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Re: Parkour Being Blamed for Teens Death...
« Reply #80 on: November 12, 2009, 01:02:12 PM »
I send my respects to Kenny's family, may they have God's blessings in their time of sorrow. Kenny, may your spirit be free to roam where it wishes.
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Re: Parkour Being Blamed for Teens Death...
« Reply #81 on: November 12, 2009, 06:59:36 PM »
Wow, I watched 35 seconds of that video and had to shut it off. That video just downright pissed me off. R.I.P man, from a fellow traceur, but also as a regular kid, you'll be missed. Amen

That video just made me so pissed off. The way that they said what they said, was just downright insulting.

First off, they're saying it's just some internet sensation, they say that its "Parkour's" fault for his death, like it's a person. Regardless of whether or not he was doing Parkour, it was an accident, accidents happen in every sport, even outside of sports. Parkour is a not just some thing people do to look cool, just because they see it on the internet. Parkour, for most if not all of us, is a way of life. The talent, the strength, the drive it takes to do Parkour is completely overlooked in this video.

The next part that made me really angry is the lady in the car, and the reporter afterwards. She basically is just saying that parkour is just something stupid kids do, that its just for kids who are trying to be daredevils, that its basically irresponsable. Ignorance is the blossom of stupidity, people. UNTIL YOU KNOW MORE ABOUT IT, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO RAP ON WHAT WE DO.

It's comments like this that destroy our reputation, and make us look like fools, and like it's just something to do to be a "daredevil". I don't know how Parkour is seen in Europe, but from an American's perspective, it seems it's more accepted and respected. However, it seems in America, if it's not Football or Baseball, its always to blame. People don't understand us. People associate us with skaters, and that we're just punks (not that all skater's are punks, i know because i also skate :] ), but 98% of us are respectable people, who obey the rules, and if we're told to leave, we do. I'm just sick of people jumping to conclusions, and blaming Parkour or making fun of Parkour. It really does make me angry.
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Re: Parkour Being Blamed for Teens Death...
« Reply #82 on: November 12, 2009, 07:07:55 PM »
I also forgot to add, the fact that they call Parkour a sport maybe once. instead, they call it a "behavior". a risky behavior im pretty sure it was. unbelieveable. RIP man, all the way from the east coast man, RIP. My thoughts and prayers go out to his family and and friends.
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« Reply #83 on: November 13, 2009, 08:34:40 PM »
We should probably lock this thread since it isn't going anywhere... and open it once they FIND out why he died.
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Re: Parkour Being Blamed for Teens Death...
« Reply #84 on: November 14, 2009, 10:16:47 AM »
Parkour can not be blamed for someones death.

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Re: Parkour Being Blamed for Teens Death...
« Reply #85 on: November 30, 2009, 12:50:41 AM »
Hello, I was a close friend of Kenny's. I haven't been doing much in the last month involving this because of the shock and sadness, but I'm here now to say some things. (Please note, it's won't be very organized. I can only pour out a few feelings and thoughts on the matter...)

First of all, I trained with Kenny. I was with him rather often and I got him into parkour in the first place. (That fact depresses me to an extent.) I was a close, close friend of his and I knew him really well. And because this is a parkour site, I feel obligated to address that aspect first. He was not a stupid, misinformed youth. He was an extremely bright kid and he would not have done something like go on the roof to train parkour. He knew things like that were useless and not helpful in training. Very simple, I'm saying that it was not parkour that did it. No, I can't say that definitively, but no one can say anything definitively. No one was with him when it happened. Just from knowing him, I will tell you that fact. Whether or not you can believe it is up to you.

Secondly, that video. That video angered a lot of Kenny's friends, including myself. Sure, they made parkour seem stupid and irresponsible (and I agree that it was annoying, especially that lady in the car...) but we were infuriated because we knew it was wrong and it felt like they were downplaying his death so that they could have a story about parkour. And many of us also knew in our heads that it seemed wrong. Our friend wouldn't do something like that, we knew him much too well for that.

Anyway, I'll end it there, because that's where the relationship to parkour ends. His cause of his death will never been known, most likely. So it's best that we just let the cause be "unknown." There doesn't need to be speculation or anything like that. And the only lesson to learn from this is that all lives are precious. No one has the right to say things about people needing to be more careful or whatever, because really... They don't know what caused his death. I really believe that (almost) everyone in that video shouldn't have given the reporters anything at all. It would've been better that way. Anyway, I don't know what else to say. So I'll end it here.

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Re: Parkour Being Blamed for Teens Death...
« Reply #86 on: November 30, 2009, 06:39:13 AM »
*applauds* If there was still Karma here I would've tried to given you a lot. But there is no more Karma. I would do that because I believe that you knew him and yeah. Thanks for coming on the forums and clearing it up for us.


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Re: Parkour Being Blamed for Teens Death...
« Reply #87 on: November 30, 2009, 11:10:29 AM »
Wow, I watched 35 seconds of that video and had to shut it off. That video just downright pissed me off. R.I.P man, from a fellow traceur, but also as a regular kid, you'll be missed. Amen

That video just made me so pissed off. The way that they said what they said, was just downright insulting.

First off, they're saying it's just some internet sensation, they say that its "Parkour's" fault for his death, like it's a person. Regardless of whether or not he was doing Parkour, it was an accident, accidents happen in every sport, even outside of sports. Parkour is a not just some thing people do to look cool, just because they see it on the internet. Parkour, for most if not all of us, is a way of life. The talent, the strength, the drive it takes to do Parkour is completely overlooked in this video.

The next part that made me really angry is the lady in the car, and the reporter afterwards. She basically is just saying that parkour is just something stupid kids do, that its just for kids who are trying to be daredevils, that its basically irresponsable. Ignorance is the blossom of stupidity, people. UNTIL YOU KNOW MORE ABOUT IT, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO RAP ON WHAT WE DO.

It's comments like this that destroy our reputation, and make us look like fools, and like it's just something to do to be a "daredevil". I don't know how Parkour is seen in Europe, but from an American's perspective, it seems it's more accepted and respected. However, it seems in America, if it's not Football or Baseball, its always to blame. People don't understand us. People associate us with skaters, and that we're just punks (not that all skater's are punks, i know because i also skate :] ), but 98% of us are respectable people, who obey the rules, and if we're told to leave, we do. I'm just sick of people jumping to conclusions, and blaming Parkour or making fun of Parkour. It really does make me angry.

I agree.. Rock climbing accidents happen all the time, and reporters never say "Rock Climbing was to blame". It was an unfortunate accident  stupid girl in the car...
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Re: Parkour Being Blamed for Teens Death...
« Reply #88 on: November 30, 2009, 11:10:55 AM »
Hey Tuong

Sorry about your friend man.  I'm available if you ever need to vent or need help, just PM me.  Thanks for posting, hopefully people will take heed.  :(
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Re: Parkour Being Blamed for Teens Death...
« Reply #89 on: November 30, 2009, 11:17:31 AM »
Wow, I watched 35 seconds of that video and had to shut it off. That video just downright pissed me off. R.I.P man, from a fellow traceur, but also as a regular kid, you'll be missed. Amen

That video just made me so pissed off. The way that they said what they said, was just downright insulting.

First off, they're saying it's just some internet sensation, they say that its "Parkour's" fault for his death, like it's a person. Regardless of whether or not he was doing Parkour, it was an accident, accidents happen in every sport, even outside of sports. Parkour is a not just some thing people do to look cool, just because they see it on the internet. Parkour, for most if not all of us, is a way of life. The talent, the strength, the drive it takes to do Parkour is completely overlooked in this video.

The next part that made me really angry is the lady in the car, and the reporter afterwards. She basically is just saying that parkour is just something stupid kids do, that its just for kids who are trying to be daredevils, that its basically irresponsable. Ignorance is the blossom of stupidity, people. UNTIL YOU KNOW MORE ABOUT IT, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO RAP ON WHAT WE DO.

It's comments like this that destroy our reputation, and make us look like fools, and like it's just something to do to be a "daredevil". I don't know how Parkour is seen in Europe, but from an American's perspective, it seems it's more accepted and respected. However, it seems in America, if it's not Football or Baseball, its always to blame. People don't understand us. People associate us with skaters, and that we're just punks (not that all skater's are punks, i know because i also skate :] ), but 98% of us are respectable people, who obey the rules, and if we're told to leave, we do. I'm just sick of people jumping to conclusions, and blaming Parkour or making fun of Parkour. It really does make me angry.

i agree completely

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Re: Parkour Being Blamed for Teens Death...
« Reply #90 on: November 30, 2009, 10:03:40 PM »
Thanks Tuong.  Like Corndogg said, you ever need someone to talk to hit me up.  He and I are both in Northern California, so let us know if we can help out.

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Re: Parkour Being Blamed for Teens Death...
« Reply #91 on: June 02, 2010, 05:53:11 PM »
I have never known Ken. I live thousands of miles away in Chicago. But All of his friends and family have my sympathy. I have lost a close friend in a motorcycle accident 5 years ago and I know what it feels like to lose a friend.

But Ken's death is no reason to blame parkour. Look at it this way:
Ken died doing what he loved. That is the only way I want to die. And if I die doing what I love then I die a happy death.

So lets not let Ken's passing stop us from this discipline. Instead, when ever we do parkour we should think of Ken and continue his legacy and practice parkour.

Again, you have my deepest sympathies and remember Ken as he was when he was having fun, joking and doing parkour.

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Re: Parkour Being Blamed for Teens Death...
« Reply #92 on: June 02, 2010, 06:46:17 PM »
may his soul R.I.P

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Re: Parkour Being Blamed for Teens Death...
« Reply #93 on: June 02, 2010, 07:16:07 PM »
not to sound rude at all
but this thread was started around 8 months ago

im not saying we should forget about it...but you know
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« Reply #94 on: June 03, 2010, 07:56:59 AM »
 :( RIP. Please remember to train safe. I hate situations like this. God bless
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« Reply #95 on: July 21, 2010, 11:59:57 AM »
How sad, my condolences to the family  :-\

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« Reply #96 on: July 21, 2010, 02:01:42 PM »
I feel bad for the family, and the kid, but that lady in the car, she talks about parkour like we're shooting bottle rockets at each other. I started parkour a couple days ago and KNOW i can get hurt or possibly die, but i still do it, you could die running around a track, im pretty sure more people have died running track than from parkour. She sounds so arrogant.
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Re: Parkour Being Blamed for Teens Death...
« Reply #97 on: July 24, 2010, 11:06:42 AM »
I hate how the lady in the beginning of the video says that we think we cant get hurt from doing parkour.  come on, we all know we have limits and that you can get hurt very easily in this sport.  RIP friend  :(
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« Reply #98 on: July 26, 2010, 03:44:35 PM »
*sigh*
poor kid.  :'(

but in all reality, arent all activities such as surfing, skydiving, e.t.c also dangerous without proper training?

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Re: Parkour Being Blamed for Teens Death...
« Reply #99 on: July 26, 2010, 06:46:09 PM »
      I'm glad that this thread came back for a while. We should never forget that life can always be cut short. Whether by parkour or by any other tragic accident.
      We should always remember fellow practitioners who have died. I would never have known about this young man had no one brought the thread back. I think that everyone should look at this and remember that life is short. We should live life to the fullest because at any time our life can end.

RIP Kenny I hope that no one will forget you.