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Tips to Give New Traceurs In School Clubs
« on: August 29, 2007, 08:33:54 PM »
I'm starting a club at my school and I just wanted to know the basic precautions and guide lines to give the totally new traceurs joining??
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Re: Tips to Give New Traceurs In School Clubs
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2007, 10:08:56 PM »
I think we have like five threads on this topic now. Maybe I will cross post this to all them and get it all linked together.

There's a ton-o-information talking about that particular subject right here: http://www.americanparkour.com/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,159/topic,5823.0/
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Re: Tips to Give New Traceurs In School Clubs
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2007, 04:43:54 AM »
I'm starting a club at my school and I just wanted to know the basic precautions and guide lines to give the totally new traceurs joining??

Thats sick Patrick I've actually been thinking about doing the same thing.

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Re: Tips to Give New Traceurs In School Clubs
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2007, 06:45:30 PM »
I got bad news on it today, with da club the activities refused it because they regarded Parkour as doing dangerous high level tricks, (Free running), so this very  moment I am writing a two page paper on the whole misunderstanding and how parkour is totally diff. from what they have no clue about, pain in the ass. :P >:(
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Re: Tips to Give New Traceurs In School Clubs
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2007, 06:48:10 PM »
I'm starting a club at my school and I just wanted to know the basic precautions and guide lines to give the totally new traceurs joining??

Thats sick Patrick I've actually been thinking about doing the same thing.

Here is what I wrote about the Parkour club to give them an understanding Sat, u can use parts to send to ur school if u want-

Hello Mrs. Stordeur, this is Patrick Holten, I came in today to try and start a Parkour club, not a Free Running club, which was my regretful mistake.  I was just thinking it over and I am sorry for you inconvenience but I just didn't really sell it to you or even show you the video of it I had in my backpack, because I was so let down at the news you shared with me, so hopefully this will clear everything up for you and will make up for my lack of information I told you today.
   
    Now I know today that you said you knew what the sport of Free Running was; I presume because of the flips you have seen men do on TV and stuff.  However less than 9/10 people couldn't tell you what the discipline of Parkour which is what I do, actually is, being totally different from Free Running. Most people associate Free Running with the huge flips you see men do off of 12 foot walls, or jump off of buildings for fun, so it has made a bad reputation for itself, being seen as reckless or being just for the adrenaline rush.  In Free Running all you have to be able to do is a simple flip, or jumping from height, which many people can do. However many people are not dedicated enough to take on Parkour which in and of itself is a discipline like martial arts and dance. Free Running is just regarded as a hobby or sport if you will.

    But Parkour is almost 100% different from Free Running, but is were spawned from each other. Parkour, sometimes called, "The Art of Movement, or Displacement", is the art of clearing all obstacles in their path in the most fluid like manner possible. From point A to point B and back, you might say, as efficiently and effortlessly as possible, using only the abilities of the human body. Parkour is a physical activity which is difficult to categorize, some say it is like skateboarding just without the board but that is still very very far from what it is. It is not an extreme sport, but an art or discipline that resembles self-defense in the martial arts. It is often said that parkour is in its own category: "parkour is parkour." Each obstacle a traceur faces presents a unique challenge on how they can overcome it effectively, which depends on the, speed and angle of approach, the physical make-up of the obstacle, etc. Parkour is about training the body and mind to be able to react to those obstacles appropriately with a technique that works.  Just like how like a traceur clears obstacles and challenges in Parkour, and in life people also try to combat their problems and challenges. However in the discipline it may be less difficult to overcome ones doubts and fears, and then one can re-apply the same mindset as in Parkour to life.

    For Parkour one must have a strong mind and body, and through Parkour it strengthens both. Because of Parkour, today I am in the best shape of my life.  What most people don't know is that the majority of the stuff we do is conditioning, because to excel in the disciple is through repetition and yes conditioning. So for the club first semester we will spend doing mostly conditioning combined with the basic movements, and second semester the same  thing but more focused on honing members person technique.  My whole summer I spent in Boulder, CO in a Parkour school and we spent 85% of the time conditioning, and running, they also taught me all the precautions and training methods.  So in this club daily we would do various exercises, such as running, stretching, and conditioning (building muscle memory and muscle mass).  Other than that for the club all we really need is a mat, which we already have and a box or low object to vault (to pass over an object especially with the use of the hands) and a narrow object to balance on.  And I remember you said today that the club will encourage the members to go out and hurt themselves, but the members who are joining have been training for years with me in a supervised gymnastics facility, where we are safe with pads and foam.  So when we practice the moves for the first time we will regularly meet at a gymnastics center as a club every Saturday, for all members even experienced ones.

    Along with the whole insurance and safety issue, is one point, the high majority of the things we do it at ground level, so if we do mess up we only fall  two feet if at all, so like I was saying before it is not at all a reckless or extreme sport. As of now Cheer leading is ranked as the most dangerous sport, so I GVH has much more dangerous activities, and clubs (Roller Hockey Club which I was on) than Parkour, not saying that it is really dangerous at all .It mostly consists of three movements: running, jumping/ leaping, and vaulting, simply, no flips or highly dangerous movements will be performed. I myself was prohibited to jump above 4 feet my first year until you build up the strength to take impact from higher, so everyone else will be prohibited as well.  So really my overall point is that Parkour is my only passion in life, and I want to share my discipline with other.  Now weather or not we are allowed to make a real, true club, or even a "club" like frisbee club who just meet, is up to you, but I truly hope that you would reconsider making Parkour a true GVH club, possibly being the coolest and certianlty most interesting club GVH has seen.

    However the most important part of understanding Parkour not Free Running is to see it, so here is a link to Colorado's Own Parkour Association videos including 2 videos of the many times Parkour has been in the news and media- http://www.coloradoparkour.com/media_videos.html  - click on the 3rd and 4th videos from the top for the news segments.  And check out http://www.coloradoparkour.com/index.html  - and under NEWS on that page you can see all the many events they have been involved in, Most recently, the principle of Skyland Community High School in Denver, read about Parkour in the Rocky Mountain News and asked the Colorado Parkour Association to come to their school and show the students what it is all about, and now they are going to incorporate it into their school.  Just look at the first topic under NEWS for the whole story.  And if you want to read more about it, here is what the New York Times wrote about it, click the link bellow -http://travel.nytimes.com/2007/06/29/travel/escapes/29Parkour.html?8dpc

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Re: Tips to Give New Traceurs In School Clubs
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2007, 10:16:27 PM »
Hey Patrick, last night I created a thread that will serve as a repository for all the parkour club proposals that have been written up so far. This repository will be a place on APK where any traceur who wants to start a club can go and find a wealth of information to get started. If you would be so kind as to contribute what you have written to that thread for future development, it would be really cool. This will help people to get their club ideas off the ground. An increase of that type of activity will help parkour to grow, by presenting it in a manner that is easier for the public to accept. This could potentially benefit all the traceurs in America, now, and in the future. Take a look so far what we have collected as of last night, and I hope you will contribute.

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Re: Tips to Give New Traceurs In School Clubs
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2007, 07:50:45 AM »
Patrick..

It's a good and passionate message BUT:

Before you turn that in...proofread it!
Possible revisions in blue: (sorry, I'm a teacher..couldn't help myself)   8)

Dear Mrs. Stordeur,

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is Patrick Holten, I came in today to speak to you about starting a Parkour club, not a Free Running club, which was my regretful mistake.  I was just thinking it over and I am sorry for your inconvenience to inconvenience you but I just didn't really sell it to you or even show you the video of it I had in my backpack, because I was so let down at the news you shared with me, so hopefully this will clear everything up for you and will make up for the lack of information I told you today.
   
    Now I know you mentioned you knew what the sport of Free Running was; I presume because of the flips you have seen people do on TV and stuff other media.  However less than 9/10 people couldn't could tell you what the discipline of Parkour which is what I do, actually is, being Parkour is totally different from Free Running. Most people associate Free Running with the huge flips you see men people do off of 12 foot walls, or jump off of buildings for fun, so it has made a bad reputation for itself, being seen as reckless or being just for the adrenaline rush.  In Free Running all you have to be able to do is a simple flip, or jumping from height, which many people can do. However many people are not dedicated enough to take on Parkour which in and of itself is a discipline like martial arts and dance. Free Running is just regarded as a hobby or sport if you will. I see the point you are trying to make, but be careful in contrasting the two too much...they are, after all, nearly parallel disciplines.

    But Parkour is almost 100% different from Free Running, but is were spawned from each other. Parkour, sometimes called, "The Art of Movement, or Displacement", is the art of clearing all obstacles in their path in the most fluid like manner possible. From point A to point B and back, you might say, as efficiently and effortlessly as possible, using only the abilities of the human body. Parkour is a physical activity which is difficult to categorize, some say it is like skateboarding just without the board but that is still very very far from what it is. It is not an extreme sport, but an art or discipline that resembles self-defense in the martial arts. It is often said that Parkour is in its own category: "Parkour is Parkour." Each obstacle a traceur (someone who practices Parkour) faces presents a unique challenge on how they can overcome it effectively, which depends on the, speed and angle of approach, the physical make-up of the obstacle, etc. Parkour is about training the body and mind to be able to react to those obstacles appropriately with a technique that works.  Just like how like a traceur clears obstacles and challenges in Parkour, and in life people also try to combat their problems and challenges. However in the discipline it may be less difficult to Utilizing Parkour, it is possible to overcome ones doubts and fears, and then one can re-apply the same mindset as in Parkour to life. Parkour mindset to life.

    For Parkour one must have a strong mind and body, and through Parkour it strengthens both. Because of Parkour, today I am in the best shape of my life.  What most people don't know is that the majority of the stuff activities we do is conditioning, because the way to excel in the disciple this discipline is through repetition and, yes, conditioning. So for the club's first semester we will would spend doing mostlymost of our time conditioning combined with the basic movements, and second semester the same  thing but more focused on honing members personal technique.  My whole summer I spent in Boulder, CO in a Parkour school and we spent 85% of the time conditioning, and running. They also taught me all the precautions and training methods.  So in this club daily we would do various exercises, such as running, stretching, and conditioning (building muscle memory and muscle mass).  Other than that, for the club, all we really need is a mat, which we already have and a box or low object to vault (to pass over an object especially with the use of the hands) and a narrow object to balance on.  And I remember you said today that the club will encourage the members to go out and hurt themselves, but the members who are joining have been training for years with me in a supervised gymnastics facility, where we are safe with pads and foam.  So when we practice the moves for the first time we will regularly meet at a gymnastics center as a club every Saturday, for all members even experienced ones.

    Along with the whole insurance and safety issue, is one point, the high Regarding your concerns about safety and insurance, let me assure you that the majority of the things we do itare at ground level. So if we do mess up we only fall  two feet if at all, so like I was saying before it is not at all a reckless or extreme sport. As of now Cheerleading is ranked as the most dangerous sport., so I GVH has much more dangerous activities, and clubs (Roller Hockey Club which I was on) than Parkour, not saying that it is really dangerous at all .It Parkour mostly consists of three movements: running, jumping/ leaping, and vaulting, simply, no flips or highly dangerous movements will be performed. I myself was prohibited to jump above 4 feet my first year until youI could build up the strength to take impact from higher drops. so everyone else will be prohibited as well. It is my intention to exact this same attention to safety in the members of the club. So really my overall point is that Parkour is my only passion in life, and I want to share my discipline with others.  Now weatherwhether or not we are allowed to make a real, true club, or even a "club" like frisbee club who just meet, is up to you, but I truly hope that you would reconsider making Parkour a true GVH club, possibly being the coolest and certianlty certainly most interesting club GVH has seen. Make this your closing argument, or use the one I typed below

    However the most important part of understanding Parkour not Free Running is to see it, so here is a link to Colorado's Own Parkour Association videos including 2 videos of the many times Parkour has been in the news and media- http://www.coloradoparkour.com/media_videos.html  - click on the 3rd and 4th videos from the top for the news segments.  And check out http://www.coloradoparkour.com/index.html  - and under NEWS on that page you can see all the many events they have been involved in, Most recently, the principle principal of Skyland Community High School in Denver, read about Parkour in the Rocky Mountain News and asked the Colorado Parkour Association to come to their school and show the students what it is all about, and now they are going to incorporate it into their school.  Just look at the first topic under NEWS for the whole story.  And if you want to read more about it, here is what the New York Times wrote about it, click the link bellow -http://travel.nytimes.com/2007/06/29/travel/escapes/29Parkour.html?8dpc You should also link the Jump Westminster video

    GVH has the opportunity to be at the forefront of the Parkour movement; bringing good fitness and health to students who are not as attracted to traditional sports. I urge you to please reconsider allowing us to practice Parkour at GVH. I am sure that, once you see the safety in which we practice, and the positive effects it has on student's health that you will agree that Parkour has a place at GVH.

-Thank you very much for your time
 Sincerely,
 Patrick Holten :-) Kill the happy face, it's no good in a formal letter
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Re: Tips to Give New Traceurs In School Clubs
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2007, 06:39:18 AM »
Heh. Nice job, Monkey. I was going to do the same thing.

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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2007, 08:12:15 PM »
Well, hey guys thanks for checking it out, and before I sent this to GVH I did proof read it and make changes but that was without Jim's revisions because I discovered his reply the day after I had sent it.  BUt regardless she wrote me back and was happy to see how enthusiastic I was, and determined. And she said all she has to do now is have her and I discuss it with risk management (I'll keep it safe this time), so hey It's a second chance, Yes! Wish me luck, I'll keep you all updated. (I wish I would have caught your revisions sooner Jim, they were really good, sorry).
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Re: Tips to Give New Traceurs In School Clubs
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2007, 08:17:30 PM »
Hey man that's awesome!!! Where do you go to school? Maybe if it's close enough, I might have to go check out your club, as opposed to starting my own. Mostly because I am the sole traceur at my school, sadly enough. I try to get people involved, and they seem into it, but then they don't continue and check out this website and stuff. But whatever....congratulations, and I hope you take this club far!

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Re: Tips to Give New Traceurs In School Clubs
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2007, 08:36:44 PM »
I know how u feel man, being sort of a lone traceur and all, right now I'm just trying to people interested in it to join, and actually a lot of people want to get involved in it, seeing how crazy I am about it and all. Show them a wallflip in school, trust me, after I did it today, I just said, "now do you want to learn how to do that?"  Other than that Inext I will put up flyers around the Halls.  But hey, I go to Grandview Highschool in Aurora, U to or no?  If not, even if you are close you can meet up at our school and train with us.  O and you should meet us at the, now weekly Cat Fountain Jams on Friday at 5 pm. it will be sick!! ;D
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Re: Tips to Give New Traceurs In School Clubs
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2007, 07:06:33 AM »
Right after you said "No flips or other dangerous movements". ;)
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Re: Tips to Give New Traceurs In School Clubs
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2007, 02:54:01 PM »
Hey Pat, it's Will

If you do suceed in establishing the club, I have to come jam with you guys sometime, I have some freinds here at The Denver School of Science and Tech that are interested as well.  I have told some of them about open gym and with luck, maybe one will attend next week.

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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2007, 03:45:52 PM »
Ya dude, thanks! tomorrow at 5pm meet us at Cat Fountain for a jam, then Saturday bring yourself and your friends to ASG. Yo, just call my cell or home #.
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« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2007, 06:19:48 PM »
I think I might be able to go to the Cat Fountain jam, but I'm not sure. I hope so! I might have to find a bus to get there, but...whatever. And no, I don't go to Grandview; I go to Monarch High School in Louisville. But if you meet up Saturdays at your high school, I might be able to get to a few meetings. Unfortunately I have a ton of crap on the weekends, but we'll have to just see. See you tomorrow (hopefully).

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Re: Tips to Give New Traceurs In School Clubs
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2007, 06:30:49 PM »
Just back from a trip all week, catching up on posts..

Well, hey guys thanks for checking it out, and before I sent this to GVH I did proof read it and make changes but that was without Jim's revisions because I discovered his reply the day after I had sent it.  BUt regardless she wrote me back and was happy to see how enthusiastic I was, and determined. And she said all she has to do now is have her and I discuss it with risk management (I'll keep it safe this time), so hey It's a second chance, Yes! Wish me luck, I'll keep you all updated. (I wish I would have caught your revisions sooner Jim, they were really good, sorry).

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Hey Pat, it's Will

If you do suceed in establishing the club, I have to come jam with you guys sometime, I have some freinds here at The Denver School of Science and Tech that are interested as well.  I have told some of them about open gym and with luck, maybe one will attend next week.

Good luck

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« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2007, 08:52:44 PM »
Ya schuby see ya tomorrow maybe.  And Jim you will be able to talk to Will tomorrow about odyssey, he is coming with me! ;D
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Re: Tips to Give New Traceurs In School Clubs
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2007, 12:29:41 PM »
Ok well it looks like I won't be able to get a ride to Denver. Anyone going from the Boulder/Louisville area that can give me a ride? I can chip in a little gas money if needed...thanks.

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Re: Tips to Give New Traceurs In School Clubs
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2007, 01:54:27 AM »
Brotha, that letter is absolute farce. It's ridiculous to say that anyone can jump off something high or do a flip then go on and on about how you limit yourself to jumping off obstacles under 4 feet tall. Parkour and freerunning are not "100%" different, at all. They're practically the same thing, one just focuses more on aesthetics.

I hate to think people would associate themselves with a club that advocates ridiculously pointless limitations like a 4 foot rule and condescend to freerunning which takes FAR more conditioning and discipline to master. Keep in mind, freerunning involves all techniques in parkour, martial arts, gymnastics, ect.