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« on: January 20, 2011, 06:41:43 PM »
Due to mid-terms, varsity hockey, and trying to unf#ck myself because of the crappy work I've been doing in school... I've been tired, like really tired. I'm having to go to sleep at around 12-1 on some nights and waking up at 6, and then doing it again.
Long story short: 3 tests today, my friend gave me an energy pill (don't know what brand or whatnot). Anyway, it worked and I felt great.
What are the downsides to energy supplements?
Things such as B12 supplements, 5-hour energy, etc.
are they really bad?
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Re: Energy
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2011, 06:58:48 PM »
I'm guessing theyaffect people differently just like caffiene, sleeping pills, painkillers etc.

Everything in moderation is probably your friend here, otherwise you may end up not being able to function with out them.

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Re: Energy
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2011, 07:28:09 PM »
Well, with vitamins, if you take more than your body can handle, you pee it out (neon pee). Pharmaceutical drugs aren't great, especially since they are filtered through the liver ( I believe) and are illegal if you don't have a prescription.

And what I've found with 5 hour energies, they work, but the more you use them, the less they work, as your body adapts. But that is my response to it, yours could be different.

The best way is to get the nutrients needed through natural intake, like veggies. And fruits are great for a quick source of energy with all their natural sugars.

I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will be around to help you further.
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Re: Energy
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2011, 12:57:05 AM »
The downsides can range from pretty much nothing to death...depending on the user and what you took.  (Seriously, I don't think I'd take something without knowing what it was.)

Here's a few decent links:
http://health.msn.com/mens-health/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100142822
http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-and-supplements/lifestyle-guide-11/energy-boosters-can-supplements-and-vitamins-help
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Re: Energy
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2011, 07:30:54 AM »
Thanks for the help everyone, so basically
-Moderation
-Fruits for quick energy

(Seriously, I don't think I'd take something without knowing what it was.)
I of course would never do this with anyone else, this guy is like my brother. We're 2 houses away and we'd do anything for each other.
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Re: Energy
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2011, 08:16:41 AM »
Go to bed earlier.
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Re: Energy
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2011, 08:23:26 AM »
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Re: Energy
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2011, 11:54:46 AM »
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Re: Energy
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2011, 01:14:57 PM »
There is no substitute for sleep. No stimulant, pharmaceutical, food, drink, supplement or anything else can make up for lost hours of sleep.

If you have too much to do, manage your time better.
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Re: Energy
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2011, 03:08:52 PM »
In a perfect world, we'd all sleep better, but as a father of 3 with a full time job, I understand that the world isn't perfect.  Use good judgement, and try to manage time better, but I can totally relate.  When I was in college, I don't think I was getting more than 5 hours of sleep a night.
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Re: Energy
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2011, 04:57:19 PM »
In a perfect world, we'd all sleep better, but as a father of 3 with a full time job, I understand that the world isn't perfect.  Use good judgement, and try to manage time better, but I can totally relate.  When I was in college, I don't think I was getting more than 5 hours of sleep a night.

I find when most people say this, they aren't being honest with themselves.  Not saying that is your case, as you are obviously running around, but for a college student it actually pays more to cut out 2-3 hours of studying and get the sleep.  When I started spending less time studying by going to bed earlier and making 1-2 hours a day for the gym, my grades actually rocketed in college.  For reference, I graduated with high honors in Computer Engineering  after starting out my first 2 quarters with a 2.6 GPA.

If you are being honest with yourself, and you really CAN'T get that much sleep, then there is no substitute.  You need to suck it up, and fight through it, as most hard times in life.  Taking caffeine pills, drinking coffee, etc. will help as short term solutions for the tired feeling, but the benefits of sleep will still elude you until you make time in your lifestyle for sleep.

Getting more than 8 hours of sleep IS an option for 99% of the population, people just put other shit on top of their list aside from sleep - like spending time on an online forum or playing video games or training parkour, for example.  Sleep is a fundamental need for survival, and to put that below anything on your list (barring anything like children) for an extended period of time is a folly, in my opinion.
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Re: Energy
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2011, 06:44:03 PM »
people just put other shit on top of their list aside from sleep - like spending time on an online forum or playing video games or training parkour, for example. 

You make a very strong point there. :)
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Re: Energy
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2011, 08:29:05 PM »
He be right. I spend every night battling with the concept that, "Eh, I'll go to bed in one more hour."

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Re: Energy
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2011, 09:11:46 PM »
I wouldn't call training, varsity sports, or studying "shit on a list"
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Re: Energy
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2011, 09:47:03 PM »
I wouldn't call training, varsity sports, or studying "shit on a list"


Compared to eating, sleeping, shitting and breathing, those things are "shit on a list" imho, though I suppose I could have chosen less biting words.

People always make time to breathe and shit; but some people try to take the express route through the eating and sleeping, which always ends badly.  If you are putting things more important than your basic physiological functions, I would say that your priorities are out of order.  Thats my opinion, though, so what is that worth, anyway?
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Re: Energy
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2011, 09:53:46 PM »
You make very valid points, but believe me... I never miss a meal :P
I'll try to work out a healthier sleep schedule. (only reason i'm up this late is because tomorrow I can sleep in until 1pm if i wanted to
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Re: Energy
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2011, 09:37:18 AM »
If you have time to post on a message board that's like at least 30-60 minutes that you can spend more time sleeping.

That's not counting other wasted time.

I highly doubt that you have hockey practice more than 20 hours a week. We had gymnastics practice 4.5 hrs a day for 5 days a week and sometimes 6. That's 22-26 hours a week... for most gymnasts that's pretty standard.

That's on top of school/homework/ and whatever else is going on in your life.

When school ends at like 2-3 and you go to practice from 4-8.5 you get your homework done and eat when you get home you can definitely get to bed by 10-11 most of the time at the very latest AND you can cram in homework between school and practice too..... and during school.... and you have weekends.

I don't rreally buy any excuses for not being able to get enough sleep in high school. It's your own fault if you are.

I know people who had to work FULL TIME JOBS (40 hrs/week), go to night school (usually 15-20 hrs week), AND raise a family. THAT is busy.

School + sports is not busy.

You can take energy supplements but if you continue to take them they will probably mess you up int he long run
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Re: Energy
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2011, 05:06:46 PM »
Wait a minute...this is HIGH SCHOOL?

Get to bed.  No excuses...
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Re: Energy
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2011, 05:17:03 PM »
Wait a minute...this is HIGH SCHOOL?

Ha!

Was drinking something at the time, sir.

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Re: Energy
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2011, 08:05:38 PM »
Ok, I started to adjust my schedule so I can get a minimum of 8 hours of sleep a night.
Thanks for the wake up call (no pun intended)
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