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STL New Year's Jam Planning/Discussion Thread
« on: November 12, 2008, 07:53:10 AM »
I did some looking around just regarding transportation.  I assumed good dates (obviously flexible) would be January 1 (Thursday) through January 4 (Sunday).  I haven't looked into Springfield options yet, but I can research that, too, if you guys would like.  Or, you are of course more than welcome to come up to KC early, crash with us, and travel with us to STL.  Totally up to you guys, but consider this an open invitation.

From KC, here are a few possibilities if we wanted to hit up public transit as a group.  I chose "8 adults" as a random number:

Amtrak:
  • Leaving KC @ 7:10am on 1/1/09; arriving STL 1:10pm.  Later train (leaving KC @ 4:00pm; arriving STL @ 9:40pm) is available.  Later train may be nice, as many of will have stayed up late for New Year's....
  • Return would leave STL at 4:00pm on 1/4/09; arriving KC at 9:40pm.  Earlier train (leaving STL @ 8:30am; arriving KC @ 2:10pm) is available, if people need to get back for class/work on the 5th.
  • Round trip for 8 people would be $208/each way ($416 total).  That's $26/person each way, or $52/person TOTAL (but NOT including taxes).
  • Total Travel Time:  5h40m each way.
  • Pros:  Can get up and walk around.  Lots of leg room in the seats (compared to car, bus, or plane).  Snack car.
  • Cons:  Smells like toilets.  Single decker.  Makes lots of stops in Podunk towns.


Megabus:
  • Leaving KC @ 8:45pm on 1/1/09; arriving STL 1:00am.
  • Return would leave STL at 3:00pm on 1/4/09; arriving KC at 7:50pm.  Earlier bus (leaving STL @ 5:30am; arriving KC @ 10:00am) is available, if people need to get back for class/work on the 5th.
  • Round trip costs:  From KC to STL for 8 people is $68.  The earlier return bus would be $56 for 8 people.  The later bus would be $85 for 8 people.  So, going with the butt-crack-of-dawn earlier return would be $15/person TOTAL (NOT including taxes).  Going with the later return would be $19/person TOTAL (NOT including taxes)
  • Total Travel Time:  between 4 to 5 hours each way.
  • Pros:  Free WiFi.  Double decker (pimp view!).  Cleaner and safer than Greyhound.  Doesn't make any small town stops (pretty straight shot). Very cheap.
  • Cons:  Rather inconvenient travel times.  Not much leg room.  Bathroom = *shudder*.  Would have to book soon to get good prices (ticket prices quickly get ridiculous the closer they are purchased to the date of travel).  Weird people ride buses.


Greyhound:
  • Three departure options:  (1) Leave KC @ 7:15am; arrive STL @ 11:40am.  (2) Leave KC @ 12:50pm; arrive STL @ 5:15pm.  (3) Leave KC @ 10:00pm; arrive STL @ 2:25am.
  • Three return options:  (1) Leave STL @ 1:20am; arrive KC @ 5:30am.  (2) Leave STL @ 7:30am; arrive KC @ 11:55am.  (3) Leave STL @ 6:45pm; arrive KC @ 11:20pm.
  • Round trip costs:  Total for 8 adults is $604, or $75.50/person TOTAL (but NOT including taxes).
  • Total Travel Time:  between 4h00m and 4h30m.
  • Pros:  Flexible departure times.  Fastest travel times.  Probably some epic stories to be made.
  • Cons:  Not much leg room.  The whole bus smells like the bathroom.  Obscene prices (unless we can catch a deal).  Unreliable service.  Really weird people ride Greyhound.



Fly commercial airline:
  • Departure:  Leave KC @ 1:41pm, with connecting flight in Denver.  Arrive in STL @ 6:13pm.
  • Return:  Leave STL @ 6:58pm, with connecting flight in Denver.  Arrive in KC @ 10:25pm.
  • Round trip costs:  Total for 8 adults is $3498, or $437/person TOTAL (but NOT including taxes).
  • Total Travel Time:  ~4h30m (not including airport security...).
  • Pros:  Flying!  Saying we were in Denver (only a 30 minute layover, though).
  • Cons:  No leg room.  Only 9 seats left at this price.  Not exactly in the spirit of parkour (efficiency and all...).  Airport security.  I get airsick.  And then there's the price tag...


Private Charter Jet:
  • Price:  I was afraid to ask...
  • Pros:  Super flexible travel times (we tell them when and where).  Our own private jet.  Definitely the pimpest way to go.
  • Cons:  Price.  I get airsick.


Rent a Minivan!:
  • Departure and arrival would obviously be flexible.  Probably depart KC early afternoon.  On return, leave STL early afternoon.
  • Round trip costs:  Total to rent is ~$450, but only seats 7.  So, if 7 pack in, that's $64/person NOT INCLUDING GAS.
  • Pros:  Ultimate flexibility in travel times, bathroom breaks, food breaks, music, etc.  Can be helpful once in STL.  Real men ride in minivans.
  • Cons:  Not much leg room.  Packing in 7 would be tight.  Gas can get really pricey.  Having multiple drivers is additional money.  Road conditions can be unpredictable in winter.


Post on Craigslist!:
  • Post an ad on Craigslist and basically carpool/hitchhike with complete strangers.
  • Price unknown, but would include pitching in for gas.
  • Pros:  Possibility of adventure.  Possibility of meeting cool people.  Possibility of spreading parkour.
  • Cons:  Unreliable and unpredictable.  Possibility of meeting serial killers.




So, those are just a few options.  Of course, the dates (Jan 1-Jan 4) are totally flexible as well.  It's going to ultimately be up to the guys at STL as to when they are available to host and what they're interested in.  I just thought I'd get the ball rolling.

Also, combinations of travel options may be used.  That's the beauty of buying one way tickets.  We could, for a random example, take Amtrak there and Megabus back.


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Re: STL New Year's Jam Planning/Discussion Thread
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2008, 02:42:50 PM »
Thankyouthankyouthankyou for getting the ball rolling so soon!  I say that if STL hosts it, we go either by Amtrak or Megabus.  If STL decides not to host it, KC should step up to the plate!  (Then we might get a few of the KS guys involved!)
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Re: STL New Year's Jam Planning/Discussion Thread
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2008, 10:41:37 PM »
Holy shit that amazing!!!

Personally I would go with Amtrak, you get to sleep, bathroom, food, and price.

But hey if STL can't don't it, I would love Kansas City to host it then, I would so so help out with it.

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Re: STL New Year's Jam Planning/Discussion Thread
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2008, 05:19:14 PM »
im liking the ideas, amtrak sounds good, or megabus

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Re: STL New Year's Jam Planning/Discussion Thread
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2008, 09:18:11 PM »
We need to get in contact with the STL guys and see if they want to host.
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Re: STL New Year's Jam Planning/Discussion Thread
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2008, 11:43:28 PM »
OK guys, so, i will be talking to everyone at gym(mostly Trickset) this week about this for sure! I also talk to a few of the guys out side of gym I'll have them jump on here to help arrange this. I think that having a stl jam is a great idea and once(if they don't know already) Trickset finds out they will like the idea i almost guarantee.



One thing i seen that wasn't mentioned, is lodging. I WOULD let ppl stay at my house, but not thinking my mom would like that too much( i wish i still had my own apt(stupid landlord!!!)


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Re: STL New Year's Jam Planning/Discussion Thread
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2008, 08:29:54 PM »
OK guys, so, i will be talking to everyone at gym(mostly Trickset) this week about this for sure! I also talk to a few of the guys out side of gym I'll have them jump on here to help arrange this. I think that having a stl jam is a great idea and once(if they don't know already) Trickset finds out they will like the idea i almost guarantee.

Definitely keep us posted!
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Re: STL New Year's Jam Planning/Discussion Thread
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2008, 02:24:52 PM »
mos def  ;D

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Re: STL New Year's Jam Planning/Discussion Thread
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2008, 08:32:55 PM »
well, tommorow is gym so i will let you all know after i get home form there what they all say. I personally want the jam here, i'm even gonna try to get a few days off( since i have new years day off i may have to work one of those day but i'll get the other days(1st-4th) off work

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Re: STL New Year's Jam Planning/Discussion Thread
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2008, 12:35:41 PM »
I'm down with helping plan. I can help where needed. I don't associate with Rick and Trickset enough though... so it would probably be better left to them. Anyway JB is an option for one day at least, and then definitely down by the arch and that area is pretty amazing. but the city is wonderful for it.
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Re: STL New Year's Jam Planning/Discussion Thread
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2008, 10:14:33 AM »
well i seen Gio posted somewhere on here bout the jam. He said we COULD do it. but he would rather wait till it warms up a lil IE spring or so. Which i think is a great idea, but if everyone is set on a winter/jan jam we can do that i guess lol

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Re: STL New Year's Jam Planning/Discussion Thread
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2008, 11:38:32 AM »
IMO that would be better. After the holidays I'll be changing my availability so that I can go to the gym every Wednesday which would make planning easier.
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Re: STL New Year's Jam Planning/Discussion Thread
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2008, 02:37:04 PM »
Two quick thoughts:

1)  Nobody is limited to hosting one jam a year.  One cold weather and one warm weather is acceptable.

2)  If needs be, we can start looking at the possibility of a KC jam.
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Re: STL New Year's Jam Planning/Discussion Thread
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2008, 02:39:30 PM »
well, like i've said before i won't be able to make it to any out of town jams for a while.. i have zero income so that would be out of the question for me. not that this is based around me or anything... just stating my side =]
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Re: STL New Year's Jam Planning/Discussion Thread
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2008, 06:56:56 PM »
For the weather issue. Common it's Missouri, for as long as I've remember New Years has always been hella cold. But I can understand snow and rain.

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Re: STL New Year's Jam Planning/Discussion Thread
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2008, 02:30:35 PM »
STL jam sounds good. ITS OGNNA BE COLD! i want to have one in the summer too. BUT if u guys REAAALLLYYY want to :) then we could set up some plans.
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Re: STL New Year's Jam Planning/Discussion Thread
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2008, 02:34:34 PM »
Excellent!  I'm looking forward to it!
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Re: STL New Year's Jam Planning/Discussion Thread
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2008, 02:57:41 PM »
Alright, let's throw out some dates.  I suppose it could be anytime during the New Year, but after awhile doesn't the year lose that "new" smell? :P


I'm thinking sometime in the middle two weeks of January.  The first weekend starts on Friday the 2nd, and I feel like that might be inconvenient for people that are still spending time with family (or recovering from spending time with family :P).  Unfortunately I'll be in Hawaii during those two weeks, but I'll be training with Ozzi and the UrbanCurrent crew, so I don't mind so much. :D

That would mean either the 9th through the 11th, or the 16th through the 18th.  How do those dates work for people?

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Re: STL New Year's Jam Planning/Discussion Thread
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2008, 08:59:14 PM »
Unfortunately, I won't be in Hawaii.

but the dates thrown out so far don't seem too bad at all.  I can work my life around them.  Just as long as I have enough money at the time!
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Re: STL New Year's Jam Planning/Discussion Thread
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2008, 11:51:28 PM »
Well, guys I was kinda hoping I would be on my new years break when this happens. But if I got nothing going those weekend I am so in!