Topic: A few questions

[Xetrlal]

Question 1.

Is there any way to increase the length that I can Monkey Vault?, I have been practicing on a large dog kennel (It is about 4 and 1/2 feet tall, maybe a little taller, about 3 feet in length of side to side, 4 and 1/2 feet front to back, oh and I am almost 6"1) but so far, i can only clear it, with a inch remaining on the side vaults, and I am unable to clear it with the front to back vaults, I know that for longer distances I should use the Kong Vault, but I was just wondering how (or if) I can increase the length of my vault.

Question 2.

Now, When I use a Kong Vault, I dive and go for it all out, and I can clear it (The dog kennel) but I always seem to land to far forwards, so I stumble when I hit the ground (No face-plants yet) but, I am just looking for some tips, so I wont break my face on some concrete. Oh, and I just thought of something, I should lean back a little once my hands make contact with object in question right? (Well, once my legs come under my body) That should make me land more stably right?

Question 3.

Not really a "Moves" question, but related, How did you guys overcome your fears, of like diving onto concrete? For me, I was in the ER this summer for some Heart Problems, and for a few hours, I thought I might die, so, It made me realize that life it to short to worry about if you are going to get hurt by doing a Kong, and well, because of the ER visit, I nailed the King on my first try (Of course with the leaning forward problem) but, committing is easy for me now

[Matthew Menze]

1. Didn't make much sense to me, but as far as distance vaulting, it really varies from person to person. A few days ago someone posted a vid of himself doing a awesome 8 foot reverse vault. It's really limited by yourself. Hope I didn't totally miss what you meant by the question.

2 the kong always makes you lean forward, as you get better it is less and less of a issue, you could just go into a roll after it. Try doing a Kash vault if it really bothers you (kong to dash, similar to what you where talking about)

3. Everyone is different, mostly I just keep working at it from every angle I can think of until I do it.

Hope I helped more then I think I am helping,
Matt

[Xetrlal]

No, You pretty much got the questions right on. You helped a lot, thanks very much +1

[aggreenvln]

I think Matthew pretty much nailed it, but here's another thread that may help you.

[ZacharyCohn]

Not 100% sure, but on the kong vault, after your hands slap the obstacle, when your feet are begining to come forward to land, you should be starting to "stand up" in the air. If you're bending at the waist (moving your feet fortward but not your body) that could be the cause of your off-balanceness at the end.

[Donotfeedthemax]

I have the same problem with my kongs, I almost stumbled headfirst into a balence beam the other day. I'm not exactly sure how to fix that. Just practice more, I guess. And I'm pretty sure that you DON'T lean back once your hands make contact with the object in question. That seems like it's more like a Kash vault...

[ZacharyCohn]

You might be misunderstanding what I mean. If you don't lean back at all, you'll go diving headfirst into the ground. The kash isn't so much leaning back after your hands hit as it is pausing when your hands hit and then swinging your legs through.

I was trying to say you lean back after your hands leave the surface of the object (and they should only be slapping, anyway),  while you're still in the air, so when you land you are more upright.

slap:
>--<-o

wrong landing:
 |--o
^

right landing:

  o
 -|-
  ^

Do my da vinci like artistic skills help at all?

[Asphalt]

how best to avoid wrist damage when Konging.

[Donotfeedthemax]

Asphalt, was that a question, statement, proclemation, rebuttle.... what? I don't get it.

happy, I'm glad you never land wrong, it looks like your spinal cord has somehow broken though your back and is sticking out, while the rest of your body, paralized, hangs limp. Or maybe your suddenly grew a giraffe neck, and your torso dissolved, leaving your shoulders and extra-long next falling to the ground, while your waist down just stands there, confused.

But I'll send DaVinci a letter, he'll either go into hiding or send an assassin to kill you. Trust me, I'm an artist.

However artistic, however, your drawings, to me, say something completely obvious, I knew that in the first place. BUT you get points for them being awesome.

[ZacharyCohn]

I was TRYING to demonstrate a POINT. I was also really tired, and it was about 95 degrees in my office (it was so hot, I turned the computer tower around so the fans in the back would blow into my face to cool me off...)

[Donotfeedthemax]

Yep, and you got your point across. And... I already understood that. The question before us now, gentlemen, if HWO. Excuse me, that's HOW. The question is HOW to land upright, and not stumbling, bent over forward.

That's great, did the fans actually help? I've never thought of doing that, you're a genius, happydud.

[ZacharyCohn]

I'm no genius- Just a guy with a computer and a couple of questions.

As to how to do it: I'd try a few things but that'd look weird at work, so see if this helps. Maybe try, as your hands are pushing off of the obstacle, stick your chest out, so your shoulders go back. As this is happening, the normal movement with the feet is occuring, so you [theoretically] end up more upright.

The next best thing I can think of is to push down into the obstacle just the slightest bit more, which would start your body's counter-rotation (you have forward rotation from diving forward, so counteract it with a bit of backwards rotation.) Note- don't push down too hard, or else your feet will probably hit the obstacle. It should be mostly forward, but with just barely a little bit of up to get your rotation started. I think this might actually be the key. Without this counterrotation, your upper body has no real way to straighten out, which creates that upside-down L shape. With the rotation, it gives your upper body that little bit extra to straighten out.

Let me know if that helps!

[ZacharyCohn]

Thinking about it more, this could help with kong-to-precisions. If you're landing in the upside down L shape, it's going to be harder to stick the landing.

[Xetrlal]

Thanks a lot everyone for your help, I am going to try your suggestions, and I hope they help, andway, thanks again!