Translation of Methode Naturelle Book
Thursday, 04 June 2009
 

Pilou, a Primal Fitness and DC local who grew up in France has found, translated, then made available for us, Georges Herbert's "Methode Naturelle." He writes:

"For the past few months, I have been reading and experimenting with Georges Hébert's physical education guide from 1912 that I found digitized on Google Books. I think most traceurs have heard something about Georges Hébert, the "Natural Method" and how it somehow relates to Parkour. Thanks to that book, I was able to see for myself what it was all about, and I have to admit that I have been very impressed."

Read more for the rest of his introduction, and then download the PDF of Methode Naturelle, available only on APK in English for the first time!

Beyond the many jokes one can make about old pictures of men in shortsprancing around in a perfectly erect posture, this book shows a lot ofinsight in the mechanics of human movements and how to use them totheir best. In 1912, Hébert had started a school for physical educatorin my hometown of Reims, France (a place now turned into a park where Iplayed unknowingly for many years), and was training the French olympicathletes for the games of 1916 (which were cancelled for reasons ofWorld War I, in which many of his disciples died on the front lines).This book summarizes the guidelines he wanted to provide to hiseducators and athletes.

After reading this, I wished more traceurs here could benefit from hiswork, and so I went ahead and started translating chunks of his book,omitting much of the theory to concentrate on the most practicalinformation about movements and exercises in order to build a "1912Méthode naturelle"-style workout for people to try. There are stillmany parts missing, but this current version is fully usable andapplicable to Parkour training as it is, so it is only fit to give itto all of you for National Parkour Day. I hope this will also motivateothers (with better knowledge of lifting, throwing, swimming,defending) to join me and finish the work.

Last, I want to make clear that Méthode naturelle is not NaturalMovement or MovNat, the training method that Erwan LeCorre built from amodern view of Hébert's works, Parkour, free running, martial arts. In1912, little was known about oriental disciplines, and athleticism hadthe rigidity of military training (much of modern military training, bythe way, originated from Hébert's method). This book might not beexactly what you expect. I hope you will enjoy reading it, and that itmay bring something new to your training, and at least straighten yourposture (it surely improved mine)!

-Pilou

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1. 06-04-2009 05:36

GREAT! This guy definitely had mad skill. Where can I find the PDF?

2. 06-04-2009 06:38

Link?

3. 06-04-2009 07:11

I suck, sorry guys. Link fixed.

4. 06-04-2009 10:16

It's remarkable that his example picture of what he considers "poor posture" would, by today's standards, be considered on the healthy side. The shoulders are slightly rotated inward, the neck relatively straight, though a bit forward -- still an improvement over the "clerk's stance" that everyone walks around with today.  
 
All very cool Pilou, thanks for this.

5. 06-04-2009 14:58

I was doing similar over on HIPK. I think I was about 1/2 chapter behind you ;D 
 
Congrats, and thanks for all your work. 
 
At HIPK I also did a quick translate of Hebert's "Physical Education or Complete Training by the Natural Method" which you can find here

6. 06-04-2009 15:05

hey...whenever I download this (and any other PDF), all I ever get is a bunch of incomprehensible symbols...if anyone knows what I'm talking about, could you help me figure out how to change them into English?

7. 06-05-2009 03:56

Redownload and reinstall Adobe PDF Reader.

8. 06-05-2009 07:07

Cool find, btay :)  
I'll definitely incorporate the rating scale in the next version, it was sorely missing in the Guide Pratique.

9. 06-05-2009 08:59

Great job Pilou! It's really interesting to finally know all the info behind those funny pics Lol, still i'd like to have the original french scan if you could send it to me, maybe i could help translate the throwing and lifting section, but i'm really interested in the workout section. :zzz

10. 06-05-2009 09:39

Thx Pilou

11. 06-05-2009 12:18

The ratings scale may have been in some of the pages that Google didn't scan. The one in pages 33-36 of "PE by MN" was the most detailed one I've found.

12. 06-09-2009 08:20

this page is kinda screwed up, some of the words are going into the pictures and its bothersome... 
 
(plus a few typos :p)

13. 06-09-2009 08:55

oh, and the actual translation: page 29 has the word "loosing" instead of "losing" 
 
:)

14. 06-16-2009 04:33

A few remarks here, Pilou it is a noble intention to share information with people and my intent is not to lecture anyone but you need to be really knowledgeable and not interpret things if you want to be accurate and avoid misleading people : 
 
_if you read Hebert, not just a few pages or one book, you would notice that he underlines the necessity of fighting what he calls a "military rigidity" or stiffness. Still, archive photos often display a technical style that is lacking naturalness, but it was his concern though to avoid it. 
 
(read next)

15. 06-16-2009 04:39

_Hebert knowing little of oriental martial arts: 
1889 first travel and demonstration of Judo in France by founder Jigoro Kano. Hebert is then 14 years old. 
Jigoro Kano will visit France 4 more time, last visit in 1938, to instruct people. In 1908, naval officer Le Prieur studies judo in Japon. I remind that Hebert was a naval officer himself and was in charge of the physical instruction of ALL French marines, sailors and of course officers. Judo was not the only discipline introduced in France, but also Japanese jiu-jitsu (the same type that was introduced to Brazil in the same years)

16. 06-16-2009 04:44

_France had their own martial arts, the most famous one being the Savate, a local kick and strike boxing style. It also had a tradition of freestyle wrestling, and there were also clubs of self-defense fully based on street applications, resembling close-combat systems and involving nasty techniques that have not much to envy to kravmaga for instance. France also had local wrestling styles like for instance the Briton wrestling ("lutte bretonne").

17. 06-16-2009 04:48

_last, that you like it or not, Hebert's work/books/material remain Hebert's family intellectual property, currently Regis Hebert's rights, and unfortunately they don't allow people to display that material. In any case, it is their choice and by providing that material, you are basically infringing their legal rights, if not purely stealing their property. It is up to you to decide if it is the right thing to do, some people have strong ethics, others don't. I haven't done it out of respect and French and Belgian remaining MN practitioners have never done it either for the very same reasons.

18. 06-16-2009 06:30

Dear Erwan, thanks a lot for all these great points. I am particularly happy to hear the details on stiffness, as the pictures appeared somewhat forced to me, probably to emphasize the point about the erect posture as opposed to a hunched back with shoulders forward. I will also correct the bit about martial arts; though my point there was that it is truly impressive that Hebert's method had so many common points with other arts even if he may not have practiced them. I will make sure that these points are clear in the 'translation'. 
As for copyright issues, see below.

19. 06-16-2009 06:41

With regard to copyrights and intellectual property, I did have to think quite a lot about it. Google made the book available online as 'copyright free in the US', which might be arguable already. From there, I found it a pity that this invaluable book would be only readable by French speakers, where it would benefit immensely the Parkour community at large. This conundrum reminded me of fandub in Japanese Anime: fans would release english subtitles for the anime they love to share it, removing it if an official translation comes along. (next)

20. 06-16-2009 06:55

I do truly hope that Hebert's legacy gets translated professionally, and maybe even that my 'pirated' version would incite Regis Hebert and a publishing company to do so. I'd be the first to buy that book! In the meantime, I am hoping this offers to many traceurs and other athletism enthusiasts a first taste of methode naturelle, and that experts like yourself will accept to forgive and help correct the many shortcomings of my flawed translation effort. Georges Hebert's work fascinated me, and I decided to put out this translation out of awe and respect, without any financial gain for myself.

21. 06-16-2009 10:58

Cher Pilou ;-) 
 
Not copyright free in France and Europe but 'copyright free in the US'...then let's happily rip Hebert family's heritage in the US then, that they like it or not! 
Simply out of respect, it has never crossed my mind to do that, it has never crossed the MN educators'minds in France and Belgium (that have been teaching MN for decades and have internet presence for several years) and it has never crossed Regis Hebert's mind (unfortunately, but only him knows why) but why bother if Google says it's "ok" it must be true hey?

22. 06-16-2009 11:18

"download the PDF of Methode Naturelle, available only on APK in English for the first time!" = "we ripped it first, for your eyes only!" 
I hope I could see only positive consequences but can actually very easily picture bad ones if more of this was done, like self-proclaimed MN "experts" becoming also "MN community leaders" by launching so-called "MN" websites overnight and providing tips on forums fully based on...partial and arguably legally obtained internet information not true knowledge or experience, spreading misconceptions, mixing everything up. 
 
Does the word "dilution" rings a bell?

23. 06-16-2009 11:36

Guys if you are truly SERIOUS about learning MN, how about going study and train with hebertists in France/Belgium just like many traceurs have done a "pilgrimage" to Lisses, roaming the streets trying to meet DB or an OT, or like other people are going to the Shaolin temple? 
Hebertists have training sites, websites to be contacted, they instruct beginners in the original method and have decades of experience + some educators speak English. Isn't THAT a serious and respectful manner to do?  
That translation may look smooth, nice and "legal" but that's ripping Hebert's legacy by force anyway...

24. 06-17-2009 02:18

Now that I have expressed what I had to say about that topic...train well guys, expand and enrich your experience, skills and awareness :-)...but please help me and other certified coaches of Methode Naturelle and remaining groups of practitioners in France and Belgium to keep a proper and accurate image and understanding of MN. 
Please contribute in avoiding the dilution of the method and legacy. We want, by that I mean myself and the French/Belgian MN leaders, to not let an internet craze dilute it all and ruin what has been maintained for decades until now.

25. 06-17-2009 02:27

It is a matter of preservation and I am sure I can count on everyone's understanding here and that you can feel that to us it is a serious concern, as the internet can cause serious damage due to ignorance, misconceptions, personal interpretation and commercial exploitation.  
I recommend you learn either with the Belgian MN federation or MovNat if you want to base your practice on solid foundations or maybe coach the MN or MovNat method to your community. 
 
I also invite you to read the post I wrote on www.movnat.com titled "The Roots of Methode Naturelle" to learn where MN comes from. 
 
Cheers

26. 06-18-2009 09:15

Erwan, I respectfully disagree with your position. Since it has been made available copyright free I don't feel that Pilou is "ripping on anything". And if it is within the bounds of the law, then yes, that is one qualifier for what is "right". But, I really don't want to argue that point. 
 
What I will say is that "Preserved" is the understatement of the year, kind of like Parkour was "preserved" before Rush Hour and Jump London - but what is the value of an art, the art itself, or the benefits people get from practicing it?
M2.

27. 06-19-2009 17:13

"Now that I have expressed what I had to say about that topic...train well guys, expand and enrich your experience, skills and awareness :-)" 
 
My dear Mark, I have expressed my legitimate concerns, as well as my sincere encouragements as shown above ;-). 
I wish everyone to benefit of this translation through actual experience, while encouraging them as well to respect that Methode Naturelle is a predefined practice and concept and that there is already an existing coaching structure with several DECADES of existence and experience, particularly in France and Belgium.

28. 06-19-2009 17:30

It means that anyone seriously interested in learning more, in maybe learning how to coach MN or in getting involved should do it the right way, i.e getting in touch with the Belgian Hebertism Federation or with the French groups as well. 
I am underlining that MN is not a free-lunch concept and that despite MN intellectual property rights are owned by Regis Hebert, they are the only people legitimately entitled to represent MN and handle coaching, teaching, transmission and also communication and development since only these people are seriously literate and experienced in Methode Naturelle.

29. 10-26-2009 07:03

Epic :grin

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