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Offline Philip

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3x5 140lb squat
3x5 70 lb press
3x5 95 lb power clean

I missed friday because I was ill.

Rolls continue to vex me.

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Are you still searching up roll threads or tuts? I can help out with that (as well as everyone else here).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykbx-yzFgBo

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Are you still searching up roll threads or tuts? I can help out with that (as well as everyone else here).
Yeah, I've looked at a few tutorials and I've been mindful of watching technique in other people's videos, but something's still off.

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Well, you got to feel it out I guess. Usually it helps me avoid hitting my shoulder when you tuck your chin towars your opposite armpit. Your hands should be pushing you into the roll a bit, and for me it still varies on how I place them. Sometimes you have to put the hand, in this case my right hand since I roll from right shoulder to left hand, a little bit back from the other one in order to get that angle, or if it helps instead of placing it facing forward make one hand (or maybe both) face inwards toward each other ---> <--- like that with your fingers.

Mostly it's the chin/head tuck that gets the back of my shoulder exposed and it makes it easier to rotate so you don't hit the vulnerable parts.

That's mostly the "roll" part of the roll, I guess :P. If it has to do with getting out of it right, getting into it, etc., then I'll try my best to help. My rolls started getting consistent a couple weeks ago, so I can empathize :)
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Well, you got to feel it out I guess. Usually it helps me avoid hitting my shoulder when you tuck your chin towars your opposite armpit. Your hands should be pushing you into the roll a bit, and for me it still varies on how I place them. Sometimes you have to put the hand, in this case my right hand since I roll from right shoulder to left hand, a little bit back from the other one in order to get that angle, or if it helps instead of placing it facing forward make one hand (or maybe both) face inwards toward each other ---> <--- like that with your fingers.

Mostly it's the chin/head tuck that gets the back of my shoulder exposed and it makes it easier to rotate so you don't hit the vulnerable parts.

That's mostly the "roll" part of the roll, I guess :P. If it has to do with getting out of it right, getting into it, etc., then I'll try my best to help. My rolls started getting consistent a couple weeks ago, so I can empathize :)
Yeah. My problems this week are dropping my arm too low on the roll side, so that I'm basically pushing off from the ground with my forearm; not having a smooth roll over the back, I end up flopping down onto my hip towards the end of the roll; and my away side leg always tends to be behind my roll side leg, making it a bit awkward to keep going. Maybe it's the lumpy-ass ground giving me grief or something.

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This is going to be weird to explain.

Usually when you roll you're going to want straight arms for the most part of it, until your momentum is going forward and you're leaning forward towards you shoulder. At that point is kind of like a weird push-up with the right timing, because you're not just collapsing your arms but resisting with them to sort of control the rotation and in the right direction. It's going to push you forward, not up, down, or whatever else.

Most of this is in UrbanCurrent's Advanced Parkour Roll tutorial anyway, which you've probably seen. If not go look it up RIGHT NOW because that probably targets your problem the most.

Okay, so assuming if you roll from right-shoulder-left-hip then your away leg is the left? If it's landing way behind your front leg then I can't really relate to that. I'd make an example of how I roll but most tutorials out there will be your best option for visual learning. The leg problem probably has to do with the first two so maybe once you fix those it'll go away.
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Yeah, I've looked at a few tutorials and I've been mindful of watching technique in other people's videos, but something's still off.

can you tape yourself? Post it so we can help you out?
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http://www.americanparkour.com/smf/index.php/topic,14576.180.html

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can you tape yourself? Post it so we can help you out?
Once the ground dries up, might as well give it a shot.

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Once the ground dries up, might as well give it a shot.

indoors, too. Both works. Whatever you can get to us would help us help you.
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really need to stop forgetting to write my stuff down. Stupid lackadaisicalness. Haven't practiced rolls or anything in a week or two. Always raining. I would do them indoors but all the floors are hardwood and I don't trust it yet.

1x5 squat 155lb
2x5 squat 160

3x5 bench 95lb

1x5 deadlift 120lb

3x20 crunches

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3x5 135lb squat. working on form.
3x5 115lb power clean
3x5 75lb press


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god my mind is always blanking when I try to remember these things

monday
3x 5 squat 135
3 x 5 bench 95
1 x 135 deadlift

wednesday

3x5 145 squat
3x5 75 press
3x5 95 power clean

still failing to practice movement regularly. I think I might just focus on strength and conditioning til it gets warmer. freakin' hate the cold.
« Last Edit: December 14, 2011, 09:18:52 AM by Philip »

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3x5 145lb squat
3x5 100lb bench
1x5 145lb deadlift

blah blah blah blah bluh

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skipped monday because lazy.

today was
3x5 150lb squat
3x5 100lb bench
3x5 100lb clean

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3x5 155lb squat
3x5 100lb bench
1x5 155lb deadlift