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You don't have disrespect parkour to move however you want, that freedom is naturally yours. I doubt very many of us practice parkour as our only atheletic activity, I do gymnastics martial arts, tricking and anything else that catches my fancy. Will I mix them up some times sure, however when I enjoy and activity I try to understand it and study it and respect were it comes from instead of trying to forcing it to be whatever I want it to be.
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« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2006, 02:43:27 PM » |
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Are you sure you are not a Closet FreeStyliest? Sure I may enjoy doing "freestyle", but I also enjoy doing parkour. In fact I probably enjoy doing parkour more becasue whenever I attempt to do "freestyle" I always hurt myself in some way. In parkour you can still hurt yourself, but you are much less prone to doing it, this is a big thing for me because I'm also a track running fanatic and I really don't want to get hurt (since that could ruin my track running "career"  . Plus the fact that the only real "freestyle" move I can do is a partial wall spin. Parkour has more practical use and is good for strengthening the muscles I use in track (since you run in it as well) so for now I'm gonna stick with parkour, with only a few "goofy" little things added in every once and a while. And if I do ever learn to flip I'll just do it when I'm trying to "show off".  |
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Hey man, thats why we keep you around, it's the attitude. Skills come and go, but a guy with the right attitude, well if I had a good metaphor it would go here. And you know what you just said, wait lets see if I can get this quote thing to work... This is kinda off topic but when I found parkour it fit my life like a glove, I feel like this is what I was born to do . yeah there we go, Every great traceur I've known has said something similar, thats a clear sign you're gonna be great After all, your hops already rival mine on those wall runs. |
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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2006, 05:20:48 PM » |
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Now see this is what I'm talking about, you guys are probably the most supportive pk group ever! It's so much fun to work with such a great group of guys. Thanks for all of the support you guys give, I think that our whole group has pretty awesome attitudes.  |
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« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2006, 05:27:29 PM » |
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Like i just learned in my really fun health class  a good attitude helps give a person better health! |
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« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2006, 05:29:07 PM » |
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Cheetah, thank you for posting an honest question with an open mind and a good attitude. I'm sure you'll have a long and productive Parkour career! |
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« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2006, 05:30:59 PM » |
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Like i just learned in my really fun health class a good attitude helps give a person better health! I heard that so does a normal sleep scheadule, i guess i have to stop with the 2 in the morning posts. lol |
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« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2006, 12:58:36 AM » |
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Man i sure hope theres room for style. I do parkour to express myself, I consider it an art. Theres a heavy difference between art and science, if theres no room for style, its a science.
Its all well and good to say its about efficiency, but unless you literally sprint/parkour everywhere you go the reality is your doing parkour to express something about your self, so its about expression even when you are expressing "efficiency."
If its not about the fun and the experience why bother? damn. If you only want efficeincy get a damn car
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« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2006, 02:31:23 AM » |
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Man i sure hope theres room for style. I do parkour to express myself, I consider it an art. Theres a heavy difference between art and science, if theres no room for style, its a science.  THE FUNDAMENTAL OF PARKOUR IS EFFICIENCY. yes, everyone expresses his own efficiency in another way, wich is what makes it an art. we have this wall, and the other wall wich is lower, and a drop in between. the tall guy might prefer to jump over it all, the small guy saut de chat a precision (kong to precision as you might call it) and the middle guy who doesnt like saut de chats will speedvault it or whatever. different people, different movements. but - if your movement is not EFFICIENT, its not parkour. simple as. if you dont like that - then do Yamakasi, or do 3Run.. thats something where style playes an important role. all people are always complaining 'theres no room for style, i dont like that' blablabla.. if you dont like it DONT CALL WHAT YOU DO PARKOUR. there is plenty of other urban arts/sports that are close to what parkour is, but about style, etc. dont complain about parkour, you yourself chose to call what you do parkour. do yamakasi, and you wont have restrictions, and nobody will complain. its your own fault. |
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« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2006, 03:42:39 AM » |
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Well, being that we've already deduced that earlier in the thread, I have to assume that you posted just because you wanted to find a place for that picture...
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« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2006, 04:49:23 AM » |
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hm no i didnt even read the thread. your assumption is wrong since i have this picture on my server now coz i seem to need it more often on pk forums, i was just adressing the post ofthe guy
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« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2006, 10:57:19 AM » |
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Andi K- for one you are definitely not O..K... on these boards. What is wrong with your attitude really? You need to read the whole thread before you start posting. You would realize that the guy who started the post had some change in thoughts and heart! My post was more of a joke with some little meaning behind it. This is grounds for banning Andi K. M2 warned you about this. If I were a mod..which I am but only a small Texas board mod I would discontinue your Dis-service now.
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« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2006, 11:01:06 AM » |
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I think there is a touch of style added to Parkour when you choose your path of movement. What you choose varies from someone else's choice, and, according to dictionary.com style is (numbered according to definition): "1) The way in which something is said, done, expressed, or performed: a style of speech and writing.
2) The combination of distinctive features of literary or artistic expression, execution, or performance characterizing a particular person, group, school, or era.
4) A quality of imagination and individuality expressed in one's actions and tastes: does things with style."So even if a sequence of movements is deemed parkour, the traceur must act to select which movements to use, and on which path to use them. This independent selection is to accomodate your individual taste, your preferences, your "style". But that's just in a technical sense. If you try to add any sort of "style"other than a simple change of path or approach to your obstacles, and if you do not attempt to overcome your obstacles with efficiency (speed and grace), then you begin to freestyle. I can't say I know much about the battle, but there's a big controversey between authentic PK and freestyle. What I know so far is this: Parkour - Most efficient, and sometimes looks good (it's about approach and "getting there")Freestyle - Looks good, and sometimes efficient (it's about personal style and showing off)Whichever you choose to do, you need to work hard and make your own decisions. And I know I'll get this post taken apart, bit by bit. Enjoy!  -Phrag |
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« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2006, 02:29:05 PM » |
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I don't understand why so many people think that freestyle is just about showing off. That argument would hold as much weight as doing traditional parkour in front of people. I try to keep out of people's eyes as much as possible on my runs. I understand that to do a kong to precision and to finish that off with a front tuck IS a demonstration of skill, SO is a kong to a precision with a roll. I do freestyle movements like flips & spins because they are fun and challenging to me. When I do those movements with fluidity and speed, I feel that I have accomplished something and that feeling doesn't change if there was a audience or not.
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« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2006, 02:43:48 PM » |
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Youre right, freerunning encompasses more than just showing off. It all depends on the individual's drive to improve. That notion comes from when UF coined FRPK solely to have more of a "show" to sell to sponsors. Of course it doesnt apply to everyone who does is nowadays, though.
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