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« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2006, 06:04:31 PM » |
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.... Congrats to Andi for not flying off the handle on that F-David Belle comment, I was expecting some serious havok after reading that post! Heh, it's funny that you would start this post Mr. Nease. The reason why we have so many "What is Parkour" posts, is because of people like you, who don't do any research before hand and come on to a forum spouting a bunch of things that they don't know anything about. Plain and simple.
"why does it matter what he adheres to, and who does it matter too?"
You're kidding right? For the same reason people adhere to what the N.B.A says basketball is! For the same reason that people adhere to what Morhei Ueshiba says Aikido is! For the same reason that people adhere to the definiton of gravity!
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« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2006, 10:04:43 PM » |
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Now I now that I'm new to Parkour in a sense, but it seems to me that both traditional Parkour and the "tricks" should be able to coincide. I mean, if a new "flashier" move is developed that flows with the terrain and seems to fit with what you would do naturally, isn't it fine to utilize it when conditions call for it. If you take basketball for example, the creator, James Naismith probably did not intend for it to evolve into the "flashy" empire it is today, but among all that change, is it not still basketball? I could be way off base here, but i still think that if you use the "tricks", not to show off, but to make a fluid transition from one thing to the next, then it is fine.
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« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2006, 10:35:16 PM » |
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Hmpf, I think newer people are getting too caught up with the concept of "flow". If you would, ignore that entire concept, and think about this: Parkour was created with the thought in mind, that those that learn and become proficient in Parkour become useful. A tracuer has the ability to get places faster, more effectively than most anyone else. Meaning, if a mass murderer was headed to your house, from the same location as you, to kill your little sister (for the sake of the argument) you would be able to get to your sister first, thus being able to save her life. Now, with that in mind, with your little sister's life on the line, you want to flip? Okay, theoretically, yes, any movement could be Parkour, because Parkour is defined not by the movements but by intent and effective-ness but, is it REALLY worth it to argue that 1 time in 14 billion, a split vault would save your sister faster than a speed vault? THAT is what David Belle created. A way to SAVE LIVES. Do you (not directed at you smilez  ) really want to tarnish that just so that you can simply show off? So that you can just jump around and have fun? Hey, to each their own, but please don't try to slow the rest of us, that want to pass on PARKOUR, down. |
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« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2006, 11:11:48 PM » |
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I didnt mean to step on anyones toes there, and yes if my sister was going to be killed i also would run balls-to-the-wall home. I just thought that there could be some sort of happy medium between the two "styles".
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« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2006, 11:34:11 PM » |
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Haha, See I think alot of people get hung up thinking that "purists" condemn any activity that isn't effiecent. We don't. If you want to do flips or flashy stuff or whatever, please, by all means, proceed; you won't hear complaining from us. As long as you don't call it Parkour, simply because it is not. It would be like me trying to convince everyone to refer to Cars as bicycles because I never learned the word for car. Just because I'm ignorant doesn't mean that everyone else should have to bow to what I say.... I hope that made sense...
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« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2006, 11:34:58 PM » |
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well, it is a happy medium between styles if its what YOU like to do, but it isnt parkour. like Ace said, its not about flow. Flow is the aftermath from being efficient. if you work on making the run efficient, then it will naturally look 'floaty' and smooth... that is where the flow comes in. People comming in and focussing on the finished product with completely overlook the steps in getting there. And the steps in getting there is what we call parkour. Got me?  EDIT: oop you got it before me, good one |
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« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2006, 11:55:44 PM » |
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Congrats to Andi for not flying off the handle on that F-David Belle comment, I was expecting some serious havok after reading that post! i had gear on AIM and said i have read this post and that he can prepare to ban me coz im gonna flame that son of a bitch to death but then he couldnt leave the post like that he would have had to delete it (i would have accepted to be banned as long as he wouldnt have deleted the post) so i decided to just show this person that to me (and to any real traceur lol) he is worth less than the 3 week old particle of dogshit in the profile of the sole of my shoe |
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« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2006, 02:05:47 AM » |
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Hmpf, I think newer people are getting too caught up with the concept of "flow".
Not to mention all the other words... Mindset Individuality Speed Fluidity Style etc. lol. I will sit back and watch more. |
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« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2006, 10:15:19 AM » |
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I understand completely, and i respect both the flashy style, or whatever you would call it and Parkour. As for "flow", i guess i should have chosen my words more carefully, and i agree with you Skipper & trACEur. When i said flow, i was thinking of the final product and mindlessly looked over the finer steps of achieving flow which is efficiency among other things(if that makes sense ) For the record, I agree with both of you and in the future i will look further into the topic and make sure i know what i'm saying before i say it  BTW: trACEur, nice analogy between the car and bike, i understood completely |
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« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2006, 10:39:56 AM » |
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Hmpf, I think newer people are getting too caught up with the concept of "flow".
Not to mention all the other words...
Mindset
Individuality
Speed
Fluidity
Style
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lol.
I will sit back and watch more.
I myself wouldn't say that were caught up with these words but more confused about them. Were not conflicting over them just because, we are because some of us are confused with the concept of them. Basically I am saying that if we didn't want to know then we wouldn't argue/debate, although even I would say the we got a bit out of hand with this whole thing although I think it is good to clear this up but if we ever come to the perfect conclusion then sticky or just advertise that we have so that we don't get on each others bad sides about things like this topic and other similar ones. BTW: I agree with both of you and in the future i will look further into the topic and make sure i know what I'm saying before i say it
This is a good idea, I know this all was a bit off the topic but it would be nice to see a conclusion to this problem that has not yet been concluded. I read all the posts and was thinking that we should all think just a smidgen harder about this so it doesn't get too complicated and out of hand, not that it is just yet. and.. don't say F to the best G, or to anyone else that even just wants to show what they think please. he is worth less than the 3 week old particle of dogshit in the profile of the sole of my shoe even though you had a good attitude about this, this in my opinion is what ruined UF and this topic/thread (thats why I stopped posting ). oops it all quoted even though I didn't put brackets around the parts I didn't want to  . |
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« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2006, 12:44:35 PM » |
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I believe words are what cause confusion in parkour. Words are only representation of actuality. When someone says 'parkour' some people who have just seen a video sees huge roof jumps and flips and amazing things. Sure they're amazing but they are not 'parkour'. another confusing word is 'flow'. people hear this and they think it's just linking seperate moves together...but its a little more than that (in my opinion) its about not thinking about what you're going to do next. Like you naturally vault or roll without realizing what you're doing. sort of like a sub concious thing. If i'm wrong about this please inform me. But this is what i've gathered in my 4 months of actual parkour and 2 months of sprained ankle, bruised hand unable to pk so i'm on a forum.
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I am the Egyptian Monkey  things people have called parkour 1) popcorn 2) park whore 3) par four 4) pa coop |
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« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2006, 09:25:47 AM » |
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Yeah sounds good to me besides words don't actually start the confusion most of the time, the confusion usually creates and these words are used to describe the confusion in some sense. |
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« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2006, 04:49:17 PM » |
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Eric, those are probably the wisest words on this thread, but hey-- they're just representations of actuality.
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« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2006, 06:40:46 PM » |
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Eric, those are probably the wisest words on this thread, but hey-- they're just representations of actuality.
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