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Kong Questions
« on: October 14, 2006, 08:22:28 PM »
Hey everyone, I'm new to parkour(about two weeks) and tonight I was finally able to land a Kong! the only thing about it was that it was a little low, say below waist. My question is if i practice on something this small, will it hinder my ability to do higher ones? Also as a side question, I tried to land a normal size bench the short way (width) and about halfway through i swing my legs to the side, anyone have any ideas? thanks

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Re: Kong Questions
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2006, 08:23:34 AM »
On your side note it is probably fear or a mental block. If your dont belive me I had this same problem and will link you to it http://www.americanparkour.com/smf/index.php/topic,2155.0.html for me It reaklly just was fear and I didn't realize it. as for kong height I have no Idea

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Re: Kong Questions
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2006, 12:27:40 PM »
Practicing on small things won't hinder your ability to kong larger obstacles.  But you must practice konging large obstacles too.  Slowly work you way up.  Work on objects that are high but not wide (like walls), objects that are low and wide (like picknick tables) etc.  You can kong many obstacles but you do it slightly different depending on what you are konging.  PRACTICE PRACTICEPRACTICE!!!! :)

As for swinging to the side, that is just a matter of fear.  You must just clear you mind and then go for it.  Convince yourself that you can and you will be able to do it.

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Re: Kong Questions
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2006, 10:19:00 AM »
And if it is something broad like a picnic table and you believe you can do it.
It'll work!
Only thing that could maybe go wrong is that your legs don't go far enough from a lack of speed. What will happen is your feet will just land on the table, that's all.
For the rest it's just getting over the fear.
Just take a few breaths count to ten, stop thinking about anything and just go!

If you started low kongs. Try to build it up to a higher level. Gradually.
This will crtainly improve your kong and monkey height!

Keep it up!
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Re: Kong Questions
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2006, 09:34:29 AM »

This will crtainly improve your kong and monkey height!


ok, just wondering...wats the difference between kongs and monkey? jw...its always bothered me...
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Re: Kong Questions
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2006, 10:46:24 AM »
It's all sort of confusing. The whole "kong" And "monkey" thing came around whenever Parkour was transported to England. UFF (i think) named a vault over a rail a monkey, and one over a long distance a kong. Now these are VERY similiar in the way you move. It's just slightly different in the objects your going over. And kongs generally require more of a dive. But in general, yeah, they are the same thing almost.


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Re: Kong Questions
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2006, 11:09:02 AM »
see, i thought that when you "dove" over an object to a kong, its considered a king kong. and i had no clue about the monkey thing btw...thx for that. so now, wats the dif between kings and reg kongs...
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Re: Kong Questions
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2006, 11:27:21 AM »
King Kong, is just another word for kong's. So we have, King Kong, Kong, Monkey, and Saut de Chat (SDC). The last one is what the french call it. And they all refer to essentially, the same vault.


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Re: Kong Questions
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2006, 02:52:16 PM »
CyanideSoda:

PHEW. thank you for clearing that up for me. I was as well in confusion.

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Re: Kong Questions
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2006, 03:17:14 PM »
I fear I have lost my distance kongs :(.... I need to build them back up some time.   

Yeah we have to mainy names for the same stuff.  Real all it is, is a way the body moves through and enviroment.  We name them only to discribe easyer an idea to other ppl that your movements and make them you own but make them pratical.
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Re: Kong Questions
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2006, 05:22:48 PM »
Yeah, the names of the movements, or even the movements themselves aren't all that important. It's the purpose behind them that's important.


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Re: Kong Questions
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2006, 04:54:36 PM »
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Re: Kong Questions
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2006, 09:14:39 AM »
Yeah
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Re: Kong Questions
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2007, 06:21:40 PM »
picnic tables work better for kongs.. i consider it a monkey vault when you go off a bench. And yea, at first my legs went to one side, its a mental thing, keep at it and belive me, as long as you trust in yourself and your ability, you can do it.
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Re: Kong Questions
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2007, 06:32:33 PM »
King Kong, is just another word for kong's. So we have, King Kong, Kong, Monkey, and Saut de Chat (SDC). The last one is what the french call it. And they all refer to essentially, the same vault.

You forgot "catpass."

As for kongs...  I started out on really low stuff.  Just progressively get to bigger stuff, taller stuff, etc.  It'll come with time.
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Re: Kong Questions
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2007, 06:31:27 PM »
To clear longer/wider objects you should be running faster. 

I don't get how you can do kongs over high objects.  Because to do a kong you need to get your hips up for your feet to clear but if your jumping up for higher kongs your hips won't get high enough...Can someone explain?

I also don't get how to do a double kong.  Do you know if you should push off on the first hand hit or what?   ???

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Re: Kong Questions
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2007, 06:38:14 PM »
Longer obstacles, if you're using your running momentum to clear it, then your technique is poor.  THis is okay.. but you should work on getting your technique better, not only using your momentum to help you.  Try to clear the same obstacle with less and less of a run-up until you can do it within a few steps.

For higher obstacles...  A lot of it is the jump... a lot of it is also your arms.
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Re: Kong Questions
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2007, 07:13:19 PM »
No I mean for REALLY long jumps...eh I just started parkour so maybe I'm wrong and my technique is probrobly bad.  I notice if I try to clear really long obsticles I end up doing a kash vault...

Is it that I need to jump more or push with my arms more or what?

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Re: Kong Questions
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2007, 07:24:04 PM »
No I mean for REALLY long jumps...eh I just started parkour so maybe I'm wrong and my technique is probrobly bad.  I notice if I try to clear really long obsticles I end up doing a kash vault...

Is it that I need to jump more or push with my arms more or what?

Both.  Use your whole body.  And think of it as one movement.

...So hard to describe in words..  I don't post much here anymore because it's just really difficult to describe to someone.. any movement, really, is difficult to describe.  Best thing you can do is find some locals, man.
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Re: Kong Questions
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2007, 09:05:18 AM »
No I mean for REALLY long jumps...eh I just started parkour so maybe I'm wrong and my technique is probrobly bad.  I notice if I try to clear really long obsticles I end up doing a kash vault...

Is it that I need to jump more or push with my arms more or what?

Both.  Use your whole body.  And think of it as one movement.

...So hard to describe in words..  I don't post much here anymore because it's just really difficult to describe to someone.. any movement, really, is difficult to describe.  Best thing you can do is find some locals, man.

I don't know ANYONE that does parkour like I do, my town is small and there's NO people that do parkour here.  =/