Author Topic: Parkour in VFF's?? (Read 2522 times)

ashley · « **Reply #20 on:** November 17, 2011, 12:04:53 PM »

Just got my flows in yesterday....and they are awesome LOL...other then a little pinky toe pain...but i think its do to my little toe is not that tough LOL...

PARKOURSAGE · « **Reply #21 on:** November 17, 2011, 12:51:54 PM »

Its probably stretching it out. Most people have their pinky toe smashed up against their other toes. The vibrams will help fix that if you have it.

Alex Patterson · « **Reply #22 on:** November 17, 2011, 05:52:41 PM »

Hey Jen how's the flexibility of the Flow's?

I'm pretty sure I'll get just the KSO's as my first VFF. Thanks for the input.

Jennifer · « **Reply #23 on:** November 17, 2011, 06:49:43 PM »

I'm not sure if you were referring to me, or if PK-Girl is also named Jen, haha...we Jen's are a dime a dozen.

But my KSO Treks are wonderfully flexible. I can roll them into a tube starting at the toe and rolling in either direction, or I can grab one edge and roll them into a tube longways. It's amazing how well you can feel the surfaces underneath them--I can not only feel every curve of a rail, but I can tell whether I'm standing on concrete or grass.

Of course, the trade of is having zero support. I look at my VFF's as "gloves" for my feet rather than shoes. They protect me from stickers and heat, the rubber soles absorb just a touch of impact, and until they're completely worn down, they've got great grip.

I prefer not to wear shoes, just in general, so for me VFF's are the ultimate shoe, just about the only ones I wear anymore, training or not. But people who are used to shoes--and especially those who rely on them for support or to cover little errors in form--are probably not going to like VFF's.

Alex Patterson · « **Reply #24 on:** November 17, 2011, 07:40:42 PM »

Ha, that's funny I got the Jen's mixed up. Funnier thing, my grandpa's name was Jen. Don't ask me why.

I as well wear shoes as little as possible. But my feet are confused. I have to wear steel toes with support at work since I'm standing on concrete all day. then I get home and no shoes.

From Parkoursage's recommendation I'm keeping to to the KSO's.

ashley · « **Reply #25 on:** November 18, 2011, 09:40:46 AM »

The Flow's seem to be very flexible to me...but this is my first pair of VFF's...so dont know how the other modles are....New to the VFF's lol

PARKOURSAGE · « **Reply #26 on:** November 25, 2011, 04:04:22 PM »

The flows are the exact same model as the kso with the only difference being the neoprene upper. Also the rubber used in the Flows is a little stiffer than the kso. However is was designed for water use and according to the manufacturer the flow rubber provides more grip on any surface than the tc-1 rubber used in all the other fivefingers however it is also a marking material and will leave black streaks on light surfaces. Also Vibramfivefingers.com is having a black friday even right now through monday the 27th that is 30 percent off some models and free shipping on everything. That means the kso's will only cost 67.50

Alex Patterson · « **Reply #27 on:** November 25, 2011, 07:06:52 PM »

Looks like I'm ordering mine thijs weekeend then. I got a question on the sizing though that I didn't see addressed on their site. My foot measure at 10 7/8th. I'm assuming I round up to 11 and not down to 10 3/4. Am I right?

BremerKen · « **Reply #28 on:** November 25, 2011, 11:31:36 PM »

Quote from: Alex Patterson on November 25, 2011, 07:06:52 PM

Looks like I'm ordering mine thijs weekeend then. I got a question on the sizing though that I didn't see addressed on their site. My foot measure at 10 7/8th. I'm assuming I round up to 11 and not down to 10 3/4. Am I right?

Yeah round up for sure. My first pair I ordered online were a size too small. They work but they are tight and I use them for light bouldering/working out and run-swims. I went a size up in my next pair and they are perfect!

PARKOURSAGE · « **Reply #29 on:** November 26, 2011, 11:15:01 AM »

Yeah I believe that vibram also recommends that you buy them a size up.

Conrad Moser · « **Reply #30 on:** December 05, 2011, 03:09:20 PM »

I found a local store this weekend that carries VFFs, so today I went in to size and try them on...OH MY GOD! It was like my feet were having sex. And each toe orgasmed. I think I know what I'm doing when my tax refund comes in!

Mitch Theisen · « **Reply #31 on:** December 05, 2011, 05:21:52 PM »

I have Komodo's, and they get pretty good grip for me. I got mine at my brothers store with a 50 discount, so why not? Try them on before you get them though, even if a store has not a model you want, go try them on at a store first.

Jennifer · « **Reply #32 on:** December 06, 2011, 07:12:56 AM »

Belhade...

Awesome post!

And a funny thing happened Sunday. We were between two walls, practicing 180 cats, and I noticed that even though my shoes are worn smooth on the bottom and I don't always have grip on my take-offs/landings, I had better grip in those cats than just about anyone. I don't know if it was just technique, or the shoes, or what, but I tend to think it was the shoes, LOL!

Conrad Moser · « **Reply #33 on:** December 06, 2011, 11:35:19 AM »

Ok, so I dreamt about them last night.

I bhad gotten them in the mail and went to try them out. In th rain and on grass, jumping onto metal rails, perfect grip. Then went for a jam-style run with a bunch of guys (that I play Battlefield with

) and it was AWESOME. Then I noticed that one of the guys was wearing the knockoff Skele-Toes; I asked him how they compare and he said they weren't very good.

So today I went to a Kohl's and tried the Skele-Toes. No good - they have toes but a more rigid sneaker-like sole.

Spencer Young · « **Reply #34 on:** December 06, 2011, 11:58:55 AM »

Quote from: Belhade on December 05, 2011, 03:09:20 PM

I found a local store this weekend that carries VFFs, so today I went in to size and try them on...OH MY GOD! It was like my feet were having sex. And each toe orgasmed. I think I know what I'm doing when my tax refund comes in!

My ex called them orgasm shoes when she tried on a pair.

Spencer Young · « **Reply #35 on:** December 06, 2011, 12:02:39 PM »

Yes. It's so much easier to climb and move in these shoes without worrying about laces. XD plus your feet will get stronger the more you wear them.

Alex Patterson · « **Reply #36 on:** December 06, 2011, 01:31:57 PM »

I can't wait till I get mine. We've ordered the KSO's. But since its technically my Christmas present. I gotsta wait.

Conrad Moser · « **Reply #37 on:** December 20, 2011, 01:00:07 PM »

Ok, I've been trying on a lot of VFFs lately and have a bit more in the way of questions.

I've seen that they basically have three different sole types: the "one-piece" of the Sprints, KSO, Flow and Classics, the "studs" of the Treks and the "patches" of the Komodos, Bikilas and Speeds. I've had people tell me that the "patches" tend to be thicker at the contact points (toes and ball) than the "one-pieces" and I've wondered if the "studs" would hinder traction on smoother surfaces (like metal).

For now, I like the look of the KSO and Flow (plain black, no fancy styling) although my right foot really does not like to go in. Some of the Bikila (the LS I think) fit really well; I might be content with the blue/gray look. And the KSO Treks could almost pass as business-casual work shoes! (though they're $140!

)

PARKOURSAGE · « **Reply #38 on:** December 21, 2011, 10:14:36 AM »

Grip in parkour is all about surface area. The more you have the more grip you have. Flexibility is also a plus as it allows you to wrap around things. (Although 5.10's defy this with their tough rubber but we know why that works on some surfaces). The 1 piece bottoms with the razor sipping will have the most grip out of all of the fivefingers. However all of the others will still have amazing grip. I use merrell barefoot trail gloves with the same vibram rubber sole and the grip is amazing and they are more like the treaded or patchy models. As for thickness all of the vibram models have a zero heel drop meaning the shoe is the same thickness beginning to end so your foot sits flat. While they may say on vibrams website that such and such material on such and such model is thicker at a certain point they make another material THINNER to allow the other to be thicker. The treks and treksports are the thickest featuring a 4mm eva midsole. They will give you a little softer ride in jumps and such. My merrell trail gloves are the same thickness and I love them. However the kso's are a little thinner with 2mm of eva. They are more flexible and allow a better "ground feel" The komodosport is 7 mm thick featuring a 3mm removable insole and a 4mm rubber sole. Hope this is all useful. Bottom line any of them will work just fine. Except the open top ones with nothing to really hold your foot in.

Spencer Young · « **Reply #39 on:** December 22, 2011, 08:15:33 AM »

I had to retire my first pair, because It feel loose on me and I noticed that my big toe had hole in the cloth part. My next pair will be some more KSO's or Flows but I'm going a size down, but they are still functional as workout shoes and lazy day shoes.

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