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ACTA (comments and stances?)
« on: August 22, 2010, 08:23:15 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement

I've been told the contents of this have been very secretive though it is likely going to be used to censor a LOT of content on the internet. Not only that but it has violations of the constitution (the 4th, because it will make it so any company that "thinks" you might be illegally downloading their stuff they can demand a log of all your internet activity without warrant or even probably cause for that matter).

I'm against it because I haven't heard anything positive and from what I know, it sounds like the government is just trying to control what we get to see on the internet (which is ALSO against the constitution).

If you oppose I've come into contact with a handy little link to bomb the search of "ACTA unconstitutional" on yahoo, bing, and google 3 times each with a refresh rate of once per 1 or 2 seconds.

http://anti-acta.com/bomb.htm

EDIT: I hope this isn't deemed to be against the rules of the forum. If it is I would completely understand that this thread gets deleted, and I'm sorry for such an offense  ;)
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Re: ACTA (comments and stances?)
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2010, 08:35:56 PM »
They're stupid.
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Re: ACTA (comments and stances?)
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2010, 08:54:05 PM »

Emma     : ...With the newly created system, they can fully regulate digital
             information. High-level information can be categorized in stages,
             given clearance levels, and deleted as necessary -- never to be
             seen by the public. By deleting such information, the Patriots
             can shape the course of history as they see fit.

Raiden     :Somebody's bound to catch on --

Emma       :No. The memory capacity -- not to mention the life span -- of the
             average individual is extremely limited. On the other hand,
             digital information lasts virtually forever... it doesn't
             deteriorate.

Raiden     :So...?

Emma       :The alphabet... twenty-six letters, right? It could've been
             thirty letters. What if the 4 deleted letters were controlled by
             a program?

Raiden     :Impossible.

Emma       :It's not. In fact, something similar is already underway. Do you
             know how many genes exist in an individual?

Raiden     :About 30 to 40 thousand?

Emma       :Right. That's what was announced at the turn of the century. But
             there's actually 100 thousand, according to the original theory
             advanced by the scientific community. Information regarding the
             remaining 60 thousand was suppressed by the Patriots.

Raiden     :No...?

Emma       :Why? How would you know? Do you know what a gene looks like? Did
             you count them yourself?

Raiden     :There are research organizations...

Emma       :Of course... and their reports have already been subtly altered.
             They're even beginning to believe the doctored reports. GW is a
             system that allows the Patriots to decide what will be recorded
             in tomorrow's history.

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Re: ACTA (comments and stances?)
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2010, 08:57:57 PM »
i have been completely against this act, its stupid and wrong.
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Re: ACTA (comments and stances?)
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2010, 03:24:42 AM »
CoughPatriotActCough

This is how the government has been doing things lately. The government claims it would be better for them to control the internet in case of a "national security measure"
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Re: ACTA (comments and stances?)
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2010, 03:53:37 AM »
Tex, this was the thing you showed me a while back...

Turns out an iPod completely full of pirated music is the most valuable item in the world. Food for thought. (IE, you'd get a lifetime jail sentence :P)

EDIT: Got about 2900x9 searches.
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Re: ACTA (comments and stances?)
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2010, 05:14:40 AM »
I saw stance and thought of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqRcObN8LUE
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Re: ACTA (comments and stances?)
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2010, 09:42:15 AM »
Tex, this was the thing you showed me a while back...

Turns out an iPod completely full of pirated music is the most valuable item in the world. Food for thought. (IE, you'd get a lifetime jail sentence :P)

EDIT: Got about 2900x9 searches.

yeah, this whole thing is unconstitutional.
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Re: ACTA (comments and stances?)
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2010, 09:53:42 AM »


ANTI-ACTA Stencil.
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Re: ACTA (comments and stances?)
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2010, 11:01:37 AM »
CoughPatriotActCough
So, I have stuff to say about this comment, but then we'd be in dangerous territory. Let's be careful. It would be best not to make a context-less comment such as this, since I could easily misinterpret it and start some brouhaha.


You guys should also look into the Googlezon agreement. It's pretty messed up too.
http://io9.com/5610328/how-the-googleverizon-proposal-could-kill-the-internet-in-5-years
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Re: ACTA (comments and stances?)
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2010, 12:52:06 PM »
GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH

SMASH, KILL, RRRRAAAAAAPPPPPEEE!

I. WILL. NOT. HAVE THIS BULLSHIT!

I WILL GO ON A PERSONAL BLOOD CRUSADE TO ELIMINATE AND ANNIHILATE EVERY SINGLE BREATHING SACK OF SEMEN THAT DARES TO EVEN TRY TO HAVE THE POWER TO INFRINGE ANY FREEDOM THAT SHOULD BE UNIVERSAL!

MARK MY WORDS, THE HEAD OF VERIZON'S CEO WILL HANG FROM THE HEAVENS AND BE ON DISPLAY TWENTY-FOUR SEVEN ON EVERY JUMBOTRON ON THE PLANET! EVERY STAUNCH SUPPORTER OF THE ACTA WILL WITNESS THEIR SEED TURNED AGAINST THEM, WHILE DEATH FOR THEM NEVER COMES! MY FREEDOM MEANS MORE THAN THE LIFE OF THOSE WHO TRY TO TAKE IT!
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Re: ACTA (comments and stances?)
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2010, 01:13:15 PM »
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Re: ACTA (comments and stances?)
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2010, 01:48:35 PM »
GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH

SMASH, KILL, RRRRAAAAAAPPPPPEEE!

I. WILL. NOT. HAVE THIS BULLSHIT!

I WILL GO ON A PERSONAL BLOOD CRUSADE TO ELIMINATE AND ANNIHILATE EVERY SINGLE BREATHING SACK OF SEMEN THAT DARES TO EVEN TRY TO HAVE THE POWER TO INFRINGE ANY FREEDOM THAT SHOULD BE UNIVERSAL!

MARK MY WORDS, THE HEAD OF VERIZON'S CEO WILL HANG FROM THE HEAVENS AND BE ON DISPLAY TWENTY-FOUR SEVEN ON EVERY JUMBOTRON ON THE PLANET! EVERY STAUNCH SUPPORTER OF THE ACTA WILL WITNESS THEIR SEED TURNED AGAINST THEM, WHILE DEATH FOR THEM NEVER COMES! MY FREEDOM MEANS MORE THAN THE LIFE OF THOSE WHO TRY TO TAKE IT!

and this is why i love Spencer. people need to not f#ck with our internet.
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Re: ACTA (comments and stances?)
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2010, 06:52:21 PM »
+1 internets to you Spencer. haha

I figured no one would like it...

I had 4 tabs of the bombing site up all day... apparently so many people were doing it that we shut down Yahoo's search server as it was out for a few hours (dunno if it still is). I shall do the same tomorrow. If you type "a" on yahoo or bing it's the first thing. Google seems reluctant to bring it to the top (I wonder why?)

You guys should also look into the Googlezon agreement. It's pretty messed up too.
http://io9.com/5610328/how-the-googleverizon-proposal-could-kill-the-internet-in-5-years




Also @Gabe: Have you been replaying the MGS series or something? You've had quite a few quotes lately... haha
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The shadow overtake us, we are known
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Re: ACTA (comments and stances?)
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2010, 06:57:46 PM »
so i just read the thread and now have 10 tabs up :P
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Re: ACTA (comments and stances?)
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2010, 08:13:31 PM »
Also @Gabe: Have you been replaying the MGS series or something? You've had quite a few quotes lately... haha

Nah, I'm just a big fan, especially of the second games in the series. As far as freedom goes..."It's not about changing the world. It's about doing our best to leave the world the way it is."

I remember reading a historical fiction novel a while back about an Arabian area in ancient, biblical times. In it, the technique for writing and alphabets was being developed and the head priest and scholar feared it because it would enable information and knowledge to spread without hindrance, beyond control. He worried that without some kind of authority to oversee the retention and production of information that it cause a collapse of society.

Now instead of worrying about societal collapse, we have people (companies) worrying about losing money/influence. Hmmmm...

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Re: ACTA (comments and stances?)
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2010, 08:32:59 PM »
The second is quite a good one. I'm worried about the next one though...

And that is interesting.. Something to think about indeed
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« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2010, 08:45:18 PM »
Spencer where was your blood crusade when the patriot act and this no fly terrorist list came about, those are violations of our rights already. Btw going on a bloody rampage won't solve anything.
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2010, 02:22:17 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2010, 04:25:42 PM »
Spencer where was your blood crusade when the patriot act and this no fly terrorist list came about, those are violations of our rights already. Btw going on a bloody rampage won't solve anything.

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