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French terms for individual movements

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Parkourdan:
What if I told you I was Pawa as well... I sound different though huh.

 :P

Some people do, use these only.. yes. And like I said, I hold nothing against people that don't. Only the people who feel the need to name each and every move and fight about what makes kong and monkey different and nonsense like that. =P

Gareth EE Field:
I like using specialized names. If I'm telling someone how I fell doing a dive kong, I'm not going to call it a monkey. I might say that I fell trying to vault over something, but if I'm going to bother with giving the technique a name, I'm going to give it the name I think it should be given. I admit there are some problems with my system though, as there are too many ways to do things to name all of them and it's a problem when people don't agree on where the line should be drawn between an individual technique and a variation. One of the situations the language of parkour frustrates me in is when I'm talking about theif vaults. When I run directly at an obstacle, lets say a four foot high and half foot wide wall, I will sometimes throw my right leg up and to the left and then as I get above the wall I'll power my legs through and forward while placing my hands on the wall next to my hips and at the apex of the vault my torso will be upright and forwards. I call this a theif vault. I differentiate it because of the direction I approach the obstacle from and slight differences in the movement of my legs at the beggining of the vault. But someone can say to me, "That was a lazy vault! You threw the inside leg up and your weight went back!" The speed vault is another one that frustrates me. One way of doing is almost what I call a theif, another way is like a jump that takes the person to horizontal and then they push back to vertical at the end, almost like a one armed sideways kong. Then there's all sorts of other ways to do it, and it's all really a speed vault. They all do the same job.

Hmm ... after writing that I'm realizing that I really don't know how I want to deal with the names ... eep! I know that I don't like using the french names though. I'm an anglophone. I use English to describe things. The fact that I CAN pronounce the french words, be it with an uber-Parisien accent (thank you french class  :-[ ), does not mean I'm going to. Cross culturally, a wall is a wall, and I don't know if muraille even means wall. I have more respect for the language and more faith that French walls are like American walls than to mess with the names.

OMG it's philosophy class all over again! Objectivism baby! Bruhah!!

Tsumaru:
I find it far too difficult to use different names to other people. So I generally just go with the UF-style vaults, while trying to get some clarity out of them. Ie - through some time of analysis I found a more specific definition for the difference between lazy and thiefs. While it's essentially not of much value, as it is pretty much the same difference as a monkey and kong; I keep it in my mind anyway. Personally I'd prefer to annihilate kong, and annihilate thief, but that's rather difficult. So I don't tend to use thief personally, but still use kong, because people who use the word kong are going to be confused if I say monkey for the same thing. *shrugs*

Rafe:
Its funny cause in the local scene nobody uses monkey any Saut Du chat style vault is kong around here. I personally dislike the UF the sound like something little kids would come up with.

Tsumaru:
Yeah, they are a little bit kiddy. But, here's the thing. You can either use the French terms and only have some people understand you, the UF terms and have most people understand you, or make your own and have nobody understand you. The choice is yours, really. =P

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