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Offline Jacob Siler

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Elbow planche
« on: March 06, 2010, 05:47:20 PM »
This is a challenge for anyone out there that can do a plange, try doing it on your elbows. I'm saying that it is harder than a regular plange.

I've also been trying to train my body to to a wide arm plange. I'm trying to do a straddle plange on one elbow with my other arm straight out and wide, kind of close to my knee. If i find someone to take a picture, I will...but I live alone.  :(
« Last Edit: March 08, 2010, 07:20:59 AM by fenixjs »
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Re: Elbow plange
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2010, 07:28:22 PM »
Do you mean a planche or an elbow lever?
A planche is a skill that few people ever accomplish and only accomplish through very hard work and time. An elbow lever is an easy skill to learn that takes a relatively low amount of time and strength to accomplish. A one-armed planche is a very impressive skill that very few people have enough commitment and strength to accomplish. A one-armed elbow lever takes more balance than strength and can also be learned fairly quickly. I am working on a one-armed elbow lever myself.

beastskills.com has pictures of one-arm elbow levers as well as full planches.
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Re: Elbow plange
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2010, 09:05:35 PM »
Your post is vague.

If you mean a planche on the elbows that would be an entire order of magnitude harder to do due to the mechanical disadvantage of shorter arms.  Also, don't forget that you have no hands to help with balance.  I dont even think a full or even straddle planche on the elbows is possible.

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Re: Elbow plange
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2010, 08:26:27 AM »
I apologize for the typo on planche. I am doing a straddle planche on my elbows, probably a little high right now, but non the less I'm doing it.
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Re: Elbow plange
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2010, 08:45:11 AM »
Sorry buddy, but pic or it didn't happen.

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Re: Elbow planche
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2010, 07:15:49 AM »
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It's not too impressive because it looks like I'm laying on my arms. The lower I get the more it looks like it. To have your elbows under your center of gravity, your arms are a couple inches away from your chest. Click it to get a bigger image.
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Re: Elbow planche
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2010, 09:45:54 AM »
Thats more like a handstand on your elbows than a planche...

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Re: Elbow planche
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2010, 10:08:00 AM »
My argument on that is that handstands are an upper trap. stabilizing skill. Elbow handstands are usually done in an arch because it allows your center of gravity to be more over your shoulders. I definitely feel this in my mid/low trap, something you shouldn't feel in a handstand.
Call it a elbow stand if you want, but it is much harder than an arched elbowstand.
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Re: Elbow planche
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2010, 01:34:56 PM »
well it's not really a planche. Your whole body has to be parallel with the ground.
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Re: Elbow planche
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2010, 08:14:32 PM »
THIS is a planche.

http://www.lostartofhandbalancing.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Top-Planche-Fingers-Facing-Forward.bmp

If your body is not perfectly parallel to the ground, and your arms are not straight... then it is not a planche.

Elbow levers are easy compared to planches.

What you are doing is neither.
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Re: Elbow planche
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2010, 05:34:24 AM »
I'm a gymnastics coach. I know what a planche is.
I bet it wouldn't make you any happier if I said elbow straddle planche, would it?
I am saying that that is close to a planche that a handstand.
In a biomechanical aspect, this is closer to a planche than a handstand.
So when I get this flat, what would you call it?
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Re: Elbow planche
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2010, 12:14:00 PM »
I'm a gymnastics coach. I know what a planche is.
I bet it wouldn't make you any happier if I said elbow straddle planche, would it?
I am saying that that is close to a planche that a handstand.
In a biomechanical aspect, this is closer to a planche than a handstand.
So when I get this flat, what would you call it?

It's still not nearly as hard as a planche.
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Re: Elbow planche
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2010, 04:54:23 PM »
If you get it to parallel, then yes, I would suppose that you could call it an elbow planche, just as a handstand on your elbows is called an elbow stand.
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Re: Elbow planche
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2010, 12:50:26 PM »
If you're a gymnastics coach why would you feel the need to challenge or brag about a move that doesn't exist??!!?!

That just makes it worse.

At least do a technically correct movement before posting up.

If it's an elbow lever then do that. If it's a planche progression then do that. handstand variation then do that. No one really cares about some bastardized random movement like that.
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Re: Elbow planche
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2010, 08:32:39 PM »
I did it because I wanted to try something new. I wanted to see if it was possible and what it felt like.
It came out of an idea for a planche progression. For a wide arm planche kind of like a Maltese on the ground.
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Re: Elbow planche
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2010, 10:20:26 PM »
I did it because I wanted to try something new. I wanted to see if it was possible and what it felt like.
It came out of an idea for a planche progression. For a wide arm planche kind of like a Maltese on the ground.


This skill exists its called a swallow or just maltese.
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Re: Elbow planche
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2010, 06:11:01 AM »
I did it because I wanted to try something new. I wanted to see if it was possible and what it felt like.
It came out of an idea for a planche progression. For a wide arm planche kind of like a Maltese on the ground.


There is no benefit to bent arm progressions for straight arm skills.
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Re: Elbow planche
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2010, 12:37:23 PM »
I agree on there is no reason to to a bent arm progression for a straight arm skill. I was working on the maltese with one straight arm and my other arm on the elbow. I have also been working on widening the distance between my hands in a planche.
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