Topic: Guadalupe JAM

[Gearsighted]

I agree with you, this thread IS silly. I won't go back and pick apart any posts, but it seems to be more a product of a misunderstanding and general forum bullshit. This is exactly what we're attempting to avoid (though, to a certain extent that is impossible) It wasn't a bad video, let's leave it at that. Keep up the good work and I can't wait to see the progression in the next one!

[trACEur]

Deft, we aren't getting on your guys' case for tricking, we (or, myself anyway) are getting on your case for showing a few blatantly not Parkour movements and then Matthew emphaising things like "We will never pass it off as something other then that because it is parkour."

Deft and Matthew - Do you guys stick to UF and here? Do you ever visit Parkour.Net , Le-Parkour.com, screwgravity.com or 3run.co.uk?

[Tocowujo]

YEAH Matt! what the heck were you thinking?!?!!    ^_^



BTW, are we gonna have a jam there again so i go?

[Matthew Lee Willis]

Heck yea...we are going to be jaming there again soon because we got to get a better video then the one that I created hehe.

[Deft]

I pretty much stick to UF, here and our website at http://parkour.meetup.com/53/boards/

[trACEur]

I see... I suggest, that if you want to really learn about Parkour fully, and other things surrounding it, you venture out a bit. Specifically to the sites I mentioned above. I warn you though, you might be a bit put off by the attitudes or opinons from these sites. Don't be. Stick around, explore, read, participate. You won't learn anything sticking to just UF and here.

[Gearsighted]

I beg to differ. I think you can learn plenty here...remember that most of the main players on this site hold the same opinions as those on Parkour.net, to top it off, I work for Parkour.net too! I think that varying your sources of information is the only intelligent way to go about forming an accurate opinion, so definitely check out the sites above

[trACEur]

yeah Gear you're right... "anything" wasn't a proper word.... everything fits better.

[Asa]

I won't go back and pick apart any posts -Gear

- Well I will. It's a good way to get people to understand specifically what you mean.

I am actively against vids that have no "true pk" moves. -Deft

- There goes casablanca! Seriously though, there are no "true parkour moves." There is no "move" that you can show me that is parkour, without the proper intent. A vault done to impress someone is not parkour.

You say its not parkour.  Now, in this case I would disagree with you.-Matthew

- I don't know how many times I need to post this before everyone reads it, but I'll just keep in on my clipboard until then. This is a quote from David Belle, translated into english by Danno:

"I dont usually do this, but a small backflip... [he does a backflip] It's not really part of Parkour at all, but since I do a little gymnastics I like to do them because it makes me happy."

This is like telling a noob that when they practice parkour they are not really doing parkour. -Matthew

- No it isn't. This is like telling someone about something that everyone here is passionate about, and backing it up with proof, for your benefit. Someone who has been doing parkour for 7 months should know these things, especially when the amount of accurate information is increasing everyday.

Therefore am I just practising random movements? -Deft

-In the case of wallspins, palmspins and that sort of thing, yes. They are arbitrary (if fun) movements. Once again, without being in the proper mindset, no movement is parkour. Picture two cardboard boxes, one contains thumb tacks and the other is filled with sawdust. The container is the same, but the content is different. In this same way, any two seemingly identical movements can be completeley different, one parkour, and the other not, based on the intent, and not the motion.


-As for the post you made regarding that jam in NYC, I need some time before replying.

Thanks for reading,

Asa

Edit: Tweaked the analogy 

[fish]

I liked it guys, reminds me of back in the day when I frist started PK and of the first jams I went to. There were no rules in place, everyone just going out and trying things. Shoot, I remember the 1st jam I ever went to, the palm spin was the biggest (and by biggest i mean newest/different) movement any of us had seen. And the dash vault, shoot that happened almost a month later at PK San Diego. Remember those days trACEur?

 You guys show a lot of potential, keep up what you guys are doing. I've got no qualms with anything you guys did it should be all about fun, mix things up.

"I remember someone once said this is the remix it is something new and unlike anything else."
"The world is your canvas and you are the paint brush, create."
"Made beautiful with Parkour"

Some quotes to think about. And just one HUGE tip for you guys. Be mindful of your body. A lot of the time when do vaults of pop over walls, it looks sloppy. Be aware of your bodies. It will make it look that much better and help you overall indefinately. I'll make a post about what I am talking about. It is pulled off the OLD UF site don't know if you ever saw it. It was a good article, check it out. I'll post it in the Tech section of this site.

Oh and where in Texas are you? I want to come out and jam with you guys sometime. I go all over the US and train with various persons, taking in as much as I can get, hopefully I can pic something up from you. Hit me back Matt.

Peace.
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[trACEur]

Of course I remember 

"The world is your canvas and you are the paint brush, create." - Hamilton "Ham" Ching
"Made beautiful with Parkour" - Jeremy "Germ" Alva

[Deft]

true there are "no true pk moves" but there are definantly a underlying foundation. True parkour can be anything but I don't think anyone is going to allow water polo as part of parkour, so obviously there are boundaries. We commonly accept vaults, jumps, rolls and such performed in "real world enviroments" to be parkour.  I am not trying to dance in a gray area but anyone with a level head and a full understanding of pk knows what I mean. I understand "to define is to confine" but no one has allowed go carts as part of pk so obvsously there is a limit as to what is not pk.