Topic: Biceps

[Chris Salvato]

Chris' advice is a bit more than  an opinion. He has a high honors degree in physiology and he has a lot more credentials than most of us.

High honors in engineering - focus on physiology.  But degrees are meaningless for the most part anyway, imho.

To me, "Out of Shape" means he is lacking the power or speed or strength he should have in them. 

The whole problem with your posts boils down to this one sentence.  No one cares what the words me to you.  Its about what the words mean to the OP bc he is the one asking for advice.  Out of shape could mean smaller, less powerful, less forceful, less flexible, etc.  You picked one of the many many things it could mean and gave advice without understanding the problem.  Hence, your advice is ridiculous and irresponsible.

[Fubar1337]

Yeah, degrees are just pieces of paper, knowing the degree is the point of getting it.  (Dont even know why im shooting for one either, HAHA).  I am not trying to prolong an argument nor spark up another one... I just talked to my personal trainer who has been doing this his entire life.  Told him exactly what was asked, and he said my advice may have been a little too in depth and maybe should have portrayed it a little different to get what i was really trying to say out, but it was still almost exactly what he would have advised in a different wording.  He simply stated... "If he has an out of shape muscle, it needs to be worked out.  Most people with muscle conditions still work out to combat their problems.  Starting him on a basic workout was a good idea, it can never hurt."

BTW, dont just discredit me because im a new face on the forum... Im not just another 21yr old bastard child.  I have been accepted and am currently set to go to Embry Riddle for a Master in Aerospace Engineering and have been building mechanical robots for FIRST since i was 16, when i interned on AutoCAD at Pyramid Engineering.  *Just trying to gain some credit, im not just another big mouthed kid*

[Chris Salvato]

Your personal trainer is also out of line.  The words "out of shape" can mean anything.  I can say my car is out of shape and that means it needs an oil change or it needs a new engine.  The fact that you asked a personal trainer is meaningless here.  We need the OP to explain what he is trying to accomplish first or any advice here is premature and will likely result in him wasting his time.

[NOS - from Parkour Mumbai]

Isolated biceps when they don't need isolation can cause muscle imbalances that can result in some pretty horrible injuries...like dislocated shoulders and labrum damage!

Aw come on Chris, that is a bit far-fetched and paranoid, don't you think? I don't think he is going to over-train his biceps to that degree to see the sort of results you mention, even if he does try out a few isolation exercises.
Most people who come here looking for advice on biceps are just looking to increase aesthetic appeal.

But degrees are meaningless for the most part anyway, imho.

You're my man!! +1

[Chris Salvato]

Aw come on Chris, that is a bit far-fetched and paranoid, don't you think?

No, I don't think that the propagation of misinformation is far-fetched/paranoid.  That is an extreme but very real situation that can arise.  While the chance is slim to none - we don't even know the problem.  If I told you "my computer is broken" how would you fix it?  Right, you can't you need more information.  What does broken mean?  Does it mean the computer isn't powering on?  Or does it mean that its running very slowly?  You can't just say "Defrag" and expect that to fix the problem - though it might.  We need to know the problem!!!

[FastGuppy]

The OP might have an injury right now. Think you want to give him some exercises? Some people out there will do anything you tell them to do. Don't underestimate that.

[Fubar1337]

Either way, its becoming a matter of opinion battle, that in itself is rediculous.  I havent seen a post from the OP in a while, so im wondering if he is still worried about the problem or saw the suggestions to do pull ups and just started doing them.  More info from him would help.

[FastGuppy]

Fubar, no. It is not a matter of opinions; it is a matter of facts. Chris has been helping athletes here for a very long time. He might be humble about it, but he has much more credibility and much more understanding than we do; that's why he is the moderator.

[Jacob Siler]

As another person with a degree, that work out isn't a light work out. That's a hard core body building work out that is bicept specific. Like that guy is doing one muscle group a day. It will build a non functional muscle, like the body builders that can't do a pull up because they only work their bi so their shoulders can't support the tension in a pull-up.

Chris is right on point. If the guy want's to work hip bicept he should do chin-ups. can't perform a chin up. Rope climb is an option, the other option is a jumping chin up with a eccentric lower---using a muscle in an extending action---, lowering down in say 5 seconds or 10 seconds ect. great way to work a muscle when you aren't strong enough to work it concentrically---using a muscle in a shortening action---

[Chris Salvato]

Chris is right on point. If the guy want's to work hip bicept he should do chin-ups. can't perform a chin up. Rope climb is an option, the other option is a jumping chin up with a eccentric lower---using a muscle in an extending action---, lowering down in say 5 seconds or 10 seconds ect. great way to work a muscle when you aren't strong enough to work it concentrically---using a muscle in a shortening action---

I never said that.

If the OP doesn't post next, then I am locking this thread.  Giving out advice without all of the information necessary is mental masturbation.

[David Wuffey Haimes]

I know I'm not the OP, but I just wanted to post a quick thank you.
I wish there was still karma so I could give you several +1's Chris.
Thank you for keeping logic in a forum where most of us (including me) will go try whatever workout someone posts without actually understanding what it does to your body.
-David

[Jacob Siler]

sorry Chris,
I should have separated that. I was trying to back up your post with some more options. I meant you where right on point with your post.

Some other options are.....

[Romans82]

Chin ups, preacher curls, hammer curls are the best in my opinion.

[Chris Salvato]

Chin ups, preacher curls, hammer curls are the best in my opinion.

God damn it.  Thread locked.