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List: Fitness Goals with High Translation to Parkour
« on: February 15, 2009, 01:10:52 PM »
There is a problem that I have been seeing in my times on this board.  The problem is that people do not know how to set goals.  Steve goes over goal setting pretty well in his article, How to Construct Your Own Workout Routine.  In fact, you can find a direct link to the portion of this article on goal setting here.

With that said, once people read this part of the article I typically see goals that are somewhat...lackluster.  Most people want to stick to bodyweight exercises because it is cheaper and easier than lifting.  This is entirely understandable.  Let us be clear, though, doing 150 pushups in a row does not mean you are strong - it means you have good endurance doing pushups.  It is much easier to be a beast in endurance when you are already very strong. 

Strength will always limit you in all other domains - technique, endurance, skill, balance, flexibility (active and passive), agility, coordination, etc.  You must be strong in order to excel at all of these other domains - this is a well known fact in the enhancement of performance.

We must keep this in mind as we set our goals.  You will typically want to shoot for 15 reps in a row for what are considered "basic movements".  On more "advanced movements" you will want to shoot for 5 reps or so to prove proficiency.  This is because the basic movements program the initial motor pathways...or "grease the groove"...for further strength gains.  Similarly, for something that is a "basic static hold" (or stationary position) you will typically shoot for a 15-20 second solid hold before progressing to the next position.  As you progress to the "advanced static holds" you will typically shoot for 5-10 second holds before progressing.

Below are a list of goals that will help you progress towards building a beastly level of strength for Parkour.  Most of these do not require weights.  Some of them require a barbell, bumper plates and a squat rack.  Next to each technique/movement are variations that can be used to decrease/increase the difficulty level as you work towards the main movement.

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Pushing
Planche: Frog, Tuck, Adv. Tuck, Straddle, Half Lay, Lay
Pushups: One-Armed Pushups, Planche Progression, Pseudo-Planche Pushups, Fingertips
Dips: Weighted, Unweighted, Rings, Parallel Bars, Single Bar with forward facing decent, Single Bar with rear facing decent.

Pulling
Front Lever: Tuck, Adv. Tuck, Straddle, Half Lay, Lay
Pullups/Chinups: Front Lever Progression, L-sit, Strict, Kipping, Weighted, Unweighted, Partial Finger, single/double/triple finger, Archer, Clapping
One Armed Pullup/Chinup: Unweighted, Weighted, Kipping, Strict, One/Two/Three/Four/Full Hand Assisted
Back Lever: Tuck, Adv. Tuck, Straddle, Half Lay, Lay
Iron Cross: Assisted w/Spotter, Assisted with Cross Trainers, Assisted with Legs on Box, Inverted Dumbbell raises

Handstands
Handstands: Rings, Parallel Bars, Perpendicular Bars, Single Bar
Handstand Presses: Planche Progression, Straddle, Pike, Rings, Parallel Bars, Floor, Single Bar, Perpendicular Bars, Chair/Uneven, L-sit to Handstand
One Armed Handstand:  Floor, Single Bar, One/Two/Three/Four/Full Hand Assisted
Handstand Pushups: Fingertips, Mini-Handstand Pushups (Mini-HSPU), Headstand Pushups (HeSPU), freestanding, jumping, clapping, rings, boxes, Parallel Bars

Combined Push/Pull
Muscle Ups: Narrow Grip Kipping, Wide Grip Kipping, Narrow Grip Strict, Wide Grip Strict, Weighted, Rings, Single Bar, Parallel Bars

Core
L-sit: Tucked, Lowered Legs, Regular, Advanced, Rings, PB, Floor, Fingertips
V-sit: Rings, Parallel Bars, Floor, Fingertips
Manna: Tucked, Partial, Middle Split Hold, High Manna
Straddle L-sit: Tucked, Partial, High, Rings, PB, Floor, Fingertips
Side Lever/Flagpoles: Tuck, Adv. Tuck, Straddle, Half Lay, Lay, Negatives, full pulls

Legs
Pistols: Weighted, Unweighted, arms to side, arms in front, standing single leg L position
Natural Leg Curls: Two Legs anchored, One leg Anchored, Negatives
Broad Jumps: One legged, two legged, pistol, single, multiples
Vertical Jumps: One legged, two legged, pistol, single, multiples
Box Jump: Standing, 1 step, 2 step, run up, depth jumps, Pistol
Sprints: 10m, 20m, 40m, 100m, 200m, 400m
Air Squats

Lifting
Strength
Squat: High Bar, Low Bar, OH Squat, Front
Deadlift
Overhead Press
Bench Press

Power
Clean: Full Squat, Power, Hang
Snatch: Full Squat, Power, Hang
Push Jerk: Split Catch, Power Catch
Push Press

Parkour Specific
Climbups: One-Ups, One Armed, Muscle-Up Style

Balance
Rail Squats
Rail Walking
Chain Walking
Slackline Walking


Flexibility
Pike
Open Pike
Closed Pike

Straddle
Open Straddle Split
Closed Straddle Split

Front Splits
Left Front Split
Right Front Split

This should be enough to get the ball rolling for any new traceur looking to get started or even an experienced traceur looking for something new to master.  I suggest picking 2 pulling exercises, 2 pushing exercises and 2 Posterior Chain/Legs exercises to start and work towards those -- along with flexibility and balance, of course!

Good luck.  Feel free to add to this list below.  Any suggestions that I feel fit in will be added promptly.  Let me know if anything needs to be a bit more clear.  I plan on posting pictures up for many of these soon, as well.
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Re: List: Fitness Goals with High Translation to Parkour
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2009, 06:16:12 PM »
A few things...

Are you trying to set a record for number of topics stickied?

How many people can do weighted OAC/OAP? C'mon, you have to be half monkey to do that!

Where are the flagpole and side levers. These often go unmentioned. So far I know of the side lever variations from Beast Skills and two or three variations of the flagpole not including progressions.
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Re: List: Fitness Goals with High Translation to Parkour
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2009, 06:20:42 PM »
Are you trying to set a record for number of topics stickied?

No, i reckon Muse has that title :P

I was actually going to unsticky my "Common Mistakes" article and sticky this one since it is much more beneficial.  We also have way too many stickies here that I am planning on cutting down at some point in the future with help from the admins...

How many people can do weighted OAC/OAP? C'mon, you have to be half monkey to do that!

Not nearly enough people...therefore it is a good goal to set!  Its not even that hard, just takes dedication and time.

Where are the flagpole and side levers. These often go unmentioned. So far I know of the side lever variations from Beast Skills and two or three variations of the flagpole not including progressions.

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Re: List: Fitness Goals with High Translation to Parkour
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2009, 06:25:13 PM »
How many people can do weighted OAC/OAP? C'mon, you have to be half monkey to do that!

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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2009, 07:36:49 PM »
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Re: List: Fitness Goals with High Translation to Parkour
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2009, 07:54:05 PM »
Although planche is much harder, you could try elbow levers. I can't seem to balance myself, and they require a bit of spine flexibility (which I don't have) so maybe something to consider.
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Re: List: Fitness Goals with High Translation to Parkour
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2009, 08:05:28 PM »
I may add Elbow Levers -- the problem is that you can get elblow levers without ever actually training them by focusing on more applicable high intensity skills like weighted dips, Planche Progression Pullups and HS Press progressions.  It may be good to add for completeness, though.
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Re: List: Fitness Goals with High Translation to Parkour
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2009, 09:18:56 AM »
Let us be clear, though, doing 150 pushups in a row does not mean you are strong - it means you have good endurance doing pushups. 

hahaha so true.  Great info!

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Re: List: Fitness Goals with High Translation to Parkour
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2009, 06:26:20 PM »
Chris, thank you so much for posting this. I'm currently working very hard on my handstands and overall core strength...I'll be dissecting the exercises here for quite some time now!!   ;D
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Re: List: Fitness Goals with High Translation to Parkour
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2009, 10:45:09 AM »
Before this gets stickied, maybe Chris or someone else could try to add url tags around exercises to link to something like an illustrated guide of each actual exercise?
I think that would make it more useful to the target beginners or people less familiar with gymnastics, lifting and parkour jargon which are probably the people you want to reach and help more.  If someone is already familiar with all the exercises and terms like QM, pike, front lever, planche, clean, snatch etc there is a higher chance they are already including them in their workout or fitness goals.

So I think it would make for an even better resource for people to add links, I am thinking something like replacing QM with QM for example, or Handstand with Handstand, and even things with nice animations like replacing Squats with Squats.
So anyways, I did a few, maybe if each person did a couple it would be done in no time.
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Re: List: Fitness Goals with High Translation to Parkour
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2009, 12:12:55 PM »
as it says in the last line of my post:

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I plan on posting pictures up for many of these soon, as well.

Sadly, I have a job that is consuming way too much of my time as well as dozens of other things going on in my life right now.  I really would love to make all of those additions and make this as complete as possible including pictures and videos...I just simply don't have the time.

I do like the idea of community contributions to the links -- please email me (csalvato@gmail.com) links to pics and vids of given movements and it will surely ease my pain in adding them.  I will likely change the links as I find ones that are more appropriate.

PS - Believe it or not, I have been working on this list for over a month.  Hard to believe because its pretty straightforward and I can name all of these exercises off the top of my head.  However, I have really just been THAT busy :P  I felt that it was necessary to at least get this on paper to get the ball rolling thus I stepped out of character and posted something that was incomplete.  My apologies since that is not what i normally like to do :)
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Re: List: Fitness Goals with High Translation to Parkour
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2009, 12:49:39 PM »
Chris, maybe you could just have people contribute by typing the links in this thread as I have.
Then all you have to do is click on quote on any post and just cut and paste the text containing links.
For example if you quote my post it will show my text
...replacing QM with QM ...or Handstand with Handstand,
...Squats with Squats
as
(quote author=tombb)
...replacing QM with (url=http://parkourelements.com/body/39/quadrupedal-movement-basic)QM(/url) ...or Handstand with (url=http://parkourelements.com/body/23/handstand)Handstand(/url),
...Squats with (url=http://www.flashmavi.com/weight_training_legs_how_to_do_squats.shtml)Squats(/url)(/quote)

and you can just copy and paste each in your opening post.  You can already do that with Squats handstand and QM from my post for example.

The websites I pointed to already have many of these exercises, with illustrations, videos, animations and notes on proper execution as you can see, so you or anybody else can do a few more without the need to send, upload and host image etc.
They don't have all of them of course, especially the intermediate progressions, so you might need to find a few more pages like that and link each specific exercise, and just use new images or descriptions for things that we really can't find already well described and illustrated on separate pages.

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Re: List: Fitness Goals with High Translation to Parkour
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2009, 12:53:45 PM »
Whichever works.  Post them here -- I am wary about that becoming confusing for me/others...but either email them to me or post them here and I will add them if they are appropriate :)
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Re: List: Fitness Goals with High Translation to Parkour
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2009, 03:01:16 PM »
edit - nevermind :D

Good list! :)
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Re: List: Fitness Goals with High Translation to Parkour
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2009, 01:01:38 PM »
Thanks man. I already had some of this on my regiment, but I need to train some of the lifting more than I am now.
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Re: List: Fitness Goals with High Translation to Parkour
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2009, 09:52:46 AM »
Just wanted to post up an incredible pull up exercise that a lot of us rock climbers use. I didn't see it above Chris, so if I missed it, please forgive my ignorance. Now without further ado...

Frenchies

These babies are going to burn your pull muscles. You only need to do these 2 times a week. Ok, so here is what you do. Do a pull up and hold it at the top for 5 seconds. Lower to the bottom and do another pull up but this time when you lower down hold it at 90 degrees for 5 seconds. Lower to the bottom and do another pull up when you lower down hold it at roughly 120 degrees for 5 seconds. Lower to the bottom.

Congratulations! You just completed one sequence of Frenchies now do as many as you can until you can’t do no more. You’ll want to do 3 sets of these bad boys with a rest of 3-5 minutes in between each set. Make sure you are holding the positions for 5 seconds, don’t cheat!

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Re: List: Fitness Goals with High Translation to Parkour
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2009, 10:28:51 AM »
Pullups w/lockouts (aka Frenchies) are useful for strengthening a particular ROM and, on their own, aren't a goal I would recommending working towards on their own.  Rather, they are a technique I would recommend to build up to doing pullups or weighted pullups depending on the level of the trainee.

With that in mind, they aren't really a "goal" as much as a "means to a goal" so I will keep them off for now.  Thanks for the insight though because Frenchies are really good for building up to pullups or increasing the weight or building up to comfort with different grips (like in climbing).
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Re: List: Fitness Goals with High Translation to Parkour
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2009, 11:19:16 AM »
Oh yeah man, I wasn't insinuating them as a goal, just an addition to your extensive list of techniques.
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Re: List: Fitness Goals with High Translation to Parkour
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2009, 03:57:23 PM »
When you suggest to pick 2 pushing exercies, 2 pulling, 2 legs/chain, and some flex. and balance - should I also pick out 2 core exercises or just leave them out. I'm having a hard time getting back into working out and such and shedding the pounds.

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Re: List: Fitness Goals with High Translation to Parkour
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2009, 07:12:29 PM »
When you suggest to pick 2 pushing exercies, 2 pulling, 2 legs/chain, and some flex. and balance - should I also pick out 2 core exercises or just leave them out. I'm having a hard time getting back into working out and such and shedding the pounds.

Don't need the core for now if your legs work is full body... such as DLs/squats/Oly/etc.
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