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Two Stories. 20 Feet. One Jump.
« on: December 03, 2009, 02:02:45 PM »
http://englishrussia.com/?p=6458
http://www.getoutdoors.com/goblog/index.php?/archives/3637-The-Russian-Version-of-Parkour.html

Okay, maybe it was just part of a stunt. Hopefully they're not saying that it was Parkour in any way. Hopefully it was "just a jump." But still...  :-\
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Re: Two Stories. 20 Feet. One Jump.
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2009, 02:14:40 PM »
That looks like damien walter.

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Re: Two Stories. 20 Feet. One Jump.
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2009, 02:22:30 PM »
No way is that Damien. His technique is all different, besides, he's not Russian.

Crazy. Thank God they had pads.

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Re: Two Stories. 20 Feet. One Jump.
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2009, 04:57:50 PM »
Damn crazy Russians )

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Re: Two Stories. 20 Feet. One Jump.
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2009, 08:31:29 PM »
Damn. That is insane. Just the thought of a jump like that is testosterone suppresing.
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Re: Two Stories. 20 Feet. One Jump.
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2009, 08:44:17 AM »
wow crazy russians...thats unreal

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Re: Two Stories. 20 Feet. One Jump.
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2009, 08:56:10 AM »
Wait, what?! they didn't credit me? wtf? that is not cool... :-Sarcasm

That is utterly and completely ridiculously crazy(and amazing). 35 feet...
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Re: Two Stories. 20 Feet. One Jump.
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2009, 12:13:10 PM »
ya i saw the last one... stupid.  they obviously both got injured. the second guy nailed his face on the ground and the first guy, after doing his little flip at the end, has a very painful look on his face after landing.
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Re: Two Stories. 20 Feet. One Jump.
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2009, 11:43:23 PM »
That is wreckless right there.

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Re: Two Stories. 20 Feet. One Jump.
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2009, 04:57:29 PM »
No way is that Damien. His technique is all different, besides, he's not Russian.

Crazy. Thank God they had pads.

i dont see how this looks like Damien?
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Re: Two Stories. 20 Feet. One Jump.
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2009, 05:05:31 PM »
that was RIDICULOUS....ly stupid


have to say for their roll form:
first guy was crappy
second was non existent.... it almost looks as if he hits his head on the ground....


i want to know how much training these guys had.....

and yeah, after blondey does his side flip thing, he looks like hes in a LOT of pain, it almost looks as if his legs are about to give out....


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Re: Two Stories. 20 Feet. One Jump.
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2009, 01:27:29 PM »
I was motivated to do the Math.  So here it is, I think...  if it was a 7m gap and a, 11m drop, that gives us a hypotenuse of 13.something, which I rounded up to 13.1m to roughly account for their curved travel path.  That is 42.9790 feet of travel.  h(t) = 42.9790 - 16t2 for finding the amount of time t, traveled in the air.  If h(t) is the height of impact, 0, then that gives us a travel time of 1.63896 seconds.  Solving for velocity = gravity x time, he was ~roughly~ traveling at about 17.88 mph when he hit the pads.  If someone wants to do the weight that was put on his knees at the point of impact, I would like that.
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Re: Two Stories. 20 Feet. One Jump.
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2009, 01:41:42 PM »
lol

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Re: Two Stories. 20 Feet. One Jump.
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2009, 04:34:42 PM »
I can't understand the reasoning for anyone to do something like this... in the video's description, it said "to attract the public's attention to the parkour and attract the public's attention to the problem of specialized parkour gym shortage," but something like that doesn't seem like enough reason to go out and risk one's life and limb.

Hopefully these guys have had their fill of thrill-seeking.

@Shawn: It's probably pretty difficult to do any kind of rolling when you're falling from that height.
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Re: Two Stories. 20 Feet. One Jump.
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2009, 04:39:54 PM »
Lol, Shawn, I'd like to see anybody pull that off with a good roll from that height.


Anyway, this pretty disappointing, since it obviously will be seen as PK/FR by at least a few.
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Re: Two Stories. 20 Feet. One Jump.
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2009, 07:32:06 PM »
oh i know rolls are prolly going to fail from there, but its a habit for me now. any time i see someone roll i critique it (even if its not for parkour). and every time i see someone running i look to see what kind of shoes theyre wearing and if they let their heels hit the ground or not. i dont really know why though, lmao.
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Re: Two Stories. 20 Feet. One Jump.
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2009, 12:23:34 PM »
I was motivated to do the Math.  So here it is, I think...  if it was a 7m gap and a, 11m drop, that gives us a hypotenuse of 13.something, which I rounded up to 13.1m to roughly account for their curved travel path.  That is 42.9790 feet of travel.  h(t) = 42.9790 - 16t2 for finding the amount of time t, traveled in the air.  If h(t) is the height of impact, 0, then that gives us a travel time of 1.63896 seconds.  Solving for velocity = gravity x time, he was ~roughly~ traveling at about 17.88 mph when he hit the pads.  If someone wants to do the weight that was put on his knees at the point of impact, I would like that.
Horizontal and vertical forces are independent of each other.  I'm going to assume his mass is about 170, so about 76.5kg. Also keep in mind this is in a frictionless environment.
Pe = mgh = 6747.3Joules of Energy
Ke = 1/2mv2  solving for velocity =  13.28 m/s ~ 40.48f/s ~ 29.17mph at the time of impact.
p = mv = 1015.92 kg*m/s
J = Fnett solving for time = 1.35seconds in the air

Now here is where the numbers get a little iffy. There is no way to accurately measure the time from impact to stop without being there with very expensive equipment, so I'm going to guess it took about .2seconds to stop, which I feel is VERY gracious, as it was probably much quicker.
a= ( vf - vi ) / time = decelerating at a rate of 66.4 m/s2
Fnet=ma = 5079.6 N which is equivalent to squatting about 518.32kg or 1142.69lbs.

This is interesting but doesn't relate to the problem directly:
P = W/t = 33736.5 Watts of power, or 45.24 horsepower, enough to run a standard boat.
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Re: Two Stories. 20 Feet. One Jump.
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2009, 12:46:48 PM »
It seems like you know what you're doing a bit more than I do.  ~50 mph?  Are you sure?
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Re: Two Stories. 20 Feet. One Jump.
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2009, 01:03:09 PM »
It seems like you know what you're doing a bit more than I do.  ~50 mph?  Are you sure?

Yea, that seems a bit high...

~18 appears closer.
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Re: Two Stories. 20 Feet. One Jump.
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2009, 01:05:31 PM »
I meant f/s not mph, sorry. I'll edit the changes. But even after the changes, it is still more than 18, it comes out to be about 29mph. I'm also now realizing that 11m is a little high for a 2 story estimate, so I've gone back and changed it using 9m as the height.

I'm not sure where you  for that h(t) = v - 16t2 equation, it seems like its a knock off of d = 1/2at2 + vit

17.88mph = 24.36 feet/second = 7.99 meters/second, which is less than gravity so it is not possible from this height unless the time falling was less than 1 second, or there was a ridiculously high air resistance.
v2 = vi2 + 2ad
7.992 = 0 + 2(9.8)(d)
d = 3.26m

All numbers have been changed using 9m instead of 11 for height, a more realistic number.
« Last Edit: December 10, 2009, 01:04:48 PM by Bryan Augstein »
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