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« on: May 07, 2008, 04:24:44 PM » |
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So yeah, I'm going to start tricking, since summer is coming and I'll have alot more free time. I don't know how many people on this forum are really into tricking, but I'm pretty sure a few are. Anyway the point of my post...I was wondering if there are any like starting out tips. Like order of things to learn or good streches for flexibility. I'm decently flexible and can do some tricking type things (fronts, double legs, b-twists, almost a 540 kick, etc), but need to know where to go from now. Pretty much any information anybody has about tricking would be awesome. Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2008, 04:45:14 PM » |
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jujimufu is goona be your man, youtube him and check out the site.
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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2008, 05:46:21 PM » |
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Yeah tricksturorials is amazing and Juji is an animal, but I want to hear what others did too. Like I go out in my yard about once or twice a week and just try things, I just wanna hear what others do and if they have any helpful tips. But you're completely right, TT is the shit.
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2008, 09:41:54 AM » |
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wel.........do you go to an open gym?
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2008, 01:53:49 PM » |
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yeah, pretty much every other monday
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2008, 03:27:56 PM » |
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Yo I'm with Acewall on this, I have no clue what an average trickster looks like. I mean when I first started pk/freerunning I though I could be the Oleg kid in like a year, which I found to be totally false. I mean is jujimufu like the Daniel Ilbanca of tricking, or would Anis more be like him. I've been watching a lot of Towels videos and ther great but how much experience and training does it take to get to that point? I've also looked at the tricking bible that was posted in this forum recently, how long would it take the average person to get the class A trick down to okay level, then what about B, C, and so on?
Thats a lot to put on a few kids in this forum but I'd really appreciate some answers, thanks.
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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2008, 03:51:06 PM » |
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Well the class A tricks are the hardest to learn by far. All the tricks after them are basically variations and combinations of the class A tricks so once you get the basics down your progression becomes much easier. Don't let this scare you off though, once you get the 6 essential basic tricks tricking starts to get much easier. Almost all tricks are essentially just variations of the following six basic moves: 540, 360 crescent, aerial, back flip, butterfly twist, and the double leg. This has an up side and a down side. The bad thing about this is that it could take you awhile to get good at tricking and if you don't have the dedication you could end up not getting very far. The good side is that once you learn these moves all you have to do is get good at these. After that learning the more difficult moves will be fun and no where near as challenging as learning the basics for the first time. All you're doing from here is adding spins, kicks, and merging moves or taking a new approach to the move. Even the hardest moves like the snapu-swipe is just the merging of a 540 variation (sideswipe) and a butterfly twist. I would recommend reading through this page from trickstutorials.com: http://www.trickstutorials.com/index.php?page=content/starttit will give you a very good idea of what to expect with your development and such. |
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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2008, 08:08:08 PM » |
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I have read that, but still. And everyone knows that the basics are the hardest, its like that with 90% of activities. But on another scale how long has jujimufu been training, I've looked but can't find it. Even Anis what about him? How long did it take them to get where they're at?
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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2008, 06:45:27 AM » |
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Juji and Anis have been training a LOONNGGGGGG time. Practice Practice Practice is the key to tricking. You really have to take the time to practice smallre kicks...build them up...etc... I mean it's just like how you practice parkour. If you can do the basics, keep working on them. They can ALWAYS be better: Are your kicks head height? Are you spotting your target? Are you a good height on your flips and torques? Are they fast kicks? These are things that will only develop with practice. If you have the basics down, the next step would be to a)learn new tricks b) learn to combo. With comboing, its alot of imagination and creativity(which defines you as a trickster). Watch other tricksters videos...get ideas. Dumb down harder combos, like if you cant Jacknife-cartwheel-front fulltwist, try a 540-cartwheel-frontflip. Youtube is really all you need. There are so many tutorials and other people on there that you have all the resources you need. Check out teams such as: Team FS Team Arashi NAN TxTricksters Loopkacks(Nick Vail, Dan Pitlock, Mike Maguire, Kyle Mcclean Loopkicks Hurricane Tricksters And people such as: Sesshoumaru Anis C. Dave C. Dan Perez Hans Wikkling(ugh, spelling?) and also check out the trickstutorials forum: http://trickstutorials.com/forum/it's uhhhh....different to say the least compared to americanparkour forums..., a little more vulgar and rediculous...but there's alot of good resources on there about conditioning, stretching, martial methodology etc... And for a real in depth look, check out Sesshoumaru's Tricking bible: http://dogentricks.com/videos/TheTrickingBible.pdf |
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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2008, 07:00:32 AM » |
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IMHO, either join an adult tumbling class or join a martial arts class.
My friend was a "self taught" trickster... you know, watching videos on youtube and such.
He ended up tearing some ligament in his legs because he tried a frontflip from a ledge.
So, to avoid injury, I suggest you get some professional help. It may feel strange when you're in a tumbling class, but it will be well worth it in the long run.
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« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2008, 07:13:22 AM » |
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IMHO, either join an adult tumbling class or join a martial arts class.
My friend was a "self taught" trickster... you know, watching videos on youtube and such.
He ended up tearing some ligament in his legs because he tried a frontflip from a ledge.
So, to avoid injury, I suggest you get some professional help. It may feel strange when you're in a tumbling class, but it will be well worth it in the long run.
that just sounds like he wasn't warmed up. unless he really screwed up the landing and landed weird. juji and a bunch of the other tricksters that have been around for a while are all self taught though. a tumbling class will definately help but if your going to go that route i would much more suggest hiring a private gymnastics instructor for like an hr or 2 a week. instead of following some tumbling class with a bunch of gymnasts. you can tell him what you want to work on and they'll give you the basics you can work on till the next class. |
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« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2008, 04:27:13 PM » |
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IMHO, either join an adult tumbling class or join a martial arts class.
My friend was a "self taught" trickster... you know, watching videos on youtube and such.
He ended up tearing some ligament in his legs because he tried a frontflip from a ledge.
So, to avoid injury, I suggest you get some professional help. It may feel strange when you're in a tumbling class, but it will be well worth it in the long run.
I was considering taking a martial arts class so that I could work up the basics in tricking, but I'm not sure where to turn to. Which particular martial art would be most beneficial for a beginner? |
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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2008, 05:58:54 PM » |
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IMHO, either join an adult tumbling class or join a martial arts class.
My friend was a "self taught" trickster... you know, watching videos on youtube and such.
He ended up tearing some ligament in his legs because he tried a frontflip from a ledge.
So, to avoid injury, I suggest you get some professional help. It may feel strange when you're in a tumbling class, but it will be well worth it in the long run.
I was considering taking a martial arts class so that I could work up the basics in tricking, but I'm not sure where to turn to. Which particular martial art would be most beneficial for a beginner? tae kwon do is pretty good. lots of good kicks, especially precision kicks. helps with balance and body control too. |
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"I've missed more than 9,000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game-winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed."
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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2008, 06:24:56 PM » |
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It also depends on the instructor. My friend started tricking from TKD. I've taken TKD but I never really progressed in it and through my 3 months, had never seen anyone do a frontflip. When I took Kung Fu, we had a specific day devoted to speed/jumps. Everyone was flipping over the place!
Robillard: I never thought of hiring a professional gymnastics coach. That sounds perfect! When I called the local gym, they said they did not allow me to use their facilities before or after the session. It was do tumbles for 1hour then go home. Students were also not allowed to choose what they wanted to learn.
Call up your local gym and martial arts school and ask around. Everyplace is different!
edit: oh yeah, Jujimufu and Tagashi started learning it from TKD (I think) I know it's some martial art.
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« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2008, 09:26:19 PM » |
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Thanks guys, I'll look into taking some classes. I'll let you know how it goes.
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