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« Reply #180 on: November 21, 2008, 10:02:33 AM » |
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Great to have you back kevin.
Glad to hear you are going to give SS a try!
As for cleans, you can do BB Rows but i think that you would benefit more form a weighted pullup/dip program. on Workout A add one and on Workout by Add the other, imho.
Hell you can do BB rows too if you want, I just don't find them too beneficial -- maybe you want to do Kettlebell Cleans or swings because of the lesser impact on the knee? Or maybe cleans with PVC to get the form down at VERY low impacts?
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« Reply #181 on: November 24, 2008, 09:15:19 AM » |
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Or maybe cleans with PVC to get the form down at VERY low impacts?
Cleans with a pvc pipe to learn form is a good idea. I think that I will do that for a few weeks while I see if the squats and deadlifts aggravate my knee at all. If my knee feels good and I feel good about my clean form, then I will start do them. Today SS: Warmup: 2 rounds of 10 airsquats, 10 pushups, 3 pullups Light versions of squat and overhead press Workout: 3 x 5 Squats @ 115 3 x 5 Standing overhead press @ 75 lbs. (no wonder I have such a hard time with handstands, I have wussy shoulders) 3 x 5(really was 5,4,3) Weighted pullups @ 15 lbs. I had problems with the weighted pullups because there is not a good place to do pullups at my gym. The pullup machine has all sorts of grips except straight ones and I kept banging my knees on the vertical supports. I tried doing the pullups on a lifting cage, but my grip became the limiting factor because I was hanging on a flat edge that required an open grip. Weight: 206 lbs.
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« Reply #182 on: November 24, 2008, 09:44:04 AM » |
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It is 10:30 am and I have already consumed more than a half gallon of milk. I don't think drinking a gallon of milk a day is going to be a problem for me. I thought it might be after reading some people concerns about how much milk that is, but I am now thinking a gallon might not be enough.
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« Reply #183 on: November 24, 2008, 10:09:35 AM » |
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I am convinced ur metabolism and/or hypothalamus is fucked up in that you have satiety issues  Just playing, of course, but ygood job on the GOMAD....are you finding it difficult to eat meals in addition to the milk? Also, be careful on drinking it too fast -- many people (self included) tended to go overboard and drink too fast and had...bad experiences as a result 
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« Reply #184 on: November 25, 2008, 12:21:25 PM » |
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Hey, Kevin
I plan on taking the gallon of milk a day together with SS early february.
Good luck, brudda!
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« Reply #185 on: November 26, 2008, 09:59:20 AM » |
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I am convinced ur metabolism and/or hypothalamus is fucked up in that you have satiety issues  That made me laugh, it instantly brought to mind two gossips talking behind people's back. Gossip 1: So, what's the deal with that Davies guy? Gossip 2: He has... satiety issues. Hey, Kevin I plan on taking the gallon of milk a day together with SS early february. Good luck, brudda!
I think that will be interesting to see how that works for you compared to how it works for me. The reason I say that is that I have hardly ever done any weight lifting and I know that you have done quite a bit. Hopefully it will work well for both of us. Today's exercise: Warmup: 2 rounds of 10 squats, 5 pushups, 3 pullups. Light versions of squat, benchpress, and deadlift Workout: 3 x 5 squat @ 125 3 x 5 benchpress @ 135 3 x 5 deadlift @ 135 for fun I 4 muscle ups on the pullup assist machine with 100 lbs. of assistance. The platform gets me to just below the transition area so I have to do the transition and dip part on my own. The weight assist just helps me have a little more momentum. I think I might add this to my A workout and keep dropping weight until I can through the transition purely on my own generated power. I also found a way I can do my weighted pullups. I just stick the bar on one of the smith machine to the top rung. It is a little low, but if I bend my knees I can hang down all the way. Here is a problem maybe someone can help me with. My gym does not have any squat racks. So I have been using a smith machine for the squat and as I add more weight, this is really starting to bug me. The smith machine's path is not totally straight up, it is at a slight angle. Should I do the squats so that the bar move forward as I go up, or so that the bar goes backward as I go up? Or should I forget squats on the smith machine and do leg press instead? Weight: 206 Waist at bellybutton: 34 inches Approximate Body Fat: 13%
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« Reply #186 on: November 26, 2008, 10:09:29 AM » |
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Here is a problem maybe someone can help me with. My gym does not have any squat racks. So I have been using a smith machine for the squat and as I add more weight, this is really starting to bug me. The smith machine's path is not totally straight up, it is at a slight angle. Should I do the squats so that the bar move forward as I go up, or so that the bar goes backward as I go up? Or should I forget squats on the smith machine and do leg press instead?
You need another gym.... No Pullup bar and no squat racks...this gym's setup is not in line with your goals.
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« Reply #187 on: November 26, 2008, 10:15:39 AM » |
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Here is a problem maybe someone can help me with. My gym does not have any squat racks. So I have been using a smith machine for the squat and as I add more weight, this is really starting to bug me. The smith machine's path is not totally straight up, it is at a slight angle. Should I do the squats so that the bar move forward as I go up, or so that the bar goes backward as I go up? Or should I forget squats on the smith machine and do leg press instead?
Weight: 206 Waist at bellybutton: 34 inches Approximate Body Fat: 13%
You might want to consider changing gyms LOL Here's what I've been doing that has been working wonders for my legs 1) Cleans 2) Thrusters Leg presses are good, but they don't translate into real-life, functional movement. You can do thrusters with 40 lb dumbells, and work your explosive leg power together with your shoulders and your entire core Cleans + Jerk is also awesome. I've been doing very little squatting lately. Not that that's a good thing, but I've been doing a lot of CLeans, Thrusters and Deadlifting to keep leg power up. THey will also help your explosiveness... I'm sure Chris will elaborate more on this
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« Reply #188 on: November 26, 2008, 10:22:44 AM » |
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Kevin, disregard my comments
You're doing SS, so you need to find another gym, bro
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« Reply #189 on: November 26, 2008, 11:00:07 AM » |
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Unfortunately, for practical purposes such as time and money, I don't really have any other gym options at the moment. I am okay with doing the pullups off of the smith machine. It is mainly the squat situation that is bugging me. All the other exercises I don't have any problem doing. I was thinking maybe I could try a front squat, because the bench press benches have wide racks or alternatively I could see if I could get away with doing taking a barbell inside the smith machine cage and racking on the smith machine hooks. Or I can complain to the management until they put in a squat rack.
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« Reply #190 on: November 26, 2008, 11:02:39 AM » |
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You need to do your squats freestanding. As you go heavier, the smith machine is downright dangerous.
You can clean the weight to FS position but you will soon fail on your cleans before you exhaust linear progression on even the FS. Also the FS is a great exercise but the BS utilizes more musculature (which makes it useful for getting bigger and stronger quicker as a novice). FS would be better than nothing though if at all possible.
You need a rack -- gotta find some way to make it so.. :\ Got a garage?
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« Reply #191 on: November 28, 2008, 10:17:36 AM » |
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Yeah, I am going to have find a way to get a rack. I am not really lifting too heavy on the squat right now, but I will need to find something better before I get to too heavy.
I am visiting family for thanksgiving so I don't have access to gym so I will not be doing any SS until monday. Thanksgiving day my wife, who is training for a half marathon, and my brother-in-law where running a 5k and on the spur of the moment I decided I would run it too. I haven't done any running or jumping for about a month because I have been having knee problems. Initially I was going to try to run with my brother-in-law, but my knee started hurting after about 200 meters, so I dropped back and ran with my wife and helped her run a post-children 5k p.r. of 33:28 (avg. 10:52 minute miles). It was a lot of fun just to help my wife do well and not feel any pressure to run fast. My knee hurt a little bit, but today it actually feels really awesome. If it keeps feeling like this for a few days, I might try a few precisions and box jumps and see how that goes.
Today, I probably won't work out, but I did go to a running store with gait analysis and get some new shoes. They told me that the shoes I have been wearing were designed to be stability shoes for people who over-pronate. Using their video gait analysis they showed me that I have a neutral foot strike and that my shoes may have been causing me to unnaturally supponate which may be one source of my knee problems.
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« Reply #192 on: December 01, 2008, 05:36:42 AM » |
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Saturday I worked on rolls for a while. I did both right side and left side rolls. Right sides rolls feel more natural to me, but strangely even though left side rolls feel unnaturally the are always significantly smoother. I also worked on handstands and frogstands. I realized I was making some fundamental mistakes in how I was try to balance. I have not been having nearly enough tension in my arms and have been trying to balance just with my hands. I tried pushing hard into the ground with my arms and found it much easier to balance.
Today is back to SS. My plan for today:
Warmup: 3 round of 10 air squats, 10 pushups, 3 pullups Light versions of squat and press
Workout: 3 x 5 squats @ 135 3 X 5 press @ 85 3 x 5 weighted pullups @ 15
1 x 5 practice cleans w/just the bar (35)
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Weight: 209 Waist at bellybutton: 34 inches Approximate Body Fat: 12%
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« Reply #193 on: December 04, 2008, 07:25:43 PM » |
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Yesterday I did workout B of SS. Warmup: 2 rounds of 10 squats, 5 pushups, 3 pullups. Light versions of squat, benchpress, and deadlift Workout: 3 x 5 squat @ 140 3 x 5 benchpress @ 140 3 x 5 deadlift @ 145 Weight: 208 Waist at bellybutton: 33.5 inches Approximate Body Fat: 12% I decided to make a nice chart so to help track my progression towards my goals of having my bench, squat, and deadlift at or above body weight, overhead press at 75% body weight, and weighted pullups at 25% bodyweight. 
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« Reply #194 on: December 04, 2008, 07:36:50 PM » |
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Nice chart man! I wanted to do that too, but i got lazy  I like it a lot! How is learning clean form with PVC/Bar? Also, i am guessing ur still at that gym with no rack?
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