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Gatorade
« on: July 19, 2007, 09:44:03 PM »
Hi.
In a strive to healthify my diet, I decided to check out Gatorade as replacement for water. I especially  worried about this since I joined XC team and started to run a crapload of endurance and temp running.

So I went to Walmart and read the Gatorade's ingredients. Wow! 20 oz bottle of this thing has about 40 grams of sugar, all coming from the high fructose corn syrup! This is sports drink? Looks like a bottle of Pepsi is more tastier and healthier :)
Am I missing on health benefits of HFCS and Gatorade? Or should I screw this and stick with icy water and green tea? :)
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Re: Gatorade
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2007, 10:54:28 PM »
Screw this and stick with water and green tea. :) Make sure your tea is the kind you brew yourself and then ice (or a commercial variety of same). Lots of green tea drinks also have lots of sugar, as do most sports drinks like Powerade, etc.

If you're worried about replacing a lot of electrolytes that get lost through perspiration, be sure you are getting adequate sodium and potassium in your diet. If you do feel that you're active enough, and sweating enough that you're losing nutrients, you can try Gatorade, but I would opt for diluting it substantially with ice water (maybe 10:1 or so?) to cut down on the sugar you're ingesting.

Alternatively there is a sports drink called "Propel" which is, as near as I can tell, just water fortified with the same stuff that's in Gatorade (minus the sugar). I could be wrong though; my memory is faulty with old age. ;) I think "Smart Water" is a similar product also. I may have the brand name wrong... but the thing is there are some "enhanced" waters out there as well, with little to no sugar.
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Re: Gatorade
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2007, 03:59:45 AM »
If you can stomach it... chocolate milk is EXCELLENT during training. There's some studies on this if you want to research it.

Generally, gatorade does help a little as during a workout your muscles will uptake simple sugars VERY (within minutes) quickly to start replenishing glycogen. However, of course it's not THAT healthy either. I still use it since I can't stomach the choco milk. Propel is a good alternative or powerade option or whatever. Less than the 200 cals you get from Gatorade from the 32 oz bottle, heh heh.

Ah yeah, as Muse hinted at... the actual concentration of gatorade that is optimal for the body is diluted by like 2/3s or 1/3 or something. I don't quite remember, but yeah it shouldn't be as concentrated as you get it from the bottle. And it is cheaper to buy the mix and make it yourself.
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Re: Gatorade
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2007, 06:31:50 AM »
Steve, no, no way, chocolate milk would go back from my stomach very quickly :)

And you, and Muse says that I have to restore nutrients/glycogen during workout. But what if I'm losing weight? Why would I restore nutrients? To keep the metabolism running?

Thanks for answering the post, people :)
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Re: Gatorade
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2007, 06:49:59 AM »
Gatorade is good, as long as you don't use it as your only source for hydration.

A general rule of thumb is:

Drink water before a workout
Drink gatorade while working out (to replenish lost electrolytes such as sodium, potassium, etc.)
Drink water after a workout.
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Re: Gatorade
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2007, 07:27:23 AM »
Just drink water, trust me, it has a helluva lot more benefits than gatorade, and, water is HARDCORE. Check out the water page on http://www.trickstutorials.com/index.php?page=content/wpotion And you'll know then.


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Re: Gatorade
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2007, 09:20:21 AM »
That is one of the most HARDCORE articles I have ever read.

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Re: Gatorade
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2007, 09:25:55 AM »
That article is hella inspirational for becoming HARDCORE   8)

okctraceur, but gatorade has HFCS? What about all those "DON'T TOUCH ANYTHING WITH HFCS."
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Re: Gatorade
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2007, 11:26:46 AM »
Yeah, the article is awesome, check out some of the others under the nutrition section, I'd highly recommend 2P weaponizing tactics and sleep for power 8)

Also, it's important to keep in mind that it doesn't matter how good of an article you read, if you don't apply the information in it, it's worthless, personally, I'm not finacially capable of being as healthy as I'd like, but as soon as I get a job, I will be so healthy it'll make a horse jealous ;D
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Re: Gatorade
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2007, 12:05:36 PM »
Steve, no, no way, chocolate milk would go back from my stomach very quickly :)

And you, and Muse says that I have to restore nutrients/glycogen during workout. But what if I'm losing weight? Why would I restore nutrients? To keep the metabolism running?

Thanks for answering the post, people :)

If you're trying to lose weight, you may be opting to operate at a calorie deficit, but this does not mean you should operate with a nutrient deficit. On the contrary, you should still make sure you are getting all the necessary nutrients (proteins/aminos, vitamins/minerals, isoflavones, antioxidants, etc.) even though you may be consuming fewer calories, or different types of calories.

Your body uses up nutrients every day in its normal functioning, which is why we can't just eat one meal our whole lives and keep going. When you feel hungry it's your body's way of saying, "I need more fuel! More nutrients, please!"

When you exercise, you lose nutrients even more quickly, either because your body is using them to fuel the exercise and/or repair cells and tissues during and after, or simply through perspiration. This is why sweat smells/tastes salty: you are losing minerals (mostly sodium) out of your body as you sweat. Sodium and potassium work in combination in your body to regulate your body's electrochemical networks (I probably have those specifics wrong) which is why they are called "electrolytes." These are two things you really need to replace when exercising as they are lost through sweat (particularly if you're not well-hydrated to begin with), and this is primarily what Gatorade is marketing to you. But if you are getting enough sodium and potassium in your diet, then just water should do the trick.

The real problem with Gatorade and other drinks is the sugar. I would advise you to get your electrolytes in other ways, and stick to water to stay hydrated.
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Re: Gatorade
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2007, 12:16:56 PM »
Wow  :o Thanks, Muse  :o I don't think I have any questions anymore.
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Re: Gatorade
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2007, 01:35:29 PM »
You might want to try Emergen-C
Its has all the benefits of Gatorade and more without the sugar

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp;jsessionid=WBBWKXRAD40AWCQUC4YFAFYKCQL00UNE?id=AL-1044

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Re: Gatorade
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2007, 07:49:03 PM »
That article is hella inspirational for becoming HARDCORE   8)

okctraceur, but gatorade has HFCS? What about all those "DON'T TOUCH ANYTHING WITH HFCS."

To be honest, I don't know.  I'm no fitness/diet expert.  I just know that I have used the "Water before/after, gatorade during" thing in my cross-country to replace electrolytes and it never seemed to have any negative side affects that i could tell.

But, heck, like I said.  I don't know a lot about this stuff, so if it says not to, so be it!   :D I have learned something today.
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« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2007, 07:28:40 PM »
Gatorade directly before/during and after a workout can have some benefits, as Steven mentioned, though it's amplified by adding protein or even better branched chain amino acids in a 3/1 or 4/1 cho/pro ratio. This mixes ability to rapidly spike insulin levels, combined with your body's increased insulin sensitivity and its preferential use of carbohydrates for both glycogen replenishment AND increased protein synthesis after a workout makes it a great choice. Some other cool effects of this method is the fact that a proper cho/pro ratio before a workout has been shown to actually increase blood flow to the working muscles and there's a pretty noticeable difference in muscle-soreness from day to day between sub-par post-workout nutrition and completely dialed pwo nutrition. To tie it all together, following a pretty low-carb nutrition strategy the rest of the time with the majority of your daily carbohydrates coming immediately peri-workout tends to amplify the entire effect by increasing insulin sensitivity even more.

Now, one thing you may notice is that there's pretty much NO reason to drink gatorade any other time. The sugar is worthless for when you're just sweating. A cool tip I got from a client of mine recently was to use a little salt and a little salt-substitute in water with perhaps a bit of lemon for a hydrating drink. Regular salt provides sodium, the substitutes is made from potassium chloride, so it hits your bases there, and you don't have a bunch of worthless if not potentially harmful sugar that you don't necessarily need!

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Re: Gatorade
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2007, 08:15:36 PM »
What if I'd put some regular baking soda into the water instead of salt? I like the taste of baking soda actually :)

But for now I'm sticking with icy water and fruits for carbohydrates.
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« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2007, 09:23:00 PM »
That would help buffer acid build-up in the muscles, but wouldn't accomplish the goal of replenishing electrolytes.

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Re: Gatorade
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2007, 09:45:38 PM »
You are so right!  Gatorade is really bad for you with all of its sugars. And nothing can really replace the need for water. A Sport Drink, however is really important to include with your work outs because it replaces the electrolites you loose. Electrolites help everything work better.

I work in internet development and one of the many products I work with is the only sugar-free Sports Drink on the market.
Go here: http://lel.wwdb.biz/Choices/Products.aspx?P=1024 and you will be able to find them - 3rd item down on the list. I know they are not as cheep as Gatorade but they have addition vitamins in them to help fight free-radicals in the body and help to energize you. You get what you pay for. If you send me a personal message I'm pretty sure I can hook you up with a special deal. That Deal goes for any Traceur / Traceuse interested. At the very least there's a good deal of good info on this site about health nutrition / sports nutrition stuff. The home page is: http://lel.wwdb.biz I hope this can help  :)
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Re: Gatorade
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2007, 09:49:35 AM »
MMM, Im drinking water out of an old gatorade bottle.

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Re: Gatorade
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2007, 11:37:49 PM »
Vitamin Water's pretty amazing...

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Re: Gatorade
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2007, 05:22:38 AM »
"But... It's got electra'lites!" - Idiocracy. I love that movie.