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« on: March 26, 2008, 07:02:10 PM » |
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Um yea, so I have a question.... sorry if it seems sorta dumb.
What's softer, sand or grass?
I really can't tell the difference with my feet and I don't want to find out which is softer by landing on my face. So, I'm asking you... which is softer? Or are they pretty much the same?
Edit by M2 - please use titles so people know what a thread is about. (I fixed this one)
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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2008, 07:06:15 PM » |
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sand. But sand is annoying. Especially wet sand.
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2008, 08:05:13 PM » |
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Loose sand like at the beach or in a long jump pit is very soft. Grass is okay because the soil beneath it gives a little. But wet packed sand, like you'd find down by the water's edge at the beach or a bay or something, can be hard as cement.
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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2008, 08:20:13 PM » |
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Your not going to slip around on the grass though like you would on the sand....Is this for learning rolls?
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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2008, 10:46:31 PM » |
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I'd have to say if you can't tell you might want to spend more time figuring it out ... and also trying not to land on yor face anyway.
If someone says "grass" will you go dive on your face on grass?
To me, part of Parkour is learning and discovering - you tell me, which is softer?
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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2008, 12:59:51 AM » |
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I'd have to say if you can't tell you might want to spend more time figuring it out ... and also trying not to land on yor face anyway.
If someone says "grass" will you go dive on your face on grass?
To me, part of Parkour is learning and discovering - you tell me, which is softer?
BAAAAAMMMMMMM.... Finally someone brought some sense to this thread...
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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2008, 12:18:21 PM » |
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To the well trained traceur a drop onto cement feels as soft as a drop onto the softest grass you could find! But if this is for drilling rolls or landings, I wouldn't worry too much about which is softer... The harder the surface is, the more quickly you'll be aware of improper technique! (Not that I'm advocating starting your rolls on cement). And if you're drilling landings and worried about how soft the surface is, you should be training with smaller drops until you're more confident and have better landing technique!
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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2008, 12:19:37 PM » |
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But to answer your question  I would have to say that a thick lawn is softer than sand, unless it is VERY fine. Sand often does not give at all, at least not vertically.
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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2008, 12:51:15 PM » |
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Just got back from the beach and... sand! Sand + snow is even better! I'm not kidding... there was a nice layer of snow on the beach. It was awesome... great to practice rolls. My friend and I (he's the one on the top in my avatar) were jumping of ledges and dunes into the sand... it was really fun. Plus, running up those dunes was quite a workout 
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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2008, 04:40:18 PM » |
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I'd have to say if you can't tell you might want to spend more time figuring it out ... and also trying not to land on yor face anyway.
If someone says "grass" will you go dive on your face on grass?
To me, part of Parkour is learning and discovering - you tell me, which is softer?
Actually, I'm probably the kid that would go dive into the grass on my face. And, I'm new to this whole Parkour scenario, and as I was "learning and discovering" when I sorta dislocated my shoulder. So, thats what lead up to me asking this question. So, I will answer your question "which is softer" when I'm healed =) Your not going to slip around on the grass though like you would on the sand....Is this for learning rolls?
Nope, not really. They're for learning flips... which I know, is not a part of Parkour. and sorry M2 about the whole title thingy... This was one of my first threads.
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« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2008, 05:12:13 PM » |
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Well if it's for flips, sand all the way. It's how I learned front flips, and as soon as it's summer I plan on going to the beach and practicing every flip/trick I know. I loooove sand. And after your done with your tricks you can go for a nice swim or surf, pick up chicks, etc. Sand is all around good.
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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2008, 07:44:09 PM » |
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There's no absolute answer.
I went jogging on the beach the other day and my feet fell about 1 foot into the sand. Then again, some sand is so compacted, cars drive on them (seriously, lifeguards drive their pickups on it)
Also, regardless of the grass, the underlying soil can be clay-like, or well aerated, which will make it softer (don't ask me how I know all this)
If you have a choice and you're spending time contemplating which to choose, I'd say throw a coin so you get to training on not landing on your face :-)
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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2008, 09:10:58 AM » |
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EKK - sorry to hear about your injury!
No worries about thread title, it's something I'm starting to advocate, you'll see it on other threads to.
It is unfortunate that your learning experience has been stalled - just as I suggest "learning for yourself" I also suggest "looking for god info and help" wen it comes to technique and things that may not be easily discovered by yourself. There is a fine balance
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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2008, 10:57:21 AM » |
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just as I suggest "learning for yourself" I also suggest "looking for god info and help"
Uh oh, we're getting religious in this thread? 
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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2008, 11:56:38 AM » |
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just as I suggest "learning for yourself" I also suggest "looking for god info and help"
Uh oh, we're getting religious in this thread?  Hahaha, M2 makes typos in all the right places.
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