Topic: Pistols and/or leg presses

[Chris Salvato]

Both use the posterior chain and quads.  The positioning is relatively similar (usually no more than 45 degrees of hip flexion with no more than 45 degrees of knee flexion).

Really - the two movements are very similar.

[Sat Santokh]

There's a reason that competitive olympic lifters had the fastest acceleration and vertical leap: they're both connected.

[Mathew C]

Both use the posterior chain and quads.  The positioning is relatively similar (usually no more than 45 degrees of hip flexion with no more than 45 degrees of knee flexion).

they both use the posterior chain and quads, true. But leg curls are 90% hammies. Why do them for vertical leap?

[Chris Salvato]

Both use the posterior chain and quads.  The positioning is relatively similar (usually no more than 45 degrees of hip flexion with no more than 45 degrees of knee flexion).

they both use the posterior chain and quads, true. But leg curls are 90% hammies. Why do them for vertical leap?

By both I was referring to jumps and sprints.

Leg curls are glutes and hammies...both of which are responsible for jumping.  The translation isn't that stark but it is certainly better than leg presses.  Also, Natural Leg curls are phenomenal for overall posterior chain development which is necessary for every aspect of parkour -- climbups to jumping to running to flips to kipups to kipping pullups to ...everything, really.

[Mathew C]

Here's the plan

Workout A
Sprints
Split-leg squats


Workout B
Pistol jumps
Natural leg curls

[Steven Low]

Here's the plan

Workout A
Sprints
Split-leg squats


Workout B
Pistol jumps
Natural leg curls

Looks fine... add in some upper body work and you're good to go.

[Mathew C]

Upper body strength isn't one of my goals actually. This is for basketball, and right now I'm trying to improve my ability to shoot with good fundamentals on a daily basis. Once I'm comfortable with that, I'm gonna try and expand the range (distance from the basket) at which I can maintain ideal form and accuracy.

Upper body strength workout would interfere with that, just because they mean rest days and fatigue.

[Chris Salvato]

Your body is a system.  Upper body improvement facilitates lower body improvement.

[FastGuppy]

Power clean, deadlift, pull-ups, Incline press, and overhead press would be good upper body workouts. You can still emphasize squats more in your workout without sacrificing upper body workouts.

Power-clean is highly explosive and would work your back and your trunk really well. Deadlift would work a lot of your back and core. Work this movement last. Incline can be done before the press and after incline you could do OHs. Bench then overhead always works well in a program. Don't do these all in the same day. You can switch off days. One day it's power clean and dead lift and the other it's incline bench and over head press. However, to emphasize the squat do it every workout and do it at the beginning.

It's your choice really. Although the four I mentioned above would be great for basketball.

[Mathew C]

check the original post guys. The point of this thread is to find lower body exercises that don't utilize my injured right tricep, and now you're over here recommending I start benching 

[FastGuppy]

check the original post guys. The point of this thread is to find lower body exercises that don't utilize my injured right tricep, and now you're over here recommending I start benching 

One, Power-Clean and Deadlift does use some of the lower body.

Two, if you considered what Chris said, your body acts as one harmonious unit. You do use some upper body movements in basketball. Over head presses can help with the massive amount of central nervous system activity. 

Three, if you didn't like the lifts feel free to find your own. Find something without triceps. If you tore your tricep why can't you do deadlifts? Deadlifts aren't known to work triceps much. There should be plenty of exercises that don't put too much stress on your triceps.

Edit:I would like to note that most doctors lean on the conservative side of everything. Do you have X-rays? Or a specific diagnosis what happened? Just be aware of that.

[Chris Salvato]

check the original post guys. The point of this thread is to find lower body exercises that don't utilize my injured right tricep, and now you're over here recommending I start benching 

One, Power-Clean and Deadlift does use some of the lower body.

Two, if you considered what Chris said, your body acts as one harmonious unit. You do use some upper body movements in basketball. Over head presses can help with the massive amount of central nervous system activity. 

Three, if you didn't like the lifts feel free to find your own. Find something without triceps. If you tore your tricep why can't you do deadlifts? Deadlifts aren't known to work triceps much. There should be plenty of exercises that don't put too much stress on your triceps.

While i think your main premise is on point, Guppy, I think your implementation of that point is a bit askew.

I would suggest working out the upper body with the unaffected arm.  One armed OH Press, one armed pushups, One armed elbow lever and Kettlebell/Dumbbell swings/cleans/jerks/snatches with your good arm will definitely help your BILATERAL (both arm) strength as well as really blasting your core and can be done in conjunction with legs....without bothering your triceps.

Benching and barbell work is probably not what I would recommend right now...

[Mathew C]

One, Power-Clean and Deadlift does use some of the lower body.

Two, if you considered what Chris said, your body acts as one harmonious unit. You do use some upper body movements in basketball. Over head presses can help with the massive amount of central nervous system activity. 

Three, if you didn't like the lifts feel free to find your own. Find something without triceps. If you tore your tricep why can't you do deadlifts? Deadlifts aren't known to work triceps much. There should be plenty of exercises that don't put too much stress on your triceps.

I'm not here for an argument. Just chill, and maybe re-read this topic. Given what has and has not already been said here, much of your post was nonsensical.

[Mathew C]

And just so you guys know, I'm seeing a physical therapist about my elbow. Until then, I'm perfecting my fundamentals with my left hand (a shot, in its purest form, is one-handed) and increasing my lower body power for jumping... which brings us to this topic.

[FastGuppy]

Sorry if I came off as rude. I wasn't trying to come off as argumentative. I'm always skeptical of the severity of injuries proscribed by doctors. As a former athlete I just don't trust their advice. PTs included. Yet you have to see them. 

[Mathew C]

No harm, no foul. I know where you're coming from - I've had my share of 'conditions,' and as a rule the folks at apk have have much more helpful, kind, and informative than sports doctors. Not to say they're bad, unhelpful, unkind, or ignorant people; the problem is when medicine is a business instead of a practice.

[Steven Low]

Sorry if I came off as rude. I wasn't trying to come off as argumentative. I'm always skeptical of the severity of injuries proscribed by doctors. As a former athlete I just don't trust their advice. PTs included. Yet you have to see them. 

You need to fine the good ones.

There's good and bad people in every profession