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An overly asked question
« on: February 27, 2010, 05:11:53 PM »
Any tips at how to calm your mind down physcologically before going into a movement? I can get the basic Parkour movements down and all, but it's when I start stretching them is where fear starts kicking in. Any tips?

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Re: An overly asked question
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2010, 05:40:28 PM »
Instead of trying to dismiss the fear, why not look at why you have fear?

The best way of overcoming and minimizing fear is to slowly progress, starting with what you don't fear. Scared of clipping your feet on a vault? Try it somewhere less intimidating: in a gym, on grass, on a smaller obstacle, etc, and work forward from there. Your goal should not be to block out fear, but to embrace it and control it. Knowledge is key to controlling fear. If you know with 100% confidence that you can do something, you have no fear. You gain that confidence by progression and repetition. :)
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Re: An overly asked question
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2010, 08:30:01 AM »
Instead of trying to dismiss the fear, why not look at why you have fear?

The best way of overcoming and minimizing fear is to slowly progress, starting with what you don't fear. Scared of clipping your feet on a vault? Try it somewhere less intimidating: in a gym, on grass, on a smaller obstacle, etc, and work forward from there. Your goal should not be to block out fear, but to embrace it and control it. Knowledge is key to controlling fear. If you know with 100% confidence that you can do something, you have no fear. You gain that confidence by progression and repetition. :)

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Re: An overly asked question
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2010, 09:12:35 AM »
If you're scared of clipping on kongs, you could try to learn them the way I did. What I did was learn to kong my couch. That way, if I clipped my feet and fell, I'd fall in soft cushions. I'm not sure if this is as safe as I thought it was though. Someone will have to tell me.
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Re: An overly asked question
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2010, 09:15:41 AM »
If you're scared of clipping on kongs, you could try to learn them the way I did. What I did was learn to kong my couch. That way, if I clipped my feet and fell, I'd fall in soft cushions. I'm not sure if this is as safe as I thought it was though. Someone will have to tell me.

Depends on the couch. ;)
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Re: An overly asked question
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2010, 10:02:24 AM »
Fear can be useful as Andy said. It's very dangerous to ignore fear but it can also useful to know how to bypass it where necessary. Being an emotional response, fear tends to respond based on long-term patterns of behaviour and occasionally it's misplaced.

Just simply for calming your mind down it might be best to find some kind of general relaxation technique that works for you. If you let your body relax then you mind will find it easier to relax too, which will leave it more effective.
One technique that works for me is to forget about the movement and turn all my attention to my internal sensations, such as breathing or heart rate. Becoming consciously aware of them can help you regain control of them if they've become highly active as a result of the stressful situation, and also acts to clear your mind of all the confused thoughts and feelings about the problem movement.
If needed, I shift my focus onto each individual muscle in turn and make sure it's relaxed before moving onto the next. Once I'm sure I'm relaxed then I can turn my attention back to the obstacle and look at it afresh.

That sort of thing you can do fairly quickly once you get used to it, maybe only taking a second or two to reset your mind. If there's still a problem, then you need to start finding ways to make it easier. You can become more familiar with the technique by practising on other obstacles, try other movements on this obstacle to get more familiar with the obstacle itself, or just keep training to learn about and improve your ability.

Practising in a soft environment is a good technique to use sometimes, but remember as well that you also need to practise dealing with situations where failure has negative consequences, where that fear will still exist.
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Re: An overly asked question
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2010, 11:38:44 AM »
Depends on the couch. ;)
My seemed good. However, I learned that just because you can vault the back, doesn't mean you should precision on to it. That was one of my less intelligent ideas. The top back support snapped right in half. Thank god that couch was going away soon anyways.
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Re: An overly asked question
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2010, 10:08:48 PM »
And whatever happens, do not attempt to front-flip from one couch to the other, no matter how tempting the proposition seems. Your folks won't like what happens to the couch after that. ;D

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Re: An overly asked question
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2010, 09:20:56 AM »
Sometimes doubt creeps into my mind on simple moves I know I can stick. The precision looks a little far, or that drop on the other side would REALLY hurt. I've been trying to make myself comfortable with the sensation of flying through the air, as that's when I'm the most nervous- its the point where I no longer have any control over anything until i hit something- whether it be the wall, ledge, or ground.

As Andy and Dave said, its crucial to train up to a certain level before attempting the move whatever it may be. Everyone falls-it can't be avoided. Make sure you have the physical strength to catch yourself and break that fall. Crazy story-- While in New Orleans for Mardi Gras, I fell off a 2nd floor balcony of a strip club on Bourbon. I hit the ground like a drunk brick. however, I am apparently in good enough shape to have avoided serious injury as I simply got back up and climbed the column back up to the balcony, thus avoiding having to pay cover charge again. 
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Re: An overly asked question
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2010, 03:02:32 PM »
Being a n00bie to parkour, fear is a relatively large issue for me. It's kind of an experience thing, I think. After I do a large or difficult vault, I don't have any trouble with that size of barrier again. I like practicing jumps on patio tables for a distance that I know I shouldn't have any trouble with, but my mind just freaks out at it. I jump to the middle, and then to the edge, and then I just pull my feet up all the way on the last try, and there's another distance accomplished. Practising long percisions on the ground until I master them is another thing I do.

One other big thing: don't do anything parkour when you're tired. Your motor skills take a sudden drop, and you'll find yourself clipping your feet on really easy vaults. Bad scenario if your trying anything thing that requires concentrating and fast responses (parkour in general ::)). IMHO. F.Y.M. is my mantra ;D
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