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« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2008, 07:34:21 AM » |
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Awesome guide, thanks! I just recently started running, and this helps a lot. I'm having trouble correcting my ankle position though. My feet seem to want to angle in when I run; not the toes pointing in, but my feet roll in such a way that when they come down, the outside edge of my foot hits the ground first, if that makes sense. I'm trying to correct it, but when I compensate for it it feels goofy and unnatural. Is this a common issue with newbie runners or do I just have goofy feet or something?
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« Reply #31 on: June 14, 2008, 07:12:47 PM » |
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I do the exact same thing you do.
I don't know for sure whether I'm wrong or right, but I think that's fine.
Try this: Run barefoot, and land with the inside of your foot first. It hurts! For some reason, it tends to be more sensitive to impact... Try running with what you're naturally doing: having the blade of your foot hit first: It feels a lot better and more natural! With that alone, I figured it was fine and kept doing it.
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« Reply #32 on: August 04, 2008, 07:31:42 PM » |
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+1, if I could, I would give you plus two; One for the article itself which was brilliant, and two for the advice and how to actually run. My neighbor has a field which is about 60-70 yards long and about 100 yards wide. Before, reading the article, if I tried to run the perimeter, I would be gasping for breath by the end and would still be extremely winded for a while afterwards. Until reading this article I always wondered why I never got a 'second wind' while running, but know I know that it was because my back wasn't straight and I didn't belly breathe.
However when I went and ran the perimeter of the field again, keeping in mind everything you said in your post, I was barely winded at all, and my leg muscles felt good, like I had used them properly for the first time in my life. It felt great because I had never been able to run that far without being winded and having to catch my brath, which in turn made me think that my cardio-vascular system was in horrible shape. But, thanks to your article, I feel great because I now know that I am in much better shape than I had previously thought. Sorry for the long post that is somewhat repetitive in parts, but I feel awesome now, and it is in thanks to your article.
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« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2008, 01:28:44 PM » |
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That was a wonderfull article. I myself was not a very good runner so it turns out, though I still don't have much endurance. So tell me, is the best way to build running endurance to run longer distances and times, simply to run as long as you can every time as it gradually improves, or is there a better way in gaining that kind of endurance?
Also, I don't have asthma or anything, but when I run, and get tired, I am ussually very out of breath, and(and ?I'm not sure if this feeling is entirely normal, as I don't really know any runners) but my chest, specifically right in the middle begins to actually (the closest word I can think of is hurt, but it's a really dull kind of pain), is that entirely normal? Will that pain eventually go away as I grow used to running more?(maybe it has something to do with my mother and sister being a smoker and me being around it all my life)
Along with that if a weird throat feeling, feels like I'm running in winter, even when it's hot out, it gets really sore and that doesn't really help that rythemic breathing.
Of coarse this could all just be standard problems for new runners, but I figured I would get some input and advice on it.
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« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2008, 02:28:40 PM » |
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That was a wonderfull article. I myself was not a very good runner so it turns out, though I still don't have much endurance. So tell me, is the best way to build running endurance to run longer distances and times, simply to run as long as you can every time as it gradually improves, or is there a better way in gaining that kind of endurance?
running endurance and running longer distances is something that should be approached slowly and diligently. To increase distance you should have a very scheduled plan involving a 10% increase in distance per week. Meaning if you currently run 10 miles per week, then the next week increase it to 11 and no more. You should also include HIIT's into your routine. Google these to learn more, or use the search function in this forum as there is a lot of information on them here.
Also, I don't have asthma or anything, but when I run, and get tired, I am ussually very out of breath, and(and ?I'm not sure if this feeling is entirely normal, as I don't really know any runners) but my chest, specifically right in the middle begins to actually (the closest word I can think of is hurt, but it's a really dull kind of pain), is that entirely normal? Will that pain eventually go away as I grow used to running more?(maybe it has something to do with my mother and sister being a smoker and me being around it all my life)
No it is not normal as this is what I generally always run with due to my personal problem with asthma. This dull pain for me will never go away thanks to scar tissue on my left lung thanks to asthma. If you've been around smokers for your entire life it would be wise to get a pulmonary capacity test done on yourself to see what kind of damage is present. The pain for me has never gone away, I've just gotten better at dealing with it. The only form of comfort I can offer is that if you do have lung problems, as your VO2 max increases, it will become easier and easier to run at slower paces. 7 minute paces used to be obscenely difficult for me and now I no longer have any problems at this pace. Sub 6 minute paces bring this pain back.
Along with that if a weird throat feeling, feels like I'm running in winter, even when it's hot out, it gets really sore and that doesn't really help that rythemic breathing.
You might just be gasping too much or taking in too much air through your mouth which will dry out your throat and make it sore. This is the only real problem I can think of which will cause this especially when it's less humid in the winter and hot summer months.
Of coarse this could all just be standard problems for new runners, but I figured I would get some input and advice on it.
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« Reply #35 on: August 18, 2008, 07:05:40 AM » |
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Thanks, I guess after reading over the whole thing I had forgotten about those parts. Also, I'll try and change my breathing.
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« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2008, 11:58:39 AM » |
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Great job  ! I found the article to coincide with everything I've been taught. I consider myself a "decent" runner. I couldn't find anything in the article on swinging of the arms  It really bugs me when people swing their arms across their chest since it is such a waste of energy (esp. in girls >.>, keeping your hands in a thumbs-up position helps this) Also, looking down can really help if you're in a natural environment where you're at risk of twisting an ankle. Looking down to where you step can save you from tripping and falling. But if there isn't any danger one should look ahead. Just my two cents. |
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« Reply #37 on: September 27, 2008, 11:35:07 AM » |
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Thank you for the article, I learned a lot  . I have a small question though. You encourage landing on the mid-section of the foot... by this do you mean the balls of our feet? And also, when I run, I support myself only with the balls of my feet; my ankles never touch the ground. I hear from other forums that this places a lot of stress on my ankles, but they never really feel any tiredness or overuse. What are your thoughts on this; is it safe? |
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« Reply #38 on: September 27, 2008, 12:44:59 PM » |
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Great job ! I found the article to coincide with everything I've been taught. I consider myself a "decent" runner. I couldn't find anything in the article on swinging of the arms It really bugs me when people swing their arms across their chest since it is such a waste of energy (esp. in girls >.>, keeping your hands in a thumbs-up position helps this) Also, looking down can really help if you're in a natural environment where you're at risk of twisting an ankle. Looking down to where you step can save you from tripping and falling. But if there isn't any danger one should look ahead. Just my two cents. Thank you for the article, I learned a lot . I have a small question though. You encourage landing on the mid-section of the foot... by this do you mean the balls of our feet? And also, when I run, I support myself only with the balls of my feet; my ankles never touch the ground. I hear from other forums that this places a lot of stress on my ankles, but they never really feel any tiredness or overuse. What are your thoughts on this; is it safe? If you watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLg4j4gMzqA starting at about :53 seconds you can slow motion mid-foot strike. It looks like the runners are about to strike on their heals but then they actually land on the back of the balls of their feet. They also swing their arms slightly across their chest and let their shoulders move in a relaxed manner to counter act the torque of their legs. |
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« Reply #39 on: November 19, 2008, 09:54:21 PM » |
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I have a small question though. You encourage landing on the mid-section of the foot... by this do you mean the balls of our feet?
And also, when I run, I support myself only with the balls of my feet; my ankles never touch the ground. I hear from other forums that this places a lot of stress on my ankles, but they never really feel any tiredness or overuse. What are your thoughts on this; is it safe?
Everything I've learned from college sprinting says that landing "full footed" decreases the amortization phase of running, which is to say: the amount of time your foot is on the ground. I've never heard of it from the perspective of lowering joint stress. Plyos are taught this way as well. When you land on the balls of your foot there is too much time loss as your anke has to flex and extend again. If you're looking for speed, then full-footed is the way. If you have the musculature, especially in the hamstrings, you should be able to handle any landing stresses. |
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« Reply #40 on: November 19, 2008, 10:10:48 PM » |
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Sprinting is a different technique than running involving a "pulling" type motion. If you're looking for sprinting then yes perhaps full footed but a definite change in mechanics is needed. However, for recreational runners (the main audience this article was directed toward) mid-section landing is warranted with slight changes depending on your pace.
I say mid-section because each person is different and the possibilities for structural changes are vast. Mid-section is an area that is not the toes nor is it the heel which should give those learning how to run properly a good idea of where a foot-strike should happen. This helps them adapt to their own unique running sequence.
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« Reply #41 on: November 19, 2008, 10:12:43 PM » |
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Thanks for the concise guide. I realize now that I've been running heel-to-toe with a hunch this whole time. I'll have to pass this info along to some of my friends.
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« Reply #42 on: November 20, 2008, 05:25:25 AM » |
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I have a small question though. You encourage landing on the mid-section of the foot... by this do you mean the balls of our feet?
And also, when I run, I support myself only with the balls of my feet; my ankles never touch the ground. I hear from other forums that this places a lot of stress on my ankles, but they never really feel any tiredness or overuse. What are your thoughts on this; is it safe?
Everything I've learned from college sprinting says that landing "full footed" decreases the amortization phase of running, which is to say: the amount of time your foot is on the ground. I've never heard of it from the perspective of lowering joint stress. Plyos are taught this way as well. When you land on the balls of your foot there is too much time loss as your anke has to flex and extend again. If you're looking for speed, then full-footed is the way. If you have the musculature, especially in the hamstrings, you should be able to handle any landing stresses. hmmm i land my sprints on the balls of my feet...whenever I go full footed i notice significant decreases in my sprint speeds...but there are always exceptions to these rules |
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« Reply #43 on: November 20, 2008, 11:18:08 AM » |
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I've actually heard both, although I have yet to hear a clearly reasonable argument for the full footed style. Edited my last post to avoid confusion.
Also, if this is going to explode into a sprinting mechanics debate I'd rather you do it in another topic.
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« Reply #44 on: December 10, 2008, 09:29:36 AM » |
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This is a really good load of info! it so true that you said that we never learn to run. iam 17, and was obese for the better part of 6 years. when i turned 14, i started to work out, gain some muscle, and iam never going back to fat again! That's why i love parkour so much, it gives me a channel to unleash my energy and get better physically! but i can't run or jump with proper form, so right now iam working on finding info on these topics so that i can continue to adapt and overcome any obstacle. Thanks once again!
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