Topic: Youtube Exercise Videos

[Michael Mayer]

Have you all seen any of the P4P videos on youtube of bodyweight exercises?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_791154&v=kIaqbrWBexY

Any thoughts, comments whether they are good or bad?

[TimothyJS]

The video you posted is diabolical.  All it is is lots of sets of pushups... I can do those without the help of a vid.  You can't work your 'inner chest' any more than you can work your middle thigh.

[Steven Low]

If yuo want to be good at pushups go for it.

If you want to be strong then dont do that.

[Michael Mayer]

Ok, what would you suggest. And please don't just copy and paste another link to starting strength. I have been there, I have looked at that. Frankly, I have been weight training for five years, and I am looking for something advanced and something other than the same old same old grind.

[Hazim Salem]

http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/03/the-fundamentals-of-bodyweight-strength-training/

[Steven Low]

http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/03/the-fundamentals-of-bodyweight-strength-training/

[Kyle L Larson]

Manna/Planche/Lever progressions are fuuuunn.

[Brett Robert]

Ok, what would you suggest. And please don't just copy and paste another link to starting strength. I have been there, I have looked at that. Frankly, I have been weight training for five years, and I am looking for something advanced and something other than the same old same old grind.

Just because you've been lifting for 5 years doesn't mean there isn't more to learn about it.  If you need to take a break from it, cool, I totally understand, been there.  Still, 5 years is hardly enough time to gain maximum strength or learn everything there is to know about lifting, or programming, especially when combined with other activities.

I believe I took my first weights class in 1996 or so.  I still have a lot to learn.  When I came in here I thought I knew some shit, but all I had in my head was a bunch of third-hand myths based from buddies who read industry fitness rags and years of coaches from various schools and disciplines who'd all disagreed with one another.  Not saying that's the case with you, or everyone else that comes in here, but there's always something new to learn.

I used to do judo with a judoka who just missed the Olympic team after getting injured in the qualifying match.  After not seeing her for awhile I ran into her at the gym and she couldn't stop raving about training no-gi with the BJJ guys at the local MMA gym because she was learning so much new stuff.

[Steven Low]

Just because you've been lifting for 5 years doesn't mean there isn't more to learn about it.  If you need to take a break from it, cool, I totally understand, been there.  Still, 5 years is hardly enough time to gain maximum strength or learn everything there is to know about lifting, or programming, especially when combined with other activities.

I believe I took my first weights class in 1996 or so.  I still have a lot to learn.  When I came in here I thought I knew some shit, but all I had in my head was a bunch of third-hand myths based from buddies who read industry fitness rags and years of coaches from various schools and disciplines who'd all disagreed with one another.  Not saying that's the case with you, or everyone else that comes in here, but there's always something new to learn.

I used to do judo with a judoka who just missed the Olympic team after getting injured in the qualifying match.  After not seeing her for awhile I ran into her at the gym and she couldn't stop raving about training no-gi with the BJJ guys at the local MMA gym because she was learning so much new stuff.

The fact that he's asking means he doesn't know much and probably doesn't have much strength. But I'll let that slide.

I know people who have been working out for more than 10-15 years and they're still "beginners" meaning they could benefit extensively from SS.

Your average gymgoer is like this. You know... the guys that only do biceps and bench press.

[Gabe Arnold]

If you want youtube exercise videos, you might like Diesel Crew's stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/thedieselcrew#p/u
http://www.youtube.com/musclevip

They're essentially big indexes of how to perform hundreds of exercises, stretches, and routines, with lots of videos also devoted to tips and information on strength building and performance enhancement. There's a bit of fluff in the fact you don't really need that much variety, but it's fun to watch and can give you lots of ideas.

Beyond that, what everyone else said.

[Michael Mayer]

The fact that he's asking means he doesn't know much and probably doesn't have much strength. But I'll let that slide.

I know people who have been working out for more than 10-15 years and they're still "beginners" meaning they could benefit extensively from SS.

Your average gymgoer is like this. You know... the guys that only do biceps and bench press.

How wrong you are though, I have been training and researching programming for years. I detest that I would be compared to those who simply work biceps and bench press and my 235 hang clean can atest to that. The reason I was asking, is because I am new to bodyweight routines and exercises, so yes I am a beginner in that regard but I would not say I am a beginner in the weight room.

[Steven Low]

How wrong you are though, I have been training and researching programming for years. I detest that I would be compared to those who simply work biceps and bench press and my 235 hang clean can atest to that. The reason I was asking, is because I am new to bodyweight routines and exercises, so yes I am a beginner in that regard but I would not say I am a beginner in the weight room.

Then why not indicate in your post that you can DL 2+ your bodyweight or something.

The onus falls on the poster to indicate their levels of ability. Most people posting questions here are beginners, so we are going to assume you are a beginner unless your post indicates otherwise.

Especially with an OP like the one you posted.

[Chris [.5gibbon] Stevenson!]

if you can hang clean 235 why do you want to do push-ups with bad form?  thats like saying i have climbed everest and but could someone help me with hiking tips 

[Brett Robert]

OP, I'd suggest looking at Gymnastics Bodies and Beast Skills, as well as EatMoveImprove.  Those three sites contain lots of information, and some tutorials, about gymnastics strength skills, which are what this board generally recommends as far as upper-body bodyweight strength training. 

Your bodyweight big 3 are going to be planche, back lever, and front lever (someone correct me if I'm wrong).  As you may already know, lower body and posterior chain are going to be harder to train without barbells.  You may want to keep squatting for simplicity's sake.  If not, Natural Leg Curls/Glute Ham Raise (NLC/GHR) are excellent for the posterior chain, and combining sprints and plyos should round out the whole program rather nicely.

Honestly, I'm not entirely sure how to program these exercises if it's a bodyweight only program, but either one of those sites, or someone else here may have better specific feedback on that.  I've always used levers as assistance exercises and thrown them into a modified Starting Strength split.