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« Reply #60 on: May 15, 2008, 03:55:10 PM » |
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Hey everyone, not sure if i'm hijacking the thread or not but i'm having some roll pain in my shoulder:  the part in red is where it hurts. My roll is smooth and most of the time correct(roll from shoulder to hip) but i guess i must be hitting my shoulder on the way into it. I can try to describe to you how i roll but i'm not very good and describing things but basically i get down into position put my left hand where its supposed to go then i push my self forward while my right arm doesnt even touch the ground instead it sort of goes to my left knee thus curling my up to a ball. Anyone else experience this pain?
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« Reply #61 on: May 16, 2008, 03:58:32 AM » |
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You need to use your hands more to absorb the impact that would otherwise (or in this case, is) being taken by the shoulder. The hands are used as a temporary axis of rotation so you can roll over far enough so that the first part of your shoulder that touches is the back, and that you are rolling along it (aka, you're not coming down on it).
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« Reply #62 on: May 18, 2008, 09:37:02 PM » |
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You need to use your hands more to absorb the impact that would otherwise (or in this case, is) being taken by the shoulder. The hands are used as a temporary axis of rotation so you can roll over far enough so that the first part of your shoulder that touches is the back, and that you are rolling along it (aka, you're not coming down on it).
ah yeah thats what i thought too, i guess i just need to roll more before my shoulder touches the ground. thanks alot
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« Reply #63 on: May 22, 2008, 06:05:56 PM » |
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I had that same problem but its basically gona away. What i did was instead of landing with both palms on the ground i started not letting the hand of the sholder i was gona roll over it lets me rotate a little more and my rolls are more fluid and im not ramming my sholder as much. Im sorry im bad at explaining just basically try to rotate faster and get onto your back sooner
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« Reply #64 on: May 22, 2008, 11:52:39 PM » |
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hmm, i think i might have fixed it actually. The way i do it is the scoop technique seen here: http://www.americanparkour.com/content/view/264/305/On the third picture one will notice how his right arm is scooping under his chest toward the other leg. I do that but see how his palm is up facing his chest? Well, i didn't do it that way, my palm always faced the ground. It may be my mind tricking me or what, but once i faced my palm up to my chest i haven't had any more problems (ive only done it twice however so we'll see)
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« Reply #65 on: May 30, 2008, 11:00:30 AM » |
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I have a similar problem, but its not really pain, just discomfort from the compression. Im not sure if that is also bad or not.
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« Reply #66 on: June 09, 2008, 10:07:38 PM » |
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Yeah, I'm hurting in the same spot. I have a feeling it involves the unusual pressure that is suddenly placed on a mostly-unused muscle group. With time, I'd venture a guess and say that the muscles in the shoulder will strengthen to a point of painless resistance.
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« Reply #67 on: June 15, 2008, 12:58:31 PM » |
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rolls should not hurt if you are doing them right. I find it helpfull to roll on more of the side of your back like on your shoulder. That way you will not get hurt even if you mess up the landing.
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« Reply #68 on: June 16, 2008, 05:17:32 AM » |
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Iv completely ditched the method of rolling from one shoulder to the opposite hip in favor of rolling more directly down your back, as shown on the tutorials page.
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« Reply #69 on: June 30, 2008, 03:07:53 PM » |
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Does anyone have an idea of what I'm doing wrong if my right shoulder and middle of my back hurt when I roll (it's not discomfort, it's pain) I roll right shoulder to left hip, and am pretty sure I'm rolling that diagonal path along my back, but no matter what those two spots always hurt. My spine sticks out quite a bit more than it should so that might explain the mid-back pain, but I'm not sure why my shoulder always hurts, although I think it might be that it hurts more when I stand and roll instead of rolling from knees (as in Ozzi's tut) Thanks for the help  -David
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« Reply #70 on: July 02, 2008, 02:29:31 PM » |
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Does anyone have an idea of what I'm doing wrong if my right shoulder and middle of my back hurt when I roll (it's not discomfort, it's pain) I roll right shoulder to left hip, and am pretty sure I'm rolling that diagonal path along my back, but no matter what those two spots always hurt. My spine sticks out quite a bit more than it should so that might explain the mid-back pain, but I'm not sure why my shoulder always hurts, although I think it might be that it hurts more when I stand and roll instead of rolling from knees (as in Ozzi's tut) Thanks for the help  -David You are taking too much initial impact with your upper body, if your shoulder and back hurt, but not your hip. You need to use your arms more to take the force, so that by the time your shoulder touches, there's hardly any impact going on, just a transfer of momentum. Extending your legs and 'diving' forward a little, like in Levi's tutorial might also help you spread it more evenly outward.
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« Reply #71 on: July 02, 2008, 02:31:21 PM » |
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Is it completely natural for your left hip and right shoulder to hurt slightly after doing a roll? It's been happening for quite awhile, but other than that, the roll feels completely fine.
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« Reply #72 on: July 16, 2008, 08:32:03 AM » |
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U WERE PROBABLY DOING A GYMNASTICS ROLL. I DO A MARTIAL ARTS ROLL WHICH IS ROLLING ON UR SHOULDER. TRY LEARNING AN M.A. ROLL.
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« Reply #73 on: July 16, 2008, 02:20:13 PM » |
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dude, where those capital letters warranted or anything? I certainly don't think so...
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« Reply #74 on: July 17, 2008, 01:12:41 AM » |
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We all basically do martial arts roll, Monkey, but thanks.
Brandon, it's common, but not good, especially on cement. Keep on drilling them, work on making your body shape more round, and play around with the position of where your shoulder touches and hip pushes away. Over a couple of years I have tweaked my roll so that I can land 8 feet on cement and not feel a thing (most of the time, there's always that bad one every so often). Once you find a roll that feels the best, drill it over and over so it becomes muscle memory. But try your best to get rid of that discomfort. Over time it'll start to not be good.
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