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% of running in your routine?
« on: November 01, 2010, 07:12:16 PM »
To those that include running in their routine:
How much of your weekly work/training is just running?

I'm looking to increase my cardio to the point of being able to do a 1.5 M run without stopping(my current cardio= :'() and would you say running alone helped your cardio and time or was it a combination of the running and any other exercises you may have incorporated?
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Re: % of running in your routine?
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2010, 07:16:58 PM »
well is that your ONLY goal? Just to be able to run a longer distance?

If that is your ONLY goal, cardiov. fitness, simply run often, increasing mileage by about 10 % or slightly lower a week.  and eat pretty cleanly, that'll be a large part of it.

so if your running like, a fourth of a mile at a time without stopping, do that once or twice, then go a little further, and you'll adapt and be able to run further and further.
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Re: % of running in your routine?
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2010, 07:34:28 PM »
Thanks for your answer! No it isn't my only goal, but I felt it was a good explanation on why I would ask the question.
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Re: % of running in your routine?
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2010, 06:40:21 AM »
Running is not part of my routine.

If it were, which it will be in a bit, I am only going to be working sprinting.

Anything more than 400m is likely useless for Parkour related activities.
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Re: % of running in your routine?
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2010, 10:14:50 PM »
I'm training for a 5K (3.1 mi).  I run 3 times a week: Mondays I run 800m intervals, Wednesdays 100m sprints, and Friday or Saturday I run 3-4 mi. 

A lot of people run everyday, some people run 100+ mi a week, though no traceur should do that if the goal is improving parkour-specific fitness.

Is your overall goal to improve your "cardio" or to run 1.5 mi without stopping?  I'd recommend different routines for different answers to that question.

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Re: % of running in your routine?
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2010, 10:20:06 PM »
Splitting "cardio" and the nonstop 1.5 mile up, I would say the cardio is the actual goal while the distance was more of an attempt to make the "Cardio" into a solid goal.
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Re: % of running in your routine?
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2010, 11:02:44 PM »
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Though I had trained mid distance in the past (5-10k).  Not again for a long time, though as I never found it too fun (it was at times, though) and it isn't really conducive to any of my goals...
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Re: % of running in your routine?
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2010, 11:46:59 PM »
Splitting "cardio" and the nonstop 1.5 mile up, I would say the cardio is the actual goal while the distance was more of an attempt to make the "Cardio" into a solid goal.

In that case, most of us here would recommend either metcons (use the search feature/Google, or see Crossfit for sample workouts) or HIIT (high intensity interval training), or both.

You can do intervals ("sprints" or max effort for certain distance) on a bike, swimming, running, even jump roping.

Do a Google search for "Tabata protocol" as well.

The 1.5 mi goal isn't necessarily "bad," but it doesn't directly translate to parkour.  If you have another reason to run that distance, no worries.

If you only want to have the benefit for parkour, I'd suggest running 400m sprints two or three days a week.  Go to your local high school/junior college and run a lap around the track: that's 400m (if it's a standard-size track, around the football field).  Rest 5 minutes between sprints.  Try 4-6 sprints, make sure you run as hard as you can for a pace that you can keep up for the whole lap. 

It should be really hard and you should feel exhausted afterward.  By the time you go to start your last sprint, you should feel like you want to jump into your computer, magically travel through the internet, find me and destroy me and my unborn children cell by cell for suggesting you do something sooooo f#cking exhausting.  That's how you know you're doing it right.

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Re: % of running in your routine?
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2010, 06:10:10 PM »
My training routine consists of 0% running. I'm trying to gain weight. In fact, I'm trying to get up to 180 pounds by track season.
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Re: % of running in your routine?
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2010, 10:52:01 PM »
I have a related question.

Running is not part of my routine.

If it were, which it will be in a bit, I am only going to be working sprinting.

Anything more than 400m is likely useless for Parkour related activities.

What if you wanted to be able to perform parkour over an extended distance or perhaps just continuously perform parkour in a smaller area?
Would sprints still be more effective to train or should some distance be added or what?
I realize that sprints will work your speed but will it provide the endurance for the above?

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Re: % of running in your routine?
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2010, 12:11:09 AM »
What if you wanted to be able to perform parkour over an extended distance or perhaps just continuously perform parkour in a smaller area?
Would sprints still be more effective to train or should some distance be added or what?
I realize that sprints will work your speed but will it provide the endurance for the above?

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Re: % of running in your routine?
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2010, 01:41:14 AM »
Bookmarked it :D
You were right, that answered it perfectly!
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Re: % of running in your routine?
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2010, 11:34:29 AM »
Running is not part of my routine.

If it were, which it will be in a bit, I am only going to be working sprinting.

Anything more than 400m is likely useless for Parkour related activities.

Not really there is no reason an obstacle course has to be 400 meters or less, Occasionaly I would like to be able to do 3 mile courses for instance. As far as developing the power to do impressive movements for videos or impressing people at a jam more then 400 meters won't really transfer but to be honest there is no reason to sprint more then 60 meters for that purpose.
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Re: % of running in your routine?
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2010, 10:13:44 PM »
Yeah, but I wasn't out to impress anyone anyway :P
I just wanted to be able to keep going and going and going and going...
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Re: % of running in your routine?
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2010, 11:30:34 PM »
Bookmarked it :D
You were right, that answered it perfectly!
Thanks for the link

You're welcome.  I ended up reading again while I had the window open, so thank you!  It refreshed my memory.

Yeah, but I wasn't out to impress anyone anyway :P
I just wanted to be able to keep going and going and going and going...

I don't think Rafe meant to suggest you were.

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Re: % of running in your routine?
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2010, 12:01:52 AM »
Of course not, Rafe was just being helpful
Of course I'd like to be impressive, who wouldn't? I was just saying that wasn't my primary focus. Lucky for me, I'll be training both power for the impressive movements and the endurance for the longer traces/training sessions at once. This appears to be a win
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Re: % of running in your routine?
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2010, 09:12:51 AM »
Not really there is no reason an obstacle course has to be 400 meters or less, Occasionaly I would like to be able to do 3 mile courses for instance. As far as developing the power to do impressive movements for videos or impressing people at a jam more then 400 meters won't really transfer but to be honest there is no reason to sprint more then 60 meters for that purpose.

You know as well as I do that good 400m runners will still have excellent 1 mile times or longer for our purposes. Especially if they're running 400m repeats.

That's why I suggest no longer than 400m. Getting faster int he 0-400m range still has some fairly good middle endurance benefits
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Re: % of running in your routine?
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2010, 10:04:19 AM »
You know as well as I do that good 400m runners will still have excellent 1 mile times or longer for our purposes. Especially if they're running 400m repeats.

That's why I suggest no longer than 400m. Getting faster int he 0-400m range still has some fairly good middle endurance benefits

True I pressed comment a a bit to soon. I do think for individuals with specific goals occasional longer work is worthwhile though if the want to express that development in parkour they need to do be doing parkour for those lengths and time periods not just running.
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Re: % of running in your routine?
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2010, 04:32:01 PM »
I don't run at all yet.


I do have a question(s) though. Basket ball helps your Cardiov right? And would playing intense basket ball be helpfull with PK other than just getting stronger.

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Re: % of running in your routine?
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2010, 04:37:03 PM »
I don't run at all yet.


I do have a question(s) though. Basket ball helps your Cardiov right? And would playing intense basket ball be helpfull with PK other than just getting stronger.

Basketball won't really help you get stronger.  Granted, there's lots of leaping, so you may see some benefit from that... but playing basketball to "condition" for parkour is a very inefficient use of your time.  It will have some benefit for "cardio," but there are better ways to train your metabolic pathways.

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