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Offline Levi Porter

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Problems Konging Long-distance
« on: February 05, 2012, 07:57:17 PM »
Kong vaults always used to scare the crap out of me because I was afraid of faceplanting.  But I just went for it a few weeks ago and can now kong across a picnic table the short way pretty well. It feels really smooth going the short way, but when I try konging the table the long way (the table is about 6-7 feet and I'm 5' 7"ish tall), I can never get all the way through it.

I sort of dive into it, and first contact is my hands about a foot to six inches from the opposite edge.  But once I'm that far, my legs always come down and skid along the table.  In other words my feet never make it through.

Do I just need to work on my feet movement?  If so, how would I go about doing that?  This IS with a splitstep take off but, I do notice myself stutterstepping a little.  How do I fix that?  Could I possibly be reaching too far onto the table so that the angle of my arms cause my momentum to stop?

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Re: Problems Konging Long-distance
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2012, 08:55:03 PM »
Suggestion; Raise your hips higher, Work on your split foot take off - make it more of an up leap (the running towards will help with the out part of that up and out thing) when you make contact with your hands don't freak out and drop your hips - keep them bad boys up there, and finally swing that $#!7 through.
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Re: Problems Konging Long-distance
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2012, 10:02:38 PM »
I feel like with your hand placement mid-vault, your approach and takeoff isn't what is holding you back here, although it's always a good thing to make sure you have a good amount of momentum (aka stutter-steps aren't a good thing). Once your hands are down on the table, you really need to push up and off with your hands to get your legs through. To be completely honest, our bodies are all made differently, and some people are proportioned in a way that is well-suited for kongs. If you are, however, you need to work on your exit more so that you get the right push off of the obstacle. Good luck :)
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Re: Problems Konging Long-distance
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2012, 12:32:42 AM »
Do handstands, I thought i was comfortable with dive kongs, but then when i learned how to handstand well, i realized i was extremely comfortable diving to my hands.
Also, you might be slowing down, a common mistake for any movement really, vaults/flips

Handstands help a lot with double kongs, Double konging tables is much easier than dive kong them, double kongs are also probably more safe than dive kongs as well once you learn them correctly.
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Re: Problems Konging Long-distance
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2012, 09:30:22 PM »
Thanks I'll try this tomorrow again

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Re: Problems Konging Long-distance
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2012, 10:05:35 PM »
Handstands help a lot with double kongs, Double konging tables is much easier than dive kong them, double kongs are also probably more safe than dive kongs as well once you learn them correctly.

Don't knock the dive kongs though, Levi. They might work a lot better for you, like they did for me. Double kongs for me just...dont feel right. But see what works for you.
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Re: Problems Konging Long-distance
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2012, 11:41:39 PM »
Don't knock the dive kongs though, Levi. They might work a lot better for you, like they did for me. Double kongs for me just...dont feel right. But see what works for you.
Handstands help a lot with double kongs, Double konging tables is much easier than dive kong them, double kongs are also probably more safe than dive kongs as well once you learn them correctly.
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Try imagine Tob Segar Dive konging what he double konged in what is most likely the largest double kong in history.
it would seem a lot harder to dive kong that far.

Although doing massive dive kongs is part of double konging, it kind of feels like a massive dive kong, but you give yourself an extra push on the first obstacle.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2012, 11:44:07 PM by Grip »
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Re: Problems Konging Long-distance
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2012, 07:32:50 AM »
the dive Kong is a bit scary at first. but you could try what i did. instead of diving the length straight away, try the dive Kong on the shorter side first. you seem comfortable with the short side.

so find a comfy distance to leap from, make the dive Kong, and keep working it until you are 100% happy at that distance. Then take a step back and repeat until you feel like you can jump the table long ways.

another thing that helps my with new dive Kong's (just to get a feel for the distance) is that i will get a running start and just jump as far as i can onto the table and mark it somehow. this way i know how far i can get normally. just a thought to try.
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