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« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2008, 02:19:33 PM » |
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Wwell, actually, the clean does not include a bicep curl.
You explosively jump the bar up with the hips/legs adding a trap shrug and pulling the elbows up high so that the bar moves upward without any bicep tension. When the bar reaches it's apex - the very top - imagine a cartoon image of the bar just momentarily floating in the air; you then very quickly pull yourself underneath into a squat while swinging your elbows underneath and in front to catch the bar on top of your delts - just in front of your throat - elbows high in front.
There are different versions of the clean:
clean (or squat clean or full clean): start from the ground, explosive pull/jump upward, catch in a squat then stand
power clean: start from the ground, explosive pull/jump , catch while standing or near full stance (slight dip allowed)
hang clean: start with the bar around the knees or lower thigh area, explode, catch in a squat, then stand
hang power clean: start bar around knees, explode, catch near full standing
if it starts near the knees: hang if caught nearly standing: power
easiest to start with may be hang power clean but practice all types
most metabolic is the clean (start from ground, catch in squat, then stand)
more weight can be caught in the squat version because you don't have to launch the bar as high
Once you get the bar to the top, then you can do a shoulder press (no knee bend), push press (knee bend to get extra jump, allows for more weight), or jerk (knee bend to get extra jump, then dip again to get your body a little lower than the bar, allowing for max weight)
Most metabolic combination is clean & jerk; highly explosive and alows for the greatest weight moved, should improve just about all other lifts as well as vertical jump. Also, this will get you ready to learn the more explosive snatch and it's similar combinations with hang and power.
You can find videos of these on crossfit.com faq area.
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« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2008, 02:46:42 PM » |
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Ozzi is also from Venezuela. We're always teasing him about his spelling. Yours is much better Power clean. It's similar to a squat + curl with an overhand grip. The jerk is the part of the movement that pushes the bar overhead. Clean and jerk. It's much more complex. Yeah I'm going to agree. Power clean mechanics are not similar to a curl however is ten times more functional than bicep curls.
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« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2008, 08:31:39 PM » |
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Thanks. My description sucked. Trying to be too brief. Even when I went on-line and tried to find descriptions of the movement, they weren't very good. Yours is better.
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« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2008, 01:03:59 PM » |
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After 2 days of rest and overeating (cake, chinese food, etc), I went for a 6 mile jog
This was a huge undertaking as the weather was particularly hot and humid today, but I felt I deserved to be punished!
Tomorrow I'll hit the gym for back and legs, then I'm off to Colorado. No telling if there will be any training there, I'll just have to take things as the come... hopefully I'll behave with the food at least
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« Reply #34 on: March 24, 2008, 07:02:57 AM » |
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Today was a so-so day. I wanted to incorporate cleans, so I moved up the lunges so that the bicep aspect of cleans wouldn't interfere with my pull-ups (I'm working towards doing muscle-ups). I didn't feel really energetic today, for some reason, so I chickened out of the cleans and did squats instead. I might be coming down with a cold, which isn't too great considering I'm going to Colorado today. My workout looked like this:
Back workout Pull-ups: Sets of 9, 6, 5, 5 and 5 Pull-ups with closed grips: Sets of 4, 4, 5 and 5
Leg workout 4 sets of lunges with 22.5 lb dumbells. (I took it easy, cause I'm not used to this exercise yet) Squats with 135 lbs: 5 Sets of 10 (nice call ChadmanX *1).
Shoulder workout: Lateral raises with 22.5 lb dumbells: Sets of 10, 10, 10, 10 and 10 Frontal raises with 22.5 lb dumbelss: Sets of 10, 9, 8 and 8 Military Press, with 95 lbs: 4 Sets of 10
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« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2008, 04:51:14 PM » |
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Have a great time in Colorado!
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« Reply #36 on: March 25, 2008, 12:16:25 PM » |
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Have a great time in Colorado!
Thanks, BTay So far everything has been hectic. Running from one place to another without time to look for a place to eat. I've been stopping at gas stations to eat stuff that has been giving me headaches, and haven't had time to buy aspirin... GRRRR!
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« Reply #37 on: March 30, 2008, 06:53:09 PM » |
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It feels great to be home! Colorado gave me a hard time. They had some Salmonella issues and bombarded the water with chemicals. I unknowingly drank a bunch of it the first morning and became intoxicated. This triggerred off a cold I had been successfully fending off for 3 or 4 days. Additionally, the chlorene in the water was burning my hands (I washed them a lot cause I kept blowing my nose, and din want to make others sick). It reached a point where just bending my fingers caused my knucles to bleed (EEEEK!!!). The last day, I noticed all bathroom sinks also had hand lotion "Oh, NOW I get it!" Anyway, I'm home, where I can drink the water and I am recoverring from my cold, so tomorrow I'm looking at a light workout. Nothing too crazy, only as my cold and shoulder (see: http://www.americanparkour.com/smf/index.php?topic=9092.msg108130#new)permits
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« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2008, 08:40:59 AM » |
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Colorado really did a number on me. I realized that today after going to the gym and feeling immediate loss of stamina after my second round of pull-ups/squats/laterals
I did 5 sets of each and just went on the elliptical for the remainder of my workout. I was however glad to see I could do 10 pull-ups on my first round. Today's workout went like this
5 rounds of: Pull-ups, sets of 10, 8, 6, 5 and 4 Squats with 135 lbs, sets of 10 Laterals with 22.5 lb dumbells, sets of 12.
Alas, it seems like I'm not fully recovered yet. I was sweating profusively for the small amount of exercise I had done. Hopefully, it won't take too long to fully recover
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« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2008, 12:00:39 PM » |
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Sorry to hear about Colorado. Hope you're feeling well, soon. Keep us posted!
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« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2008, 12:26:39 PM » |
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Thanks, BTay
As the day progresses, I'm starting to realize that with the exception of some minor shoulder issues, I'm feeling fine.
I hope in tomorrow's gym trip, I'll have more energy. If so, I'll call my problems over.
I'm even going to practice some vaults tonight. That's gotta be an indication of something.
BTW... I'm planning on furthering my transition to crossfit. It just seems more intense and less time consuming, which is what I really need (more time to do parkour)
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« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2008, 12:38:09 PM » |
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I've failed to mention in the past that I also do about 30 minutes of stretching every morning while I'm drinking coffee.
I only do about 4 stretching movements, but I'm looking to expand. Here's what I do:
- 1 foot toe touching while on the floor. I grab the base of my foot to the point where I'm stretching calves, hamstrings, glutes and maybe lower back - Butterflies: I'm almost able to bring my chest to my feet while my knees are on the floor. - Kneel cuadricep stretches: I don't know what these are called, but I get on my knees and lean back until I am resting on my elbows and my hands are grabbing my feet. I also rest my neck so that I am looking in opposite direction to where my knees are pointing.
I sustain all of these, no jerking, until I find the pain unbearable. Then I switch to another stretch and do the same. I'll iterate through all these until it's time to hit the gym.
If you guys can help with the names, I'd really appreciate it.
Also, if you'd like to recommend some stretching exercizes, maybe some you like to do, that would be great too.
I'm having some trouble with splits. I can only open my legs in about a 90 degree angle (yes I know that's terrible). I haven't insisted too much because of some hip problems I had a couple of weeks back, but I think it's time. If you want to recommend something to help attain a wider split, I'm all ears!
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« Reply #42 on: March 31, 2008, 06:14:37 PM » |
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I tried some lazies on the barrier I built tonight.
I have been overly anxious to get my PK into gear, to the extent that I have been reluctant to make the modifications deep down inside, I know have to be made.
Today I learned the hard way that a barrier that's too high is good for practicing vault on, not for learning. The barrier is in essence too high, about a foot over my waist. To make matters worse, I am following Ozzi's tutorial on Lazy vaults. I still think his method is the best, but the barrier is not suited for it without modifications.
In essence, learning the Lazy Vault consists of kicking your leading leg over the barrier, while sostaining your body weight on one arm until the trailing leg follows. Because for starters you'll probably have difficulty getting the trailing leg over, the tutorial calls for leaning the trailing leg and gradually moving it higher until you eventually make it over.
My barrier only has a low base you can lean the trailing foot on, so, you will eventually have to go all the way, so when I tried, the trailing leg didn't make it and swung below the border I was holding on do. In essence I fell back.
I am glad I have been working so hard on my shoulders, because my right shoulder landed on the 6'' high barrier foundation (as I fell I actually thought 'not the neck, please'), and the rest of my body on the floor. I contribute the fact that I didn't really hurt myself because by contracting the shoulder, I was able to absorb the impact. I feel no pain whatsoever, but there will probably be some bruising
I'm probably going to keep my current barrier for when I'm more skilled and build another one that's lower, has no gaps so it's more like a wall structure, and make it wider. I might even go for a full 8 foot width.
After the fall, I tried another couple of times, mostly out of frustration, realizing it's only monday, I've already gone a week without training, and will have to wait until saturday until I'm able to build the other barrier. Bleh!
I went to training on the paralettes I built, trying to transition into a handstand. That'll take a while, but it was to be expected. That was also cut short: time to unpack the suitcase
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« Reply #43 on: April 01, 2008, 07:38:01 AM » |
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Summary: - I'm back in action - For those of you who think your advice has fallen onto deaf ears *caugh* Steve *caugh*  I've finally substituted bicep curls for cleans Today's workout: 4 rounds ofBench press with 210 lbs, sets of 10 Cleans with 95 lbs, sets of 4 Declined situps, sets of 15 4 rounds ofInclined bench press with 135 lbs, sets of 6 Cleans with 75 lbs, sets of 6 (yes I did 8 sets total) Leg raises 3 rounds ofDeclined bench press with 135 lbs, sets of 10 Crunches My stamina is back with me, so I'm over the cold I guess. Left shoulder gave me some trouble through the first sets of bench presses, but I was fine afterwards
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« Reply #44 on: April 02, 2008, 07:24:54 AM » |
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Exciting night for me!
Since my fall on the obstacle I built, I have been keeping away from it as I thought it needed some modifications to make it safer. So I spent some time working on my parallettes, trying to transition into a handstand.
Although I did make some progress, this was by no means the highlite of the evening. At one point, a light bulb turned on. I thought of placing one paralette in front of the other, rather than side by side. If it could sustain my weight, I might be able to learn to cat balance. It did, and I did. After about 4 or 5 tries, I began separating the parallettes further and further, and began to feel comfortable enough to begin lifting my center of gravity.
I'll practice this for a week, then I'll actually do some cat balance walking on a real rale!
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