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« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2006, 06:21:49 PM » |
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SO is a kong to a precision with a roll.  when you land with a roll you do that for a purpose. ok, i do not expect someone of your low education about parkour to know what a roll is actually there for and the technique behind it, but then dont talk about it if youre not competant. cu |
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« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2006, 06:39:05 PM » |
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oil painting is an art form. you can express yourself in it.
if you use crayons you arent oil painting. if you are using crayons and oil paints, you still arent oil painting.
that doesnt mean that crayons and oil paints cant be used together to create art. that art is different than oil painting though. its oil painting and crayons.
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keep it free and true  Over Under OUTkrew is OUTgoing Through |
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« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2006, 07:42:46 PM » |
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Good analogy  , I love analogies  |
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 Look, a Cheetah! "they will soar upon wings like eagles" |
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« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2006, 10:11:44 PM » |
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LOL good one! |
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« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2006, 10:51:58 PM » |
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Good topic cheetah (b'_')b. When training i will sometimes practice runs and sometimes i will drill one thing. One of the ways to actually practice "true" parkour at a jam is to play tag since you are trying to escape the person who is "it". I will admit that i have practiced the handspring and stuff but thats just to sorta sharpen my skills.
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« Reply #35 on: January 20, 2006, 07:35:00 AM » |
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Very true. I love Pk Tag. That game really really gets you in tune with the skils that your body uses to accomplish a "threatning situation." Which Makes me want to start a new topic...see ya there.
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« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2006, 06:10:01 PM » |
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Agreed. I was contemplating this earlier today, and realized that some spins and flips should be considered parkour. There's strict parkour, with specific techniques used for efficiency, but I think Parkour is uniquely shaped for each runner. If doing a spin or a flip off a wall or a railing is difficult for you, or fun for you, and you simply want to do it, I don't think that should be deemed as non-Parkour. If Parkour means 'obstacle course' (however loosely) then it's not neccessarily about overcoming things efficiently, but simply overcoming them--in the manner of your choosing--and therefore there shouldn't be a "style vs. pure" discrepency. Or something like that...
Discuss?
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« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2006, 06:57:26 PM » |
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Parkour does not mean obstacle course, obstacle course can be treated as rough translation of parcours du combat not parkour. Parkour is the art/discipline of swiftly efficiently overcoming obstacle in a course form one point to another using only the abilities of human body if movement doesn't help you with that goal its not parkour.
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« Reply #38 on: January 20, 2006, 08:03:59 PM » |
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But say i want to get over a rail, and i frontflip over it. Now i haven't switched my direction and i have still gotten over the obstacle. So shouldn't it still be parkour? The only things that shouldn't be considered parkour in my opinion is the backflip and gainer. With a front flip you are basically jumping over the rail except your body is turning foward, and the handspring in my opinion is a type of vault
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« Reply #39 on: January 20, 2006, 08:35:35 PM » |
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The front flip may get you over the rail but in doing so has it fufilled the goals of speed and efficiency. A front flip can be very fast when executed correctly but it requires more energy more technique and adds an element of danger that is unneccesary there is no point in doing a front flip when a simple vault will do. To understand what is parkour think about what you would do in an emergency situation say you saw someone mugging your mom would you vault that rail or flip it?
As for handsprings sure you can consider it a vault but it has no more logical use in parkour, the rocket vaults, splits vaults, multiple twisting vaults or anything of that ilk.
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« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2006, 09:27:42 PM » |
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The front flip may get you over the rail but in doing so has it fufilled the goals of speed and efficiency. A front flip can be very fast when executed correctly but it requires more energy more technique and adds an element of danger that is unneccesary there is no point in doing a front flip when a simple vault will do. To understand what is parkour think about what you would do in an emergency situation say you saw someone mugging your mom would you vault that rail or flip it?
Good point. I sometimes forget that parkour isn't just getting from A to B but getting there in an efficently way for escape or another case of emergency. |
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« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2006, 09:53:50 PM » |
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Thanks the thing is you have train with that mindset to understand parkour. Untill you actually talk that mindset into your training is not really parkour, even if you only do efficient moves. Its the mindset that defines the art. It took me a while to go from accepting the defination of parkout to actually understanding. I am gymnast and my first posts on parkour boards were very much like what you just said.
It is of course fine if you perfer to practive movement without parkours mindset I admire tricking yamakasi/freerunning as much as the next guy, but at least try to train that way for awhile so you can understand why traceurs think the way they do.
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« Reply #42 on: January 20, 2006, 09:58:46 PM » |
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Just remember if you are tying to justify "parkour" It probebly isnt parkour. Just remember 100% effeciency and you should be ok. Some would argue a diveing front flip might be more efficient although keep that to your self because your not going to win an arguement about it. What you were explaining was FreeStyle Parkour.
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« Reply #43 on: January 20, 2006, 10:32:59 PM » |
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I know it would be considered freestyle i was just trying to see why.
Although i have been into parkour for about 5 months only recently since i started visiting these forums have i gotten a better understanding of it. So for that i give evryone a thumbs up (b'_')b.
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« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2006, 10:51:06 AM » |
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Expressing yourself through parkour: okay you don't express yourself...but more like you have an emotional discharge through parkour. For example, when i'm really angry i go out and do some pk. And when i'm out there i'm like an animal. it's like i reach a new level when the emotion plays into it. Also when i'm stressed i just forget about everything when i'm out doin parkour...which may be a bad thing cuz i'll forget to do a big project when its due the next day  . haha but anyway parkour is a great way to release your emotions in a good way. |
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I am the Egyptian Monkey  things people have called parkour 1) popcorn 2) park whore 3) par four 4) pa coop |
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