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« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2009, 07:40:09 PM »
Quote from: Taylor Lovell on October 16, 2009, 07:13:51 PM
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I am simply posting a statistic. I wasn't saying that he or anyone else would train that way. Also, I don't normally do situps as they are quite useless. Pretty much the only time I do them is at school for P.E.

By you saying that situps are "useless", I am now done.

And what good are crunches then?

Quote from: Chris Salvato on September 25, 2009, 08:46:11 AM
Why on earth are you guys doing crunches?  What are you expecting them to achieve?

Quote from: zayn on September 25, 2009, 08:49:29 AM
i dont do them they dont help me and my body.

The list of useless crunch quotes goes on and on.
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« Reply #31 on: October 16, 2009, 07:50:38 PM »
Quote from: Taylor Lovell on October 16, 2009, 04:51:51 PM
I know of NO ONE, who trains hourly in the way that you are thinking, and regardess 2000 is a lot of work, so either take off the internet badass hat, or post up a video of you performing the amount of situps that you would deem "a lot".

Lots of people work out hourly...that is actually how the work record for pullups was set.

Also, it is a very common training method that we push on people here called "greasing the groove."

Quote from: Taylor Lovell on October 16, 2009, 07:13:51 PM
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I am simply posting a statistic. I wasn't saying that he or anyone else would train that way. Also, I don't normally do situps as they are quite useless. Pretty much the only time I do them is at school for P.E.

By you saying that situps are "useless", I am now done.

Situps are pretty useless for athletic performance.

http://www.americanparkour.com/smf/index.php?topic=19438.msg230608#msg230608

There are other studies that prove this too -- but I'm not going to waste any more time looking for them Tongue
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« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2009, 09:02:01 PM »
Quote from: Chris Salvato on October 16, 2009, 07:50:38 PM
Quote from: Taylor Lovell on October 16, 2009, 04:51:51 PM
I know of NO ONE, who trains hourly in the way that you are thinking, and regardess 2000 is a lot of work, so either take off the internet badass hat, or post up a video of you performing the amount of situps that you would deem "a lot".

Lots of people work out hourly...that is actually how the work record for pullups was set.

Also, it is a very common training method that we push on people here called "greasing the groove."

Quote from: Taylor Lovell on October 16, 2009, 07:13:51 PM
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I am simply posting a statistic. I wasn't saying that he or anyone else would train that way. Also, I don't normally do situps as they are quite useless. Pretty much the only time I do them is at school for P.E.

By you saying that situps are "useless", I am now done.

Situps are pretty useless for athletic performance.

http://www.americanparkour.com/smf/index.php?topic=19438.msg230608#msg230608

There are other studies that prove this too -- but I'm not going to waste any more time looking for them Tongue

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« Reply #33 on: October 17, 2009, 01:15:52 AM »
yes but crunches help you achive that ultimate chick magnet of EIGHT PACK ABS!!!!!!

please note i only said help
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« Reply #34 on: October 17, 2009, 06:37:38 AM »
Quote from: Finis on October 17, 2009, 01:15:52 AM
yes but crunches help you achive that ultimate chick magnet of EIGHT PACK ABS!!!!!!

please note i only said help

But they don't.

Ab definition, whether you have a two-pack, four-pack, six-pack, eight-pack, ten-pack, or just a slab of muscle over your abdomen, is based entirely on genetics.

Visibility of said abs is controlled almost entirely by how much fat you carry over them.

Therefore the recipe for good looking 6/8-pack abs is good genetics and low BF%.

Crunches and situps, and what else have you do nothing. At least with heavy lifts and gymnastic skills you're building good core strength, and not just doing what can be equated to making your biceps push.
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« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2009, 06:24:03 PM »
Quote from: Spencer B on October 17, 2009, 06:37:38 AM
But they don't.

Ab definition, whether you have a two-pack, four-pack, six-pack, eight-pack, ten-pack, or just a slab of muscle over your abdomen, is based entirely on genetics.

Visibility of said abs is controlled almost entirely by how much fat you carry over them.

Therefore the recipe for good looking 6/8-pack abs is good genetics and low BF%.

Crunches and situps, and what else have you do nothing. At least with heavy lifts and gymnastic skills you're building good core strength, and not just doing what can be equated to making your biceps push.


+1. I think I did a crunch once in gymnastics. Or maybe I was just sitting up, I don't remember. If you are compelled to do some type of contraction to train your abs. Go grab the nearest chain link fence, and touch your feet to the fence over your head. Hanging leg raises will help with your back tucks, etc. If you want to step it up a notch, make those full ROM leg raises, then you'll be doing something productive.
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