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My core
« on: April 14, 2009, 07:06:00 PM »
Okay, I'm trying to really strengthen my core, and to do so I need all these questions answered, please.

However, I can't get my legs in the air for an L-sit, how do I accomplish an L-sit.
I'm not flexible enough for v-sits, I know the problem though just not how to correct it, how do I make my hamstrings more flexible

How do I correct these issues. is there a perquisite to the L-sit? also flexibility is an issue with L-sit to an extent

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Re: My core
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2009, 05:18:47 PM »
A V is going to take a long time after you obtain a L.

Start off doing L-sits with your legs bent.  Then when they get too easy start doing them with your legs straight even though they may not be parallel to the ground.  Eventually you'll get them parallel.  Then you can move on to advanced L-sits and working towards your V-sit. ^^  Good luck.

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Re: My core
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2009, 05:26:51 PM »
You can progress up to an L-sit by keeping your knees bent at first, and gradually straightening them as you get stronger/more flexible. So in essence you start out holding a pose like you are sitting in a chair, and work up to the L. (Heh, Corey is a fast typer. :) I want to add, be sure you are working your L-sit and V-sit progressions while working on the ham flexibility. Don't wait for the flexibility before you start training the L. Training the L will also help develop flexibility!)

For more flexible hamstrings, here is a good progression from limited/beginner flexibility to very flexible:

1. Lie on your back with your legs straight out in front, spine neutral, abs engaged to stabilize the torso. Hug your right knee into the chest, letting the lower back lengthen. Switch legs.

2. As that gets more comfortable, gradually straighten the bent leg. You may have to hold on to the back of your thigh as you do so. As you gain more flexibility and control, you will need to use a yoga strap or a belt to hook around your arch/heel to hold your leg straighter and straighter.

3. When the supine stretches are comfortable, progress to seated stretches. Sit in an L-sit position on the ground with a very tall back. Bend one leg and let it open naturally to the side. Fold forward over the straight leg. Be sure to bend at the hip joint, in the groin, NOT at the waist. Bending at the waist will stretch your lower back but will do very little for your hamstrings.. Switch legs.

4. When the one-legged forward bends are comfortable, start on two-legged forward bends. Keep both legs straight out in front of you and fold at the hip joint/groin as before. Try to flatten the abdomen onto the thighs and reach your spine long towards your feet.

You can intersperse the one-legged and two-legged seated stretches, no need to wait for the one-legged ones to be "perfect" before progressing.

5. When the seated stretches are coming along, add some standing stretches. Begin with your legs about hip width apart and fold forward at the hip joint just like you did for the seated ones. Gravity will help you here; it's okay to keep the legs slightly bent at first. Again, keep the spine long and be sure to not bend at the waist.

You can increase the stretch of #5 as you get more comfortable by gradually straightening the legs and also by bringing your legs closer and closer together. Be sure the legs are absolutely parallel when you do these.

6. Get to a plank position. Imagine there is a rope around your hip bones (about where you would wear a seatbelt--across the pelvis not across your waist). This rope slowly pulls up on your hips, causing you to have to walk your hands back towards your feet, eventually putting your body into an "A" shape. Basically you are walking the hands into Downward Dog Pose in yoga. Here is an image of what it looks like: Downward Dog. Keep walking the hands out to plank and then back to Downward Dog, to get a dynamic stretch. Form is everything on this one.

7. Squat down with your legs together and hook your arms under your thighs, hugging your knees to your chest. Keep your chest glued to your thighs as you stand up, aiming your tailbone at the ceiling. Let the upper body "cascade" down the legs, keeping your chest as close to the thighs as possible, and the spine long.

You can also do walking high kicks for a dynamic stretch of the hamstrings. Requires some coordination and good stability though.

As always, be sure you are quite warm before doing any of these stretches. Best to do them at least after a full warm-up if not a full workout.

Hope that helps!
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Re: My core
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2009, 09:18:25 AM »
Thank you guys, this will help immensely.
+1 to both of you!

I also probably should have read the stretching forum, I just found it again, lol

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Re: My core
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2009, 11:00:55 AM »
You need active flexibility in the hips to be able to achieve a V.  Most people should possess at least ample passive hamstring flexibility already.  Being able to hold a stretch passively does not correlate to being able to move into that ROM actively with your muscles.
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Re: My core
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2009, 12:46:44 PM »
I know most who do Parkour are opposed to anything that is not bodyweight exercise related but the fastest and best way to get a strong core is not endless sit ups or (most) variations there of, but simply to lift relativly heavy weight above or off center of your center of gravity. Your body has to compensate to keep balance and proper back alignment. You just have to remember what the abdominals are for, supporting the upper body and spine and protecting the internal organs. Shoulder press, clean and press, kettle bell swings, teakettles, deadlifts etc. are great.
There are many bodyweight exercises that can do the same such as the L-sit, windshield wipers, flag and all of the different levers. However many of these are very advanced and a good way to obtain the ability to do them is by using weights. Also remember you dont have to buy anyting to use weights, large rocks, buckets, anything that weighs enough and that you can lift is all that is needed. With everything balance whether you powerlift or run marathons crosstraining can help.

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Re: My core
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2009, 12:59:36 PM »
I know most who do Parkour are opposed to anything that is not bodyweight exercise related

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Where on earth did you get that idea?!

Read these forums a bit more -- on this board we ALWAYS suggest heavy lifting (your list plus others) as a staple in a traceurs workouts...
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Re: My core
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2009, 05:45:39 PM »
Do active flexibility work.

1. Stretch your hamstrings for 30s
2. Arms straight, hands by your knees.
3. Pull your knees up to your face.
4. Hold 10s. If you feel lots of cramping you're doing it right.

5. Repeat 1-4 about 5 times.


If you can get your knees to you face for most of the sets, move your hands closer to your toes.
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Re: My core
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2009, 11:02:32 AM »
nope haven't read the forums much at all I just kinda jumped in lol. Good to see though, I was only speaking from personal experience with some friends and the type.

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Re: My core
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2009, 04:38:09 PM »
Do active flexibility work.

1. Stretch your hamstrings for 30s
2. Arms straight, hands by your knees.
3. Pull your knees up to your face.
4. Hold 10s. If you feel lots of cramping you're doing it right.

5. Repeat 1-4 about 5 times.

Oh, thanks Steve. That's going to help immensely with the stuff I'm doing. Flexibility is probably the biggest blind spot in my knowledge of physiology. *Runs off to stretch and then read some articles on flexibility*
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Re: My core
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2009, 06:22:31 PM »