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Well, as many of you may or may not know, I do not have access to proper weights. And currently, I cannot get a gym membership. Without said proper weights, I've been debating if filling a backpack full of books (or rocks) would be good for workouts, such as squats.

As for proper weight lifting, I took one class in my freshman year of high school, but we were never instructed on what to do, and were left just sitting around randomly lifting things without form or really any structure. So I'm not well versed at all in lifting weights. Which is why I need your help in four areas:
How does one properly stretch?
What exercises should I do?
How do I properly execute these exercises?
What are the differences in building strength versus endurance?

I know that Steve is probably going to refer me to the eatmoveimprove website, but the articles are very long, and I usually don't have the time to read one before I have to go do something. Furthermore if you guys are going to recommend that I buy something, please don't. My parents will not pay for anything I want to get, and I currently don't have a job.
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Re: Fitness - Building muscle strength, endurance, and flexibility?
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2011, 12:44:08 PM »
I know that Steve is probably going to refer me to the eatmoveimprove website, but the articles are very long, and I usually don't have the time to read one before I have to go do something.

Really?  You have time to come on the apk forum, browse threads, and make posts, but you don't have time to read an article?

Why should anyone spend time trying to summarize readily available information for someone who isn't even willing to put in the time to read in the first place?

If you want to learn you have to put in the effort.  Go read the sticky.
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Re: Fitness - Building muscle strength, endurance, and flexibility?
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2011, 10:13:45 PM »

How does one properly stretch?
What exercises should I do?
How do I properly execute these exercises?
What are the differences in building strength versus endurance?


Do you really, honestly think that the answers to these questions can be summed up in anything less than an article?  They are incredibly complicated questions with in depth answers that can't be avoided.  If you don't want to be bothered researching it then you can always just follow infomercials [WTF]
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Re: Fitness - Building muscle strength, endurance, and flexibility?
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2011, 02:57:07 AM »
Uh, good luck I guess.

If you aren't willing to read what I wrote about more in depth about these types of subjects why would you be reading my forum posts anyway?
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Re: Fitness - Building muscle strength, endurance, and flexibility?
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2011, 06:29:00 AM »
Nobody HAS the time. You have to MAKE the time. If its important enough to you, you'll make the time. Read the articles. Its like gold.

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Re: Fitness - Building muscle strength, endurance, and flexibility?
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2011, 11:08:09 PM »
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Re: Fitness - Building muscle strength, endurance, and flexibility?
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2011, 08:45:22 PM »
To answer your questions in order:

Filling a backpack full of... stuff... is only an okay idea if it doesn't pull you out of form. For example, a pushup with weight on your back is fine. A squat with weight on your back is not fine because the weight would be pushing you straight down, from your shoulders to your feet, and the backpack will be pulling you backwards off center, causing you to lose form, which is not good in weighted exercises and is dangerous (not only that you could fall over, but that you could mess up your spine, neck, etc.).

To stretch, look it up on Google. Stretching is something so fundamental that any professional or semi-professional can tell you how to do it. It's also something that people constantly try to improve by developing new techniques, so information about it is found everywhere. If you're looking at a guide to stretching that claims to have a new and better solution than before, always consider that the old school way to exercise (and stretch) is probably the best way, and don't fall for anything unless it has real solid evidence that has totally convinced you.

What exercises? (see: response to final question)

How to do them? Look it up. Exercises are incredibly simple until you get into highly dynamic workouts, like windshield wipers and plyometrics. Take instructions on how to do an exercise as literally and basically as they're put. Don't think too hard about it, just try it with light weight first and you'll feel how to do it right. Remember that the harder it is the better you're doing it, but it should never hurt or feel restricted the first few times you do it, only after you're tired and on your last repetitions.

What are the differences between strength and endurance? Oh buddy, you just opened a can of popular inquiry. By that I mean you have asked something that far too many people ask, and has been answered hundreds of times in hundreds of places. I will give you my short answer, but beg that you Google it for your own sake: Strength is your maximum output. This is how much you can lift if you want to. Endurance is your ability to last. This is how long you can lift something, or how far you can sprint. To TRAIN them, simply DO them. Remember that. If you want to train your strength to become stronger and able to lift more weight, add more weight. You're not going for how many times you can lift it, so don't lift it many times (heavy weight, sets of 5-8 depending on exercise), instead simply lift more. If you want to train endurance, skip the heavy weight stuff and lift for time or many reps (sets of 15-20 depending on exercise, or unlimited reps for 1-2 minutes depending on exercise).

One piece of advice is that you CAN train strength without weights. Consider using leverage to your disadvantage in order to make things heavier than they are. For example, I bet you can lift a 6 pack of soda just fine, but I challenge you to do 10 reps of shoulder flies with that 6 pack (shoulder flies are simply lifting with a straight arm out to your side, extended all the way away from you, lifting all the way up until your arm is horizontal).

Another bit of advice for parkour is to skip the biases of strength/endurance, core/legs/upper, explosive/passive, and simply train in ways that emulate what you want to improve. For example, find the thing you want to do better and emulate its movements. If this thing is kong vaults then, do plyos or squats to strengthen your jump, and pushups to strengthen your push-off. You could also do 'ground kongs' which are found in APK's exercise archives. Remember the rule of strength/endurance IF your goal is to improve your movement in a specific way. If you want to make your kongs bigger and longer, add weight to your squats/pushups and do less. If you want to do more kongs, and be less worn out afterwards, then add no weight to these exercises and do lots of them. Parkour is about working smart so you don't have to work hard. You can train smart by using the movements you do to train the movements you do, this way every bit of muscle is used to its fullest advantage.

One last word: Parkour is a sport/discipline/activity/art of easily accomplished movements. Nothing here takes much physical force, with the exception of very few movements. Don't worry about your strength or endurance until you master the technique. When I help new people learn movements, the weakest link is ALWAYS the same: Confidence, and Coordination (unless they were previously a gymnast/martial artist/etc). They think they can't do it only because they're unfamiliar with the movement, which creates the illusion of not being strong or flexible enough. You should make sure you know your limits before you bother pushing them, you may be able to improve without becoming stronger.

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Re: Fitness - Building muscle strength, endurance, and flexibility?
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2011, 07:01:50 AM »
Original poster, please disregard Tao's post. I could spend an hour ripping, but instead I'll just regurgitate "Parkour is a sport/discipline/activity/art of easily accomplished movements. Nothing here takes much physical force, with the exception of very few movements," and say, "Really?"

Stretching: Movement compensation: many modern folk have pattern overload, like sitting too much. That example leads to tight hip flexors, which will cause your body to handle forces in an inefficient manner. If you still possess movement compensation, then corrective static stretching should be your main priority. Hold tension on knots for 20 seconds or so and the muscle will relax itself through autogenic inhibition.
                Reciprocal inhibition: a more active stretch is prescribed after sessions of static stretching have done their job. Active isolated stretches focus on increasing range of motion of individual joints, and are accomplished by using the antagonist (muscle on the other side [quad/hammy]) to relax the muscle being stretched. Stretch out the joint by pulling on it with the antagonist, hold 1-2s, and repeat 5-10 times per muscle.
                Dynamic stretching: Once you're flexibility is pretty on point, go through your body's full ROM fairly explosively for a good warmup.
                Ballistic stretching: Heard it's actually great for power training if applied after autogenically inhibiting the muscle. Look this one up for yourself, I don't entirely know, but it seems right.

Exercise selection: Drills to improve balance, both stabilization and movement core musculature, ground reaction forces, and speed, agility, and quickness are just as important as resistance training. Try holding single legs extended in the sagittal, frontal, and transverse planes. Single leg squats. Single leg touchdowns. Variations on prone iso-abs, bridge, cobra, bicycles. Landing drills, step ups, box jump. Cone/line drills in sprint, shuffle, and carioca step. Advance all skills slowly in a progression that includes not just sets and reps, but adding directional challenge, proprioceptive challenge (do it on the ball, basically), and progressing from static to movement, with increasing tempo.
                          Resistance training: a great tool, the weight. Adding a block of whatever to an exercise for each body part will make you very strong, if done right. I recommend vertical loading, going top to bottom one body part at a time, and then repeating from the top for more sets. Stability resistance training is sort of important for parkour, as movements must be done with particular importance to balance and grace or else it becomes freerunning [joke. jk. rofl.] For this, use a lighter block of whatever, and do it in a way that challenges your balance, from single leg variations to the railing, to the wobbly railing, and one set of 12-24 reps per body part. For strength, possibly in supersets with stability, wink wink, do 8-12 reps per body part, and as far as sets go, if you're doing too many, add weight. For power, take the block and toss it. Explosive strength, wooooo pk4life. Just take that last piece of advice from the last paragraph and apply it here, too.
                         For a how-to for every exercise under the sun, try exrx.net.

Strength vs. Endurance: Train Stability Endurance for Strength Endurance for Power Endurance for MAX POWER. Lets look at running. A runner must be strong, smart, and go for hours if he is to run an antelope to death. A good runner is balanced, and has a great core, and is quick and powerful, because the strikes must be strong to keep the machine going, and fast to be efficient (180bpm) and you'll notice their head is erect and doesn't bobble. If you could just run easy, you can run some more. STABILITY ENDURANCE! If you could just run some more, you can run harder hills. STRENGTH ENDURANCE! If you could just run harder hills, you can run hard, anywhere. POWER ENDURANCE! Freerunning ... MAX POWER!
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Re: Fitness - Building muscle strength, endurance, and flexibility?
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2011, 08:21:06 AM »
 [WTF]

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Re: Fitness - Building muscle strength, endurance, and flexibility?
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2011, 08:29:52 AM »
Do you really, honestly think that the answers to these questions can be summed up in anything less than an article?  They are incredibly complicated questions with in depth answers that can't be avoided.  If you don't want to be bothered researching it then you can always just follow infomercials [WTF]
Deadly Tao and TwitchKidd just did.

They're not incredibly complicated questions, bro.

Someone asks me "Hey, how do I become strong enough to do a pull-up?"
I can go:
"Allright, go find a tree branch or pull-up bar. Now find something you can stand on under the branch/bar so that your chin is level to the bar. Stand on that thing, grab the bar, and lift your feet up off of it trying to hold yourself by just your arms and let yourself down slowly without using your legs. These are called negative pull-ups. Now you can go through the full range of motion using your legs for minimal assistance, making sure your arms are doing all the work they can. Do these enough until you can do one full pull-up, then practice those from there."
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Re: Fitness - Building muscle strength, endurance, and flexibility?
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2011, 09:36:13 AM »
Deadly Tao and TwitchKidd just did.

They're not incredibly complicated questions, bro.

Someone asks me "Hey, how do I become strong enough to do a pull-up?"
I can go:
"Allright, go find a tree branch or pull-up bar. Now find something you can stand on under the branch/bar so that your chin is level to the bar. Stand on that thing, grab the bar, and lift your feet up off of it trying to hold yourself by just your arms and let yourself down slowly without using your legs. These are called negative pull-ups. Now you can go through the full range of motion using your legs for minimal assistance, making sure your arms are doing all the work they can. Do these enough until you can do one full pull-up, then practice those from there."

No, THEY ARE very complicated questions. You can't answer how to stretch, and how to execute exercises properly in a small paragraph. Neither of their responses really answered the questions at all. You gave an example of how to train for a pull-up, that is ONE EXERCISE. You asked how to properly execute ALL exercises. Every exercise is different and pages can be written about each one. Your questions are extraordinarily vague and it is not possible to answer them without doing your own research or being taught by a coach for a long time.

and you gave no goals. No one can tell you what exercises to do if you give no goals

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Re: Fitness - Building muscle strength, endurance, and flexibility?
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2011, 10:59:38 AM »
You asked how to properly execute ALL exercises.
and you gave no goals. No one can tell you what exercises to do if you give no goals
Nope.
I asked what exercises I should do.
I then asked how to do those.
As for goals, well, I want to be able to do a muscle-up, and build up leg and back flexibility.
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Re: Fitness - Building muscle strength, endurance, and flexibility?
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2011, 12:25:53 PM »
Sorry to not be productive, but I feel a need to write this:

lol.

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Re: Fitness - Building muscle strength, endurance, and flexibility?
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2011, 12:38:18 PM »
It's cool David.  8)
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Re: Fitness - Building muscle strength, endurance, and flexibility?
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2011, 02:53:54 PM »
Nope.
I asked what exercises I should do.
I then asked how to do those.
As for goals, well, I want to be able to do a muscle-up, and build up leg and back flexibility.

Yes, but without a goal all exercises are potential, and so essentially the only way to answer your original question was to somehow teach you how to do a ton of different exercises. There are reasons one can obtain a Phd in exercise science, it's a complex subject, your questions are extremely broad no matter what. Just take the time and do your own research, you'll learn a hell of a lot more

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Re: Fitness - Building muscle strength, endurance, and flexibility?
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2011, 03:12:28 PM »
Yes, but without a goal all exercises are potential, and so essentially the only way to answer your original question was to somehow teach you how to do a ton of different exercises. There are reasons one can obtain a Phd in exercise science, it's a complex subject, your questions are extremely broad no matter what. Just take the time and do your own research, you'll learn a hell of a lot more

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Re: Fitness - Building muscle strength, endurance, and flexibility?
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2011, 05:35:10 PM »
Don't bother. If people want to wallow in their own ignorance they will. Just look at most of the country.

Yea, I hear ya

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Re: Fitness - Building muscle strength, endurance, and flexibility?
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2011, 06:44:11 PM »
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Re: Fitness - Building muscle strength, endurance, and flexibility?
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2011, 09:55:12 AM »
I dont wanna make a new thread about a simple question.

Would this work out be beneficial to Parkour?

http://www.thesealteams.com/SEAL_workouts/