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« Reply #30 on: December 20, 2007, 09:06:40 AM » |
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well I’m not very flexible(I never been able to touch me toes), and the pain is about the pain of stubbing your toe. Not excruciating but a sharp pain none the less.
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« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2007, 04:01:04 PM » |
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I would avoid doing standing stretches for a while until you get more flexible. If you want to be able to touch your toes, for example, do static stretching daily (or 2x/day if you can) using seated stretches. Seated forward bend is a good one. Relax into the stretch for at least 30 seconds, then rest, and repeat. Focus on your breathing. You have to train your muscles not to panic and initiate the stretch reflex. Basically you are training the muscle that this kind of movement is safe, and you are also training the muscle to lengthen as many fibers as it can during the stretch. You have to give it time to do so. The more fibers that lengthen at a go, the more flexible you are.
If you are getting a sharp pain you are probably dropping into the stretch too fast. Get into the position slowly, and then relax and breathe until your body invites you to go further. When your body is ready, it will let you know; you will feel a slight "release" in the muscle and will just go a bit further into the stretch automatically. If you are "trying" to get flexible you will just work against yourself.
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« Reply #32 on: December 23, 2007, 08:23:45 PM » |
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sounds good thanks  |
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« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2008, 04:03:15 PM » |
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STRETCHING FOR PARKOUR
PART ONE: Introduction, Biomechanics, and a Post-Workout Stretching Program ... 3. Namaste hands. To deepen the stretch in the wrists and forearms, keep the hands pressed together, widen the chest, and lower the wrists towards the ground. You can also rotate the hands so that the fingertips are pointing out from your chest. As a percussionist, my instructor has told me that rotating your hands so your fingertips point out from your chest (horozontally) is bad for your wrists. Instead, my instructor suggested that you point your fingertips up or down with the sides of your hands touching your chest, never horozontally. Hope this pertains to parkour as well... |
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« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2008, 11:28:31 PM » |
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Interesting. I have never heard this, but as mentioned I am hardly an expert; just someone who likes to stretch. Did your instructor say why? I would be interested in hearing about this.
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« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2008, 01:33:39 PM » |
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I'm not entirely sure why...
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« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2008, 06:06:15 AM » |
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What are the yays and nays about stretching when you feel sore? Right now we have track conditioning and I'm stretching before and after and throughout the day. But I'm still getting sore (I expected this, lots of explosive movements [sprinter]), and what are the guidelines for stretching when you're sore? It's a lot harder to warm up because you want/need to rest your muscles, but at the same time, stretching helps make them feel better and (to my knowledge) recover/"un-sore" quicker. Thanks  |
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« Reply #37 on: May 02, 2008, 08:54:11 AM » |
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Awesome article Muse! Thank you.
I got a good giggle out of the Brain/Muscle conversation.
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« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2008, 06:02:20 PM » |
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I already said this is another forum but I'll say it again here. The problem is that most people do not understand the difference between flexibility and range of motion. Just being flexible is not only NOT productive, it is down right dangerous if you don't have the muscular integrity to back it up! You need to be proportionally strong in every position (this is known as range of motion) otherwise you are only flexible and this makes you physically vulnerable to injury. Don't think about stretching to improve your flexible, think of becoming more proportionally strong to improve your range of motion.
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« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2008, 06:35:36 PM » |
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I already said this is another forum but I'll say it again here. The problem is that most people do not understand the difference between flexibility and range of motion. Just being flexible is not only NOT productive, it is down right dangerous if you don't have the muscular integrity to back it up! You need to be proportionally strong in every position (this is known as range of motion) otherwise you are only flexible and this makes you physically vulnerable to injury. Don't think about stretching to improve your flexible, think of becoming more proportionally strong to improve your range of motion.
You posted it twice and I am going to correct you twice. If you feel like nitpicking semantics then you are going to be in for a small battle here... Range of motion is the minimal to maximal degree of your muscle joint to move, regardless of the force able to be produced AT that range of motionFlexibility is a subjective term that people use to describe their range of motion. Loosely speaking, functional ROM is considered FLEXIBILITY. What you MEAN to say that you want to improve FUNCTIONAL range of motion. Strictly speaking now, range of motion without function is considered CONTORTIONAs i said before, a good stretching program increases functional range of motion, that is, flexibility. A bad stretching program increases non-functional range of motion, that is, forces contortion. |
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« Reply #40 on: June 17, 2008, 11:38:39 AM » |
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Just being flexible is not only NOT productive, it is down right dangerous if you don't have the muscular integrity to back it up! You need to be proportionally strong in every position (this is known as range of motion) otherwise you are only flexible and this makes you physically vulnerable to injury.
Precisely. Which is why this stretching program is designed to be only one part of an overall parkour training program, as I mentioned in the first part of the article. I assume that most people reading this are already engaging in strengthening and conditioning work for parkour. It would be silly for people not to. |
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« Reply #41 on: June 24, 2008, 08:38:16 PM » |
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Thanks for clarifying that point muse. Great article! Keep it up.
I only realized how important stretching is during this past week with NYPK and the Ladies Clinic at Primal. If you do it properly, it can really decrease DOMS, and keep you in good shape to preform the next day. I'm now completely addicted. In fact, I'm off to stretch right now!
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« Reply #42 on: July 13, 2008, 04:39:41 PM » |
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thx muse this is just what i was looking for. i guess i am stating the obvious but would then suggest doing yoga in general as flexibilty training?
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« Reply #43 on: July 13, 2008, 08:17:02 PM » |
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thx muse this is just what i was looking for. i guess i am stating the obvious but would then suggest doing yoga in general as flexibilty training?
Ah yes yoga works wonders. I myself do it every morning and it does increase balance, flexibility and state of mind! |
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« Reply #44 on: July 15, 2008, 09:17:41 PM » |
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Yoga is great because it simultaneously works strength, balance, flexibility, and coordination, as well as mindfulness. The trick is to find the right kind (there are TONS of kinds of yoga out there) for your overall performance goals. I would also suggest working with an instructor who has a keen awareness of body alignment, and who stresses that in his/her training. If you are achieving asanas with poor alignment, you are missing a lot of benefits (at best), and hurting yourself (at worst). Furthermore, attention to proper alignment will help your overall proprioception and coordination for everything (including parkour!)
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