sort of on a personal mission to get more women into parkour.

3. We meet downtown or on our college campus. We also meet at a local gym for indoor training, and occasionally at playgrounds or natural areas.

4. I would say that is similar; however one distinct difference that I've noticed is that while skateboarding seems to be blatantly "anti-establishment," parkour is differently so. Parkour is "anti-establishment" insofar as it encourages out-of-the-box thinking; rejecting modern-cum-traditional ways of moving through an environment for more natural means, breaking boundaries, etc. However I have found that parkour attempts to do this through example and through a respect for the environment, and I have not seen this with skateboarding. Animus would have more to say on this, and would say it better; due to his academic background; as would Muhammed, seeing as he skates also (or at least used to). But that is how I see it.

5. Age 32, female; former translation professional, now high school and middle school French and Spanish teacher. Also professional ballet dancer and dance teacher for a local ballet company.

6. Everything. Most especially the amazing community.

7. Hm. Hard to say. It sort of happened gradually for me; I kept encountering it here and there, couldn't get it out of my head, couldn't stop thinking about it. Finally I decided, "I have to do this!" and did my research and wound up here. That got me started. However the Chicago jam and the COPK jam this past summer both really rearranged my molecular structure. Both experienced changed my life forever, and I can't really say why or how. All I know is I have a hard time imagining my life without parkour.
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Re: Parkour as a culture
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2007, 05:31:28 PM »
i'd say 10 is lowest age.

nobody below 13 should do parkour it could be damaging and most people 14-16 should seriously condiser waiting. (me included)

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Re: Parkour as a culture
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2007, 05:35:24 PM »
ADD: At least they shouldnt do serious stressful, what muhammed described seemed like it wont hurt the child but like what the 12 year old kid does in the vid. is bad and probably will hurt him

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Re: Parkour as a culture
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2007, 06:35:52 PM »
yeah, maybe you guys should do what I did and wait until you're 33 to start training for parkour ;p...........
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Re: Parkour as a culture
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2007, 06:42:11 PM »
why wait? Do it while you're young, bones heal faster, and you have much more time in your life to do parkour.

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Re: Parkour as a culture
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2007, 06:45:29 PM »
hilltop, you didn't eat any lead paint recently did you?
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Re: Parkour as a culture
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2007, 07:15:16 PM »
Um I don't think so....I'll check

But as seen as in Jump Westminster, young kids can handle parkour. :)

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Re: Parkour as a culture
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2007, 07:17:00 PM »
kiddie parkour is good for the kiddies. it makes them healthy.
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Re: Parkour as a culture
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2007, 07:18:58 PM »
kiddie parkour is good for the kiddies. it makes them healthy.
Um I don't think so....I'll check

But as seen as in Jump Westminster, young kids can handle parkour. :)

I hope you didn't eat any lead paint chips. Anyway, I was just being sarcastic in  a non-serious manner :)

I wish I had known about parkour when I was just a kid. That would have been really cool.
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Re: Parkour as a culture
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2007, 07:24:54 PM »
well lead paint could hurt me dearly....so I hope I didn't ingest it.

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Re: Parkour as a culture
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2007, 08:16:08 PM »
1) About 20 years.

2) No, parkour is only for masculine hairy big machos like me. Muhahah 8)

3) Specifically parkour: park. Preparation for parkour (most
of the time): streets, gym.

4) No. Parkour develops from the internet, as far as I see. Most of the people I meet
who are doing parkour are CS majors :))

5) I'm a student seeking mathematics major and software development intern.

6) It gives me speed and ability to fly without wings.

7) Yes. I was a very slow runner and some day after practices I
felt completely different about running. It was like a revelation. My legs weren't hurting
when I ran and so I started to like running and then parkour.
Which is just an advanced version of running, in my opinion.
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Re: Parkour as a culture
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2007, 08:39:27 PM »
My son Anwar trains with me during every single session I attend. He is 5 years old. His training is more like playing, but none the less, he tries to imitate everything we do, and when he does something new, he asks me if it is parkour or not.

I got to play with our CC assistant coach's son today after our meet...he was really cool, he watched a few speeds and precisions and was saying "wow" a bunch :P he's maybe 4. My friend and I were both jumping when he told us to :) it was fun.
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