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Parkour =/= Martial Art??
« on: March 13, 2010, 08:27:57 PM »
Well i just got home from borders. There i was doing my usual reading. Martial arts,Military history and psychology. When i saw a book i hadnt seen before. "The Way of the Warrior" with a long subtitle. Anyway i got interested in it and started scimming through it. When i got to the European section of the book, the first thing that came up was Parkour! lol. It had a good discription on what it was, except for the picture of a guy doing a layout -___- I didnt check the year on the book, but im sure it was fairly new!


I can has more parkour books please?
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Re: Parkour =/= Martial Art??
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2010, 11:45:02 PM »
There was a book that apk featured a little while back, The Parkour and Freerunning Handbook by Dan Edwardes.  It's sitting on my bookshelf at college, so I'm not entirely sure of how long the section is, but there is a history section in the beginning.

To the title of the post, normally it is not considered a martial art, since martial means "of, relating to, or suggestive of war."  Parkour doesn't lend itself well as a combat art; it's more on the 'flight' side of 'fight or flight'.  You probably already know that of course  ;D

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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2010, 05:31:27 AM »
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The Parkour and Freerunning Handbook by Dan Edwardes
i got this back in july when i started, and its just really for teaching the begginers about parkour and baisic movements like the roll and a few vaults, and the cat.. all that jazz, so if you've been training a few years its a little redundant...but its still a good book  ;D
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Re: Parkour =/= Martial Art??
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2010, 05:54:18 AM »
I believe Gabe or someone else referred to parkour as a 'Motion Art.

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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2010, 06:19:06 AM »
Parkour is not a martial art, but the philosophies are so similar I'm not surprised they included it in a martial arts book.

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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2010, 06:39:07 AM »
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Re: Parkour =/= Martial Art??
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2010, 12:48:30 PM »
One of my favorite concepts right now are http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzy_set Fuzzy sets we tend to think in binary ways, either it is or is not, ambiguity is not easy for our brains but its often a better description of reality.

From this perspective parkour can be seen as both a martial art, and not a martial art. Virtually all self defense instructors emphasise the value of running away parkour is an incredible system of training for that, Most militaries use obstacle course training to help soldiers be able to reach and escape during combat and missions, and many traditional martial arts incorporated elements we would recognize as parkour running, jumping, vaulting, climbing etc.

One could conceptualize all of those as being parkour training and therefore a part of martial arts, its certainly has martial applications, but its applications are not soley martial, and so one could see it as overlapping the set of martial arts but not being completely enveloped by it both martial art and not martial art.
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Re: Parkour =/= Martial Art??
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2010, 05:07:05 PM »
My way of describing it to school officials when they ask "What they hell are you doing having grown men walk around on all fours?" is it's a movement art..... and they're getting used to using their arms and legs together.  :) :P
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Re: Parkour =/= Martial Art??
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2010, 05:30:31 PM »
If used with something say...Wushu, or Kung fu, where it utilizes fluid movements, Parkour could be considered a martial art. Other than that it would be a movement art as described above

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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2010, 05:32:31 PM »
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Re: Parkour =/= Martial Art??
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2010, 08:41:50 PM »
I believe Gabe or someone else referred to parkour as a 'Motion Art.

This. Parkour is a motion art, freerunning is a motion art, tricking is a motion art, and so on. It would make a nice standard if everyone started using this term.
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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2010, 09:09:42 PM »
I believe Gabe or someone else referred to parkour as a 'Motion Art.
This. Parkour is a motion art, freerunning is a motion art, tricking is a motion art, and so on. It would make a nice standard if everyone started using this term.

Hahaha, wow, 8 months after I wrote and posted that huge essay coining the term (at least sort of, it's really just a reworked French translation of Art du Deplacement) people are picking up on it. :D

But yeah, I feel like Motion Arts would be a great umbrella term for this sort of thing. It sounds a little wussy but it works. (I've started using phrases like Obstacle Arts and Kinetic Arts. Cause I'm cool like that :P)

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Re: Parkour =/= Martial Art??
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2010, 12:55:34 AM »
honestly, i view parkour as the flight in the fight or flight equation, if your in a fight and you've bitten off more than you can chew then the obvious thing to do would be get the hell out of there, right??? so i say yes it is the martial art of escaping the fight (Leave it up to the french to invent that martial art) :D, ohhhh that joke never gets old.
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Re: Parkour =/= Martial Art??
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2010, 01:12:52 AM »
honestly, i view parkour as the flight in the fight or flight equation, if your in a fight and you've bitten off more than you can chew then the obvious thing to do would be get the hell out of there, right??? so i say yes it is the martial art of escaping the fight (Leave it up to the french to invent that martial art) :D, ohhhh that joke never gets old.
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Re: Parkour =/= Martial Art??
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2010, 01:41:12 PM »
To Gabe: I say we start an initiative to standardize the term, starting now.
To everyone else: Read the above and start using the term Motion Arts. Or I'll git you.
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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2010, 07:08:18 PM »
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im glad i made that post ^_^

I like kinectic arts. It has a certain ring to it
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« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2010, 09:13:25 PM »
I like movement art the best,  motion art just sounds like you're refering to a movie or something. like motion picture.
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Re: Parkour =/= Martial Art??
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2010, 09:25:19 AM »
How about the flighting arts??

To the title of the post, normally it is not considered a martial art, since martial means "of, relating to, or suggestive of war."  Parkour doesn't lend itself well as a combat art; it's more on the 'flight' side of 'fight or flight'.  You probably already know that of course  ;D

Have you guys ever seen District B-13, David totally kicks ass with parkour.

honestly, i view parkour as the flight in the fight or flight equation, if your in a fight and you've bitten off more than you can chew then the obvious thing to do would be get the hell out of there, right??? so i say yes it is the martial art of escaping the fight (Leave it up to the french to invent that martial art) :D, ohhhh that joke never gets old.

I completely agree, that is hilarious and will never get old.
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Konging low stuff is stupid. Just jump over it. Or just do a cool flip over it.

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Re: Parkour =/= Martial Art??
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2010, 11:24:16 AM »
MN is military training and includes boxing, kicking, and grappling. "Defense" would be the martial arts part of MN. The running, jumping and climbing parts can be to chase or escape, but aren't actual combat training. So that part [and parkour] aren't really a "martial art"... but the joke is still funny.

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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2010, 11:39:13 AM »
Who votes for:

Motion Art 
Kinetic Art
Obstacle Art
Flighting Art
Movement Art

My top three are Motion Art, Kinetic Art, and Movement Art.