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Re: 10-15 foot Drops....
« Reply #220 on: December 09, 2009, 08:10:21 PM »
Focus, guys. ;)

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Re: 10-15 foot Drops....
« Reply #221 on: December 09, 2009, 08:11:56 PM »
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Re: 10-15 foot Drops....
« Reply #222 on: December 09, 2009, 08:18:20 PM »
you

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Re: 10-15 foot Drops....
« Reply #223 on: December 09, 2009, 11:40:05 PM »
you

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I don't know if you're sarcastic or not, but that's probably his personal quote.

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Re: 10-15 foot Drops....
« Reply #224 on: December 10, 2009, 06:45:51 AM »
I don't know if you're sarcastic or not, but that's probably his personal quote.

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Re: 10-15 foot Drops....
« Reply #225 on: December 10, 2009, 11:05:09 AM »
how high is 15 feet?
like 4 metres or something.

thats not that high, but your body is not ready for that.

build up to it and come back in 6 months time.
see how you feel.

15 feet drops not high, your kidding right?
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Re: 10-15 foot Drops....
« Reply #226 on: December 10, 2009, 02:12:54 PM »
15 feet drops not high, your kidding right?

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Re: 10-15 foot Drops....
« Reply #227 on: December 21, 2009, 07:18:35 PM »
NO MY FRIEND do NOT do this I REPEAT THIS AGAIN do NOT do this man, your gonna hurt yourself, over here at apk we are roof nazi's now im prob too late by now, but i hope either your made it and are fine ( i would prefer this ) but I'll be ok if you jacked your legs up and learned a lesson from it too.
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Re: 10-15 foot Drops....
« Reply #228 on: January 31, 2010, 09:08:08 PM »
Yea, when I was a kid, like 10-15 years old, I did quite a few big drops, not as parkour, just as fun. I'm sure a lot of you older Traceurs on here did big drops when you were kids. I think it's a pretty common activity of adolescent boys to jump off things. I was just a thrill seeker, doing jackass kinda things, I BMXd and skated and whatnot ya know. I even fell off a 12 foot roof onto my back when I was 15. I had numerous lower back spasms while riding my bike and once snowboarding.

I'm 20 now and in the past year I've had two severe back spasms, which leave you in agony for a week (these were prob brought on by weightlifting at the time, but I certainly have a predisposal which im getting to) and then in minor pain for the following month, limiting your physical abilities. My MRI results showed numerous disk herniations, spinal stenosis, and degenerative disks and facet disease. They also showed a birth abnormality in my back, which apparently 30% of the male population has, called a "transitional vertebrae".. which basically changes the biomechanics of your back and just leaves you a little more likely to getting a back injury. All that aside, the docs said my back is basically fine with the exception of one moderate disk herniation(which pinches a nerve and causes my right leg to be numb) and that physical therapy should make everything better. I've been in it for two weeks now, and it's been 3 months since the last spasm, and my back pretty much never hurts, even while doing parkour.

MY POINT is... that my back probably got like this from all the stuff I did when I was young, and perhaps from all those drops. Also, if 30% of males have a transitional vertebrae, that means you could have it too, leaving you predisposed. Dealing with my back the past year was really shitty, it slowed down all my gym training, it's slowed down my parkour training, it f#cking hurt, it's made me depressed, and it just sucks, and it's not even THAT BAD of an injury. and it will come back to haunt me if I don't condition the f#ck out of my core

So, a few big drops when you're a kid are not the end of the world, as I'm sure tons of the older Traceurs played outside as children and jumped off things, it's just what boys do. I say this just so that older guys who knew they jumped off things, don't suddenly get mortally terrified of loosing their knees tomorrow. BUT if you're still really young, do yourself a solid and avoid the big drops.

Us older Traceurs can't undo the damage we may have done as kids, but if you're a kid now, you can. And that means the future of parkour could be a bunch of Traceurs who never damaged their bodies as kids jumping off stuff, and then they can excel further than we ever thought.

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Re: 10-15 foot Drops....
« Reply #229 on: March 07, 2010, 11:49:31 AM »
i try to keep my jumps to little platforms like porches and picnic tables.  :D
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Re: 10-15 foot Drops....
« Reply #230 on: March 09, 2010, 08:07:10 AM »
id probably have to say don't do it, ive only taken a few 15+ drops and i only did them cause i had to get down in a hurry, it didnt hurt it was just really scary and i never sit their and practice them, its bad on the knees, plus 4 weeks training time is not nearly enough, ive been doing parkour for the greater part of my life and im not even prepared to do them.  But if you do, do it make sure you get a good roll or you might mess your body up.

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Re: 10-15 foot Drops....
« Reply #231 on: March 18, 2010, 07:40:58 AM »
To the people who say "I want to do it so I know if I ever have to, I can."

When are you going to be on a rooftop and need to take an emergency 15-20 foot drop?

Really? I'm just kind of sick of hearing this.

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Re: 10-15 foot Drops....
« Reply #232 on: March 20, 2010, 05:07:03 PM »
To the people who say "I want to do it so I know if I ever have to, I can."

When are you going to be on a rooftop and need to take an emergency 15-20 foot drop?

Really? I'm just kind of sick of hearing this.

Ive always wondered the same thing. I also wonder if the same people people train sprints, in case there in an open parking lot and have to rely on only foot speed to get away or to catch. My guess is no.

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Re: 10-15 foot Drops....
« Reply #233 on: March 20, 2010, 06:21:48 PM »
Ive always wondered the same thing. I also wonder if the same people people train sprints, in case there in an open parking lot and have to rely on only foot speed to get away or to catch. My guess is no.

Of course not. That doesn't involve inane amounts of adrenaline and fulfillment. Why the heck would you train something like proper running technique?! ;)

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Re: 10-15 foot Drops....
« Reply #234 on: March 31, 2010, 09:07:11 AM »
wow! 12 pages of this?? daym lol
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Re: 10-15 foot Drops....
« Reply #235 on: May 21, 2010, 06:03:17 AM »
To the people who say "I want to do it so I know if I ever have to, I can."

When are you going to be on a rooftop and need to take an emergency 15-20 foot drop?

Really? I'm just kind of sick of hearing this.
yes but some of may have to...im going to be a SEAL or Spec.Opps so i may have to, thats why i train with it....i know these will be my jobs too.
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Re: 10-15 foot Drops....
« Reply #236 on: May 22, 2010, 06:28:49 PM »
I just read all 12 pages of this (so I don't repeat a comment, or fail to consider a comment, etc.). I know it's a SERIOUSLY old thread, and the issue is long passed with the OP, but I can't help but wonder...

...how all of the experienced practitioners/posters who immediately said "Don't do it!" or sarcastically said "Do it and suffer [insert various potential injury] and I'll laugh while you learn a lesson" would feel if someone came up behind them on their movements and said the same thing? 

It seems that it comes down to training, preparation, and skill level, not blanket rules about not doing a particular movement. I've seen videos of plenty of the people who make these comments doing movements that a beginner probably shouldn't do, yet no one says "don't do a cat pass over a 4'wide, 15' drop" or what-have-you. Perhaps we can make our criticism more constructive and useful (as some people have done) and less stilted and accusatory?

I additionally find it amusing that, when given an example such as David Belle (who just about everyone on here has no doubt seen take pretty serious jumps/drops over gaps) all of a sudden the story changes from "don't do it!" to "well if you're experienced like him then it's ok."  How about some consistency? If you say it's never ok to do it, then you'd better be prepared to tell David Belle himself.  So, are you?

(I'd like to state that I do NOT think that a person 5 months in should probably be attempting a 15' drop. But I do NOT agree that no one should ever do it ever.  Just my $0.02. Go ahead and start reaming me out for it  ;) )
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Re: 10-15 foot Drops....
« Reply #237 on: May 23, 2010, 06:15:46 PM »
"reaming me out for it"

Matt, you make me worry when you use that type of language bro! ;)

In all seriousness though, I've been doing this stuff for about two years. I've done everything very progressively and trained in a really safe way while pushing my limits. An 8 foot drop to me now is much different than one 1 year ago, or even one 6 months ago for that matter. You have to be extremely truthful with yourself as well as conscious of what is happening with your body, but you can FEEL whether or not your ready to do bigger things.

I personally am not sure of the long term effects of things like this, but as David said in his famous Je Saute De Toit En Toit video we are dieing every minute. I would personally rather push things a bit past what I believe my limits are than be at a standstill in my training. I'm still trying to figure things out for myself, but I was hoping that posting this would help others clarify their thoughts on the subject.

Also to clarify, I don't train 8 foot drops. I do however train things like 12-14 foot wall runs and doing a hang drop down is somewhere between 6-9 foot. Anyway, here's a bit of food for thought and discussion guys ;)

Also, wouldn't a 12'+ cat leap be directly proportional to a drop of that height minus the effects of gravity?
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Re: 10-15 foot Drops....
« Reply #238 on: May 24, 2010, 05:54:59 AM »
good points both of you and i agree with both the last posts...i've always felt like when someone is ready to do something then they can try it, there's nothing wrong with training in drops or the cat that was menchined, but i think a way to clarify everything is to direct the comments to beginners, intermidiate, and advanced people....what we need is seperate forum threads for beginners intermidiate and advanced traceur(e)s so we no where to go and can find information of our skill lv....we cant forget the newbs though nor can we ever forget the founders, but we have to work with our peers to get better...

(ive been away from apk for a while so if there are these threads then srry for the old idea ;) if not then i think its a good idea...anyone else)
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Re: 10-15 foot Drops....
« Reply #239 on: June 02, 2010, 05:45:48 PM »
i dont think people are being contradictory by saying "never train these drops" and then saying "its ok if youre experienced" simply because if youre experienced you dont TRAIN the drops. you may do them as a stunt for the camera, but you do not TRAIN them. if youre out there jumping off of an 8 foot wall for twenty minutes a day, id like to see you walk in ten years. twenty minutes on the same move (maybe not that long/short) is training it. doing it once is testing yourself, or on camera is doing it as a stunt, but you shouldnt train it.

we all learn one way (usually the hard way) what our limits are. if fear doesnt stop you from taking a drop thats too big, the pain will. if neither do, as weve all said, i hope you enjoy wheelchairs
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