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I Need to Make A Training Schedule
« on: December 04, 2011, 01:52:14 PM »
Hey guys.  I really need to start a training routine to stay in shape between cross country and track, and I want to become stronger instead of just pure endurance.  My goals would be to keep my mile under 6 minutes, to be able to run 6 miles easily (well, without hurting and having to stop), to be able to do 15 pullups consecutively, to be able to do 5 L- Sit Pullups (I can't do any right now), and I really want to improve my squat to about 150 or 175 (I've never maxed, but doing a couple reps at 100 lb. is hard for me).  I'm about 5 feet 10 and I weight around 130 lb.  Like I said earlier, I'm really doing this to be faster and stay in good shape.  I would love to hear suggestions, comments, or whatever you guys feel like posting.  Thanks!
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Re: I Need to Make A Training Schedule
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2011, 02:13:45 PM »
So you plan to run distance in track? As is 3200/1600/80m races? If so, then you can look up various running programs based on those. You should have about 3 hard running workouts a week. These could be long "tempo" runs, interval sprints, repeat hard miles, ect. There's alot of way to train for running and it really depends on the distance you are looking to run.

On 3 other days, you should to strength work. Quite honestly, you probably could max out at least a 150 lbs squat right now, and quite possibly 175. If that's your final goal, then that's fine, but you can definitely do better if you focus on it.

How many pullups can you do right now? And how is your L-sit in a hanging position?

You might want to add some more pressing movements (bench press or overhead press) and some posterior chain work (deadlifts) to balance your weight training out.

Just remember, you cannot optimally train strength and endurance at the same time. I tried to ignore this advice and did not reach all of my goals (both strength and endurance) this past cross country season. Specialization yields better results.

Make sure you are eating enough! I'm guessing you're still in high school, so you should be gaining weight and getting bigger. Your diet is essential in any athletic endeavor, endurance or strength related.

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Re: I Need to Make A Training Schedule
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2011, 04:32:53 PM »
Thanks for the great response man!

I will definitely be running the 2 mile, mile, and 800 in track.  I can currently do about 10 pullups consecutively and I would love to be able to squat a lot of reps of 150lb.  I also can hold a hanging l sit for about 4-5 seconds max and I would also like to incorporate dips.  I just have no clue what days to to do what exercise(s) and how to make like a schedule.
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Re: I Need to Make A Training Schedule
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2011, 08:49:33 PM »
Are you doing your school/coaches workouts?

Or do you have free reign with wha tyou can do?

Do you have access to weights?

Current routine/schedule?
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Re: I Need to Make A Training Schedule
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2011, 11:56:32 AM »
Well, some of the fastest kids are doing a sort of winter track thing with my coach, but it cost $100 and I'm near the bottom of the team.

I have total free reign with what I can do.

I have a squat rack, dip bar, pull up bar, and a lot of places to run.

I have no current routine or schedule.
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Re: I Need to Make A Training Schedule
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2011, 02:31:27 PM »
Alright so define your goals.... and then construct a routine around them
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Re: I Need to Make A Training Schedule
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2011, 02:58:27 PM »
  I just have no clue what days to to do what exercise(s) and how to make like a schedule.

How long have you been running for and what are your current abilities in the mile and two mile run?
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Re: I Need to Make A Training Schedule
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2011, 03:05:27 PM »
I honestly would make my own routine, but I really don't know how to incorporate strength training with running.  That's kinda why I posted this.  And I have been running for about 3 years and I can run a solid 5:40 mile in track and a 12:30 2 mile.
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Re: I Need to Make A Training Schedule
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2011, 01:19:02 PM »
http://www.scribd.com/doc/75049044/Work-Out-Idea

Well here it is!  I just made myself a workout routine and goals.  Please comment and critique!
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Re: I Need to Make A Training Schedule
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2011, 01:49:20 PM »
You're planning on running 1-3 miles the same day that you squat heavy?  Not a good plan.  You should try to put these on different days, definitely. 
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Re: I Need to Make A Training Schedule
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2011, 02:35:39 PM »
Would a medium easy run be better on squat days?  And should I switch the fast run to Fridays?
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Re: I Need to Make A Training Schedule
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2011, 03:35:13 PM »
You should lift 3x a week on the off-season and 2x a week when your training starts up. There might be a month or two where you have to stay off weights completely depending if you're doing a periodized (for running) plan or not. If this is truly your off season you should be taking a month off altogether, doing speed work, or going on light jogs. You can lift 3x a week if that's what you're doing right now. Although I don't really know how you're planning your season out.

You're planning on running 1-3 miles the same day that you squat heavy?  Not a good plan.  You should try to put these on different days, definitely.

I wouldn't say that. I'd do weights first in the morning and do the workout in the afternoon. Because if he does it on different days he won't have room for recovery. If I ran hard 2 to three times a week I'd want them to be on the same days I'd lift.
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Re: I Need to Make A Training Schedule
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2011, 04:56:43 PM »
Ya, I've taken a month off already mostly because of laziness and now I really want to stay and be in shape for track.  That's why I really want to be stronger in the legs and upper body.  I won't be able to lift early except for saturdays because of school, so I'll have to lift right when I get home from school around 2:30 and then I can run at night.  Does that sound ok?
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Re: I Need to Make A Training Schedule
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2011, 05:24:11 PM »
That doesn't sound bad. I'm just not sure if I'm right or if I'm wrong. I know how it is being an endurance athlete and lifting all at once. You need both so even though it's probably not great, it would be better than putting it on separate days. I just wouldn't beat myself up to bad on your run considering it's the off season.
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Re: I Need to Make A Training Schedule
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2011, 06:02:30 PM »
I hear you man.  I think I'm honestly going to focus more on the lifting than the fast running.  I really need to get stronger, especially in my lower body.

Edit:  I edited my work out plan slightly.  How does it look now?  http://www.scribd.com/doc/75049044/Work-Out-Idea
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Re: I Need to Make A Training Schedule
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2011, 08:08:42 PM »
Is your squat weight high enough that you need periodized training?

If NOT then stick with the same reps (3x5) and increase weight every session. (actually its not so definitely go 3x5 all days and increase weight). You don't need DUP protocol.

Same with the other reps, You don't need that. Just increase the reps as you get stronger.

Add in another pulling and pushing upper body exercise.
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Re: I Need to Make A Training Schedule
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2011, 09:44:11 PM »
I didn't notice that you're looking to squat >#150...so certainly: get that squat up.  Progressive overload will carry you EASILY to this goal.

After my "all out" squats, I'm doing good to be able to walk out of the gym.  Endurance running?  NO thanks.

Ignore my comments earlier about splitting these up.  You shouldn't have many issues at all with recovery...yet. ;)
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Re: I Need to Make A Training Schedule
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2011, 04:19:30 PM »
Alright, thanks for all the replies guys.  Basically I'm just going to do 3 sets of 5 for squats and i'm keeping everything in 3 sets (except running).  I now have 2 questions.  What's a good pushing/pulling exercise?  And should I try circuit training?
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Re: I Need to Make A Training Schedule
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2011, 05:30:06 PM »
Keep 3 sets and increase the weight every session if possible

There's a lot of good pushing and pulling exercises.... w hat goals for upper body?
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Re: I Need to Make A Training Schedule
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2011, 06:10:57 PM »
I would really like to actually have pectoral muscles that look decent.
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