Topic: How do you spot a front flip?

[ir193]

OK im about to attempt a front flip on my friends trampoline. Is there any way how i should warm up or how my friend can spot me before i attempt it. Any tips for front flips. I watched alot of tutorials and i feel confident i might be able to do it.

any replies are apreciated.
thanks


irwin

[Jake Vigil]

Frontflips are very hard to start. I would suggest a reasonably decent bounce, then really throw your body forward hard. HARD. Yank your legs into the tuck, and really get the rotation going. Also, when you fail, dont try to stop yourself with your hands. Just let your ass take the impact.

[Travis Graves]

There's really no secret to it on a tramp, just jump up high and then tuck forward.. Honestly though, only use the tramp to get comfortable with the feeling of flipping, because after that it just hurts your form. As for your question specifically, it's pretty difficult to spot a front flip, so just do a search and read a few of the many, many, many front flip threads.

[Dylan Baker]

travis,
i am curious to what you mean by the trampoline giving you bad form, that doesn't make much sense to me.

[Travis Graves]

Flipping on a tramp is a different skill set, it doesn't translate into any "outdoors" situation. There is no super-bouncy ground anywhere but on a tramp, so there's different timing.

[Dylan Baker]

do you have a trampoline? because i have found that once you have learned a specific flip on the trampoline, with a little work, it is quite easy to translate it to the ground or off of a small height. and about form, the trampoline is a great place to learn form, so i'm not sure what you are getting at there.

[ir193]

Ok when i was trying front flips on my friends trampoline i kept landing on my back or my butt. im jumping but i think im tucking too early. but if i tuck at the highest part of my jump i dont get much roatation. any help?

[Kyle Gouch 'Triple K']

Ok when i was trying front flips on my friends trampoline i kept landing on my back or my butt. im jumping but i think im tucking too early. but if i tuck at the highest part of my jump i dont get much roatation. any help?

If your landing on your butt, that just means your not opening up, basically just stick your legs out. Also, if you want too flip faster, just throw your but in the air as your flipping. Remember, in a front tuck part of the height and most of the rotation comes from the hips, so just throw that butt up.

[TR]

do you have a trampoline? because i have found that once you have learned a specific flip on the trampoline, with a little work, it is quite easy to translate it to the ground or off of a small height. and about form, the trampoline is a great place to learn form, so i'm not sure what you are getting at there.

I think he means when transferring from the trampoline to the ground, you are used to the form you use on the trampoline. You have more bounce, you don't have to tuck as much, you can easily jump forward and still get the rotation you need on a trampoline. Whereas, on the ground, you don't have that extra bounce, you'll have to tuck harder, and you can't jump forward, you have to jump up. (Assuming you're doing it off the ground) Otherwise, even then, doing it off of a small wall, you'll still want that memory/form to jump up and not out.

I think the best way to transfer something over like the front-flip from a trampoline to the ground is to get SO comfortable with the front-flip that you can do it from standing (not even one push down with the legs) on the trampoline, and even then it will be a lot different on the ground.

Edit- Oh, and blocking, can't forget blocking You don't need blocking at all on a trampoline, so when you move to the ground, you'll have to learn a whole other technique.

What I did was just go to the Long Jump sand pit at my school, and plant my feet at the very end of the run, and flip into the sand pit. I would see how far away my feet were from my initial take-off, and over time of practicing it on the ground, I eventually got closer and closer, and the closer I got to my landing, the better the landing was.

[Dylan Baker]

booo for topic revivals! if you have a flip down solidly on the trampoline you should be able to figure out how to do it off of something or on the ground (use a mattress). obviously it's a different feeling. get over it! we're traceurs. this is the kind of thing we work on. enough of the nit-picking at minor infractions! just find what works for you, be safe about it and have fun!

use a gym if u have access to one tho

[MetalPanda]

OK im about to attempt a front flip on my friends trampoline. Is there any way how i should warm up or how my friend can spot me before i attempt it. Any tips for front flips. I watched alot of tutorials and i feel confident i might be able to do it.

any replies are apreciated.
thanks


irwin

if you have access to a pool i recommend trying to flip into that also. not off a diving board, just run and jump. this will tell you how you will land on flat ground. even try landing on a raft to see also
if your feet hit the water first, great, if not... well don't try it on land just yet..
(just from what i've experimented with. i have not flipped on flat ground yet, but can nail them into a pool.)

[kez.0]

well ive never do it on concrete xD but wut eva i did running- try to bounce and jump with your feets (with no bounce heels i dont remember how this its called) - while this    you should have your arms and body leaning forward (like a long kong vault) - then your jump driving forward and down (i say down but i didnt say kiss the ground Xd only nedded to a front flip when u do u understand what im trying to say  ^_^) - touch ur knee ( or only turn to you in a similar position ) - then land D: how?? well i dont know speak much english sorry xD maybe its called ''open ur legs'' u.u but wut eva u must to do the last step fast if u are so near the ground(complete rotation) or slow if u are away and ur rotation its not complete but almost. and do not be scared , if you are scared this will make it more difficult and you gonna do it with worse mood D:

srry fr my english

[MetalPanda]

well ive never do it on concrete xD but wut eva i did running- try to bounce and jump with your feets (with no bounce heels i dont remember how this its called) - while this    you should have your arms and body leaning forward (like a long kong vault) - then your jump driving forward and down
srry fr my english

i hope you mean jump straight up, as high as possible, then tuck and rotate. lol

[Jack Kendall]

Disregard kez.0's advice please. 

You do not want to jump forward or down, you want put all your force straight up to gain as much height as you can.

[209Traceur]

Alright, if anyone wants to learn on a trampoline, do this. Get a lot of height, and land on your knees. On the way up from your knees, tuck and flip. It not only hurts less if you mess up, but forces you to tuck faster, thus turning into a fast front flip from LOW heights. (Being as you dont get the most height from your knees) And voila, you learned the basic front flip

[swap01]

yeah.  Ilearned front flips by doing knee flips, thats also how  Ileanred cheat 540 frontflips (a frontflip 180, but u tuck so it makes the twist look liek a 540) and then I translaated that int oa real frontflip 180, that I'm stil lworking on. Flips are soo much fun, and once your comftorble with them, you can do them all the time and it's great. I Love my trampoline

[209Traceur]

Sigh, i wish i had a trampoline, but alas insurance doesn't cover it. Really hate the little things like that, makes it so my house is just boring

[Team Avian]

the way I learned them only took me 5 minutes to be able to do it solo

Basically, we had someone (Strong enough of course) go hands and knees for us to front hand spring over (as they are more padded than a rail or something)

Each time we did a hand spring, we'd try and use less and less weight on the person and more and more in the jump and swing...  then we started to do more of a tuck instead of a lean and then before we knew it, we were front flipping over the guy... then, once confident enough, we told him to move and then did it solo

In fact...  I feel another sketchy tutorial coming along!

but just remember...  we all learn differently... this was the only way I could comfortably do the flip... some people may find this a little awkward or prefer a different way, that is fine and is what PK is all about

-Kyle(Rage)

[Jeremy H]

As someone who has personally spent (and still spends) a LOT of time jumping around on trampolines and doing various flips and tricks in the past year and is now (late this summer) starting to learn flips on the ground:

Flips on trampolines are very different from flips on the ground.  it's a different movement and they do not transfer over.

It does however help with the fear aspect.  I am typically very confident when trying flips.
It also helps with having good control over your body and being in tune with it and understanding its abilities.  (But, many other activities also provide that (dance, skydiving, etc.)).
Thus, I highly recommend using trampolines as a helpful tool.

But, flips on trampolines do not teach you the movements for flips off trampolines.  It's very different.  And trampolines may even instill muscle memory for the wrong movements and it's very hard to get over.

[Grip]

As someone who has personally spent (and still spends) a LOT of time jumping around on trampolines and doing various flips and tricks in the past year and is now (late this summer) starting to learn flips on the ground:

Flips on trampolines are very different from flips on the ground.  it's a different movement and they do not transfer over.

It does however help with the fear aspect.  I am typically very confident when trying flips.
It also helps with having good control over your body and being in tune with it and understanding its abilities.  (But, many other activities also provide that (dance, skydiving, etc.)).
Thus, I highly recommend using trampolines as a helpful tool.

But, flips on trampolines do not teach you the movements for flips off trampolines.  It's very different.  And trampolines may even instill muscle memory for the wrong movements and it's very hard to get over.

i learned standing backflip on a trampoline, then did one on the ground
it transferred very well
i just reduced my bounce every time i did the flip until i got good at tucking