Topic: Training Meets: Van Ness Station, Sept. 10, 5:30ish

[Logan H.]

Hey everyone. Starting this Wednesday at around 5:30 PM, me and Nik, a new arrival to the city, are going to be hosting a daily training session at the Van Ness Metro station although if people want, and give enough notice of said want, the location and time can be changed. The meet will last as long as people are able/or willing to continue. Right now there is no scheduled itinerary, basically we'll be winging it with whatever people want to do that day. However, it will definitely include a warmup, some conditioning, and then maybe just general practice (who knows?). In fact, if someone has an idea or a training idea then we'll definitely use it, we absorb good ideas and expect that others will absorb from us whatever they feel is useful. So come, one and all, to these meets. Hope to see you all there.

[Andy Animus Tran]

Logan, how about this weekend, I show you what I normally do for dedicated training sessions and maybe you can adopt some of that.  We'll just hit Gateway Park?

Btw, Thursday is the 11th.  And a daily training session means.. well.. daily.  Do you mean weekly?

[Logan H.]

Hey Animus, thanks for that I meant to say Wednesday, but my mind was on something else and one thing kind of led to another. As for your other comment, I do mean daily, starting Wednesday ending Friday for a weekend of rest and then resuming on Monday for as long as the winter allows us. On the weekend, I would be glad to see and learn what you do for training and adopt that into our own. I'm completely booked all Saturday afternoon starting at around 12, but apart from that, what time/day would you like to meet at Rosslyn?
   

[Andy Animus Tran]

That's.... really a lot of training.  You don't need to train technical matters that often or that frequently.

And.. how about Saturday morning, then?  Start off at 10AM?  It'll take an hour and a half.  Any more is just asking for someone to vomit.  Or die.

[Logan H.]

You don't need to train technical matters that often or that frequently.

You're right, Animus, but like I said before we're basically winging it, which is why I will meet you there. Maybe you should make a new post about? As for others, is anyone else coming to the daily meets? It would be nice to have an idea of the head count.

[Andy Animus Tran]

Oh, I can't make it tomorrow.  Tha'ts way too early for me.  I'm just getting off of work then.

I'll make a new thread once I figure out what I want to do on Saturday.

[johnny04]

Can the location be Foggy Bottom/Georgetown/Rosslyn area?  If so I can do daily with you, not today though.

[Logan H.]

Can the location be Foggy Bottom/Georgetown/Rosslyn area?

Sure, just give us a time, place, and date and we'll see what can be done. For right now, the training will continue at the Van Ness Station daily starting at 5:30.

[Aaron Neale]

it should be in silverspring although thats just me...i might be able to show up after my internship

maybe you could have a different location each day of the week to get new locations in and to make it more convienient for different people

[Nik [deCon_SLCPK] Sartain]

I'm Nik and we hung out for an hour or so today and did some minor stuff. I want to clarify my ideas on the thing.


Instead of working out rigorously or going on a 10 mile run, my idea is to train softly doing non-drill like sessions. Just hang out around an area for the day and hit whatever we walk up to for a few. In Utah, we almost always get together and just walk n talk. Rarely does anyone look to groups in order to accomplish serious training goals, but if you're looking for a group of guys to have some fun, jam around town, and get a minor work out, we may be what you're looking for. I find no reason to beat your body to death when training, as le natural method would have no such normalized training.

I'm also hoping to get a tricking group together to teach introductory flips and similar, nothing hardcore like extreme martial arts, but simple free running techniques. I'd like to have a group that would be down with both purist PK style as well as free running, as I've slowly found that the line is indeed more of a cloud, and irrelevant at that. Bring what you can to the table, take what you'd like. Have some fun, meet some folks, and that's that.

It sounds like Animus is good at physical training and I'm down for that a couple days a week, but think of this post as a way to do PK instead of going on a jog or doing a few situps. Hope to meet you all soon, and if anyone has a camcorder, more the better.

Thursday, Sept 11th will be Van Ness again -- 6:15ish meeting time outside the Starbucks by the Giant Artsy balls. Hope to see some of you there. If you need to contact me -- nik.the@gmail.com for my phone number.

Cheers!

[Logan H.]

Instead of working out rigorously or going on a 10 mile run, my idea is to train softly doing non-drill like sessions. Just hang out around an area for the day and hit whatever we walk up to for a few. In Utah, we almost always get together and just walk n talk. Rarely does anyone look to groups in order to accomplish serious training goals, but if you're looking for a group of guys to have some fun, jam around town, and get a minor work out, we may be what you're looking for. I find no reason to beat your body to death when training, as le natural method would have no such normalized training.

I understand what you're saying, but aaaaawwww man. Now you've just gone and ruined the fun of going through a really tough conditioning session and waking up the next without functioning legs

I'm also hoping to get a tricking group together to teach introductory flips and similar, nothing hardcore like extreme martial arts, but simple free running techniques. I'd like to have a group that would be down with both purist PK style as well as free running

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[Andy Animus Tran]

Nik, I'm surprised to see you make any claim about the Natural Method, or methode naturelle, in that manner, seeing as I'm already going to assume you've never trained with any of the French Hebertistes, or anyone who HAS trained with the Hebertistes, or anyone who has trained with anyone who has trained with the Hebertistes.  I don't mean that as an insult, but that you shouldn't make claims about a physical philosophy you know nothing about (and if you did know anything about it, you wouldn't have said that).  I have done TWO MN training sessions under Dan Iaboni's tutelage, who is friends with both the Belle family and Erwan Le Corre, and both of those were enough to absolutely slaughter me.  Easily the most intense and ridiculous work-outs I've ever had.

You also talk about "doing Parkour, instead of sit-ups."  For one, I hate sit-ups.  I hate exercising that isn't a part of movement, and that kind of conditioning is about 1% of what I lead people through.  Parkour is the conditioning, not the techniques..  The techniques are just the icing on the cake.  First, you must develop the foundation and maintain the foundation.  Most people do not do this, and that's why I offer a weekly session where they can get a grasp on what it means.  90% conditioning, 10% technique.  That is Parkour.  That is its heart and its soul.  Develop the body to be strong, so that it can be useful.

This all said, there's nothing wrong with the lazy jam.  That's what makes our community stronger!  But I personally prefer to actually train on a daily basis (i.e. work on the foundation), and practice my technique on the lazy jams once a week or so.  Daily just seems like too much with no gain.  Sure, it's fun!  Technical training is the best part of it all!  It's the reward at the end of the week for putting in so many grueling hours of developing that foundation.  I see no reason to do it daily, though.  It doesn't help you progress.  There's a severe limit to technical training.

[Nik [deCon_SLCPK] Sartain]

You're right, I haven't trained with anyone from that method, however the name associated with something is strictly semantics, and if it were true to name, I see it as being anything used naturally(hunter/gatherer), which is how I (mis)understood it.

I used think PK was srs bizness, but I figured it took the fun in training away after I tried to define something that is different to everyone. Personally, I use Parkour as an outlet that I can combine fun, a good workout, and a method for critical thinking of space. Others may use it as a technique to test their physical aptitude or seek peer approval, but not for me. It's all in what you want to get out of it. If you want to work hard on whatever day we meet, fine...I'm no stranger to extremely vigorous workouts (I used to have an Olympic personal trainer who had worked with greats such as Johnny Mosley), but really I can get a good workout if I do PK in itself.

I don't want to scare casual traceurs and free runners away that just want to get started, or don't have the same capabilities as others. Bring who you want with whatever mentality you want, but we can decide on a daily basis how hard we want to train, and how. Seeing as it is a daily thing, there is no need to go balls to the walls, but I'd rather do my own training on the side and bring it to the table with a group that wants to go out and have fun. Technical training is where I've almost completely developed my agility, leaving strength behind as a by-product of free running. But that's what makes it Parkour to me, I'll leave it up to you guys to pick why you want to choose this discipline. I hope I can come get my ass beat with your sesh, Animus. But until then, I'll see everyone in the daily post I'm about to begin. If in the event, anyone would like to work out, I would suggest attending an Animus event and then taking that to the daily meet or home to train on your own.

Please, if you see the daily post, check around noon and either make the post yourself if its not there, or add your location request so we can all agree on a spot.

[Andy Animus Tran]

Yeah, fair enough.  And of course, whatever you want to do, do it, so long as it's not going to harm you or anyone else!  People need a strong foundation, especially in their personal training, and I try to give them something to take home with them (as you said).  That's the real point for my sessions and why it only would occur weekly.  It helps to be able to think for yourself and approach fitness and conditioning in a good, solid way to build the foundation, but to not get lost in the mire.

Weekends are aaaalll about the fun to me, though.  Except this weekend.  This weekend, we work.

[Logan H.]

Hey Nik, I can't make it for training tonight. Just found out I have to babysit my little brother Hope you have more fun than I will.

[Pilou]

Hey Logan, Nik,

  this is a great idea, and a nice complement to the other (read: more conditionning-heavy) type of training favored around here =D

I'll do my best to come and meet you guys once a week, if you can push back the meeting times to something more worker-friendly
like 6:30-7pm.

Aaron also had a good idea for varying locations, maybe try to hit a different area every week or something ?

Anyway, what's the plan for this week ? I'll post it on the DC metro PK website (which you're welcome to use for postings and such, by the way)

Pilou

[Logan H.]

That's great Pilou Unfortunately, I will be unable to participate in any of the meets this week. Our teachers decided that THIS week was a great time to pile on a bunch of projects...which are all do during a 2 day period. So for right now, I'm swamped, but once the homework is slain then I shall return to training victorious

So that means that for this week and possibly part of next, I will be unable to attend any of the evening meets. Weekends...will have to wait and see.

[Aaron Neale]

i would love to come but this wednesday i have a college fair to attend. next week however i would love to.

[Nik [deCon_SLCPK] Sartain]

Sorry it's taken a while to respond. I'm game for any day of the week, and as I've said, if you want to workout, we can... if you want to just chill and jump on stuff, I'm also game. Send me a message in order to grab my cell phone number, and then we can set up everything via phone. Any one, any place, any day.. I'm down.

-Nik

[Pilou]

I'll be here today at 5:30pm, Van Ness 

It's probably a good idea to figure out who's interested in this format
and come up with a regular place and time, so no need for endless phone
messaging (and it's easier for newcomers to show up). Maybe make a post
announcement every Sunday about the location and time for the coming
week, so that you can change venues from time to time and people know
it's still going on ?

That being said, I'm probably going to aim at once a week personally
(I spend already too much time at Primal), and anytime after 6:30pm would work
for me.