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« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2007, 11:53:54 AM »

so basically i'm just starting parkour. and i figured that rolls and landing would be the best way to start. so at first my rolls sucked, but now their coming along pretty well. i can jump off low heights into a roll blah blah. so now my right shoulder is pretty sore. its probably normal since im just starting, but is their something i could be doing wrong?
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« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2007, 02:23:04 PM »

If its sore a lot of the time, then that is bad. Videotape your form and look at it, and compare it to a GOOD roll tutorial (like Ozzi's) and see if your rolls look the same. A small amount of pain that disappears quickly is ok, but if pain persists then it is bad. So it really depends on how long your shoulder hurts for, IMHO.
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« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2007, 12:00:49 PM »

so basically i'm just starting parkour. and i figured that rolls and landing would be the best way to start. so at first my rolls sucked, but now their coming along pretty well. i can jump off low heights into a roll blah blah. so now my right shoulder is pretty sore. its probably normal since im just starting, but is their something i could be doing wrong?

if your just starting parkour you shouldnt be jumping off any heights untill your joints/form/muscels are ready so if there is pain then you should go back to doing rolls while kneeling.
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« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2007, 02:07:42 PM »

1)WOW, Ozzi, you just keep cranking out awsome tutorials like a machine. If everyone like your tuts. as much as I do your karma would look something like this-  +23987/however much you have been smited

2)I tried to roll on concrete once and i hurt like crap so i stoped and gonna vid. Myself when i can.

3)Learn to roll on concerete properly before you try drops-TRUST ME CONCRETE IS UNFORGIVING AND HARDER THAN YOUR HEAD
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« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2007, 03:06:46 PM »

Thanks man. yeah video yourself so we can all help you..

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« Reply #20 on: December 25, 2007, 12:20:17 AM »

I keep trying them, but something still feels a little bit off. I have about a minute of me practicing it that I decided to upload. I mumble to myself about how bad I thought the first roll was. Whoops.

If any of you want to check it out, it's here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=oe4AuYjUIPw

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« Reply #21 on: December 25, 2007, 11:45:23 AM »

Hey bro, the rolling looks good, but the starting and ending position need to be fixed. Yous right knee is up, so you should be rooling on your right shoulder. If you feel more comfortable rollong on your left shoulder then lift your left knee and kneel on your right. Same thing when you finish, your left left should be in front on your right leg. Watch my tutorial again... try to repeat what you see in there.
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« Reply #22 on: December 25, 2007, 12:18:31 PM »

1)WOW, Ozzi, you just keep cranking out awsome tutorials like a machine. If everyone like your tuts. as much as I do your karma would look something like this-  +23987/however much you have been smited

2)I tried to roll on concrete once and i hurt like crap so i stoped and gonna vid. Myself when i can.

3)Learn to roll on concerete properly before you try drops-TRUST ME CONCRETE IS UNFORGIVING AND HARDER THAN YOUR HEAD

Karma isn't really important. After you've been active on the boards for over a month you start to recognize who everyone is and what they're personality is like and suddenly karma loses it's meaning.
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« Reply #23 on: December 25, 2007, 10:26:06 PM »

Zxmbies: The rolls are pretty good overall, I just have a couple suggestions. There is really no point in putting your left leg out when you start your roll, because if you put your foot out before a roll while doing parkour, that defeats the purpose of a roll. They are meant to dissipate force, and once you take a step the force is all gone, so there is no benefit. Practice landing on two feet and then going into a roll, with no pause between landing and rolling(or only a very, very small pause...think milliseconds).

Someone else can read this and see if this suggestion is right, cause I don't really know from the video if this is what he is doing. It seems like, after you make first contact with your shoulder, you kind of land straight on the ground with your back, as opposed to rolling into it. This hurts your flow, and it is prolly more painful than normal rolls. So really try and imagine the roll where you never lose contact with the ground, but the contact you have is short and only one point of your body touches at one time. That sounds a little weird, but I'm basically saying have better flow.
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« Reply #24 on: December 25, 2007, 10:44:38 PM »

Zxmbies: The rolls are pretty good overall, I just have a couple suggestions. There is really no point in putting your left leg out when you start your roll, because if you put your foot out before a roll while doing parkour, that defeats the purpose of a roll. They are meant to dissipate force, and once you take a step the force is all gone, so there is no benefit. Practice landing on two feet and then going into a roll, with no pause between landing and rolling(or only a very, very small pause...think milliseconds).

Someone else can read this and see if this suggestion is right, cause I don't really know from the video if this is what he is doing. It seems like, after you make first contact with your shoulder, you kind of land straight on the ground with your back, as opposed to rolling into it. This hurts your flow, and it is prolly more painful than normal rolls. So really try and imagine the roll where you never lose contact with the ground, but the contact you have is short and only one point of your body touches at one time. That sounds a little weird, but I'm basically saying have better flow.

In regards to the legs yes you are right. As Ozzi said you should be rolling on the same leg you have up. However when considering a new traceur always encourage baby steps first. Which is to say, Zxmbies should look forward to practicing on two feet soon. However for the moment it is obvious he still needs to learn the basics on the ground plane before moving up.
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« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2007, 12:50:50 PM »

In regards to the legs yes you are right. As Ozzi said you should be rolling on the same leg you have up. However when considering a new traceur always encourage baby steps first. Which is to say, Zxmbies should look forward to practicing on two feet soon. However for the moment it is obvious he still needs to learn the basics on the ground plane before moving up.

Tis true. Just make sure you can unlearn the one-foot-forward, before you start two-footed rolls. Cause if you can't, you will basically have to start over again.
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« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2007, 02:54:45 PM »

 I dont think you need to "unlearn" the starting position you just gotta be able to transition, knowing both wil be more helpfull than knowing one.
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« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2007, 03:33:11 PM »

Thanks for all your help guys. The rolls are coming along great. They're becoming near painless except for one thing. Let's say I'm doing a right shoulder to left hip roll. When I come through the roll, my lower left leg slams into the ground. Now I've seen M2's tutorial on rolls too, so thankfully I haven't shattered my ankle, but I feel like if my ankle were where my left leg foreleg was, it would get messed up. Basically, my left leg comes down hard, not smooth. I don't know how to stop that from happening so... any tips?
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« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2007, 03:43:27 PM »

tuck it in more, you have it straight out, keep it tucked as you roll.
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« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2007, 05:32:30 AM »

did anyone eelse mention that instead of following the perfect form ozzi demonstrates in his tut i.e. from shoulder to opposite hip, he's coming out of the rool with both hips down.  this can put a lot of strain on the spine because it naturally curves back in that area.
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